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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
Sat May 13, 2017, 09:31 PM May 2017

EXCLUSIVE: Sealed Indictment granted against Donald Trump [View all]

Last edited Sun May 14, 2017, 12:09 PM - Edit history (3)

ON EDIT:




By Louise Mensch and Claude Taylor

Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump.

While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trump’s impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.


NEW TWEET: This indicates a National Security case and likely Logan Act violations.




18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.


As this story has developed, it has become obvious these two threads are very much intertwined:
Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power
Flynn Intel Group associates were subpoenaed by same Grand Jury just hours before Comey was fired.

BEFORE EDIT: This explains some of the first posts, before we knew what the big news would be.


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Sounds like an interesting project. shraby May 2017 #1
Good-Its Been a slow News day Stallion May 2017 #2
Fitzmas. Itchinjim May 2017 #3
It ain't Fitzmas yet, but it ain't NOT Fitzmas yet either. JHB May 2017 #16
Is it a Saturday Night Massacre? L. Coyote May 2017 #64
Frog-marching Karl Rove out of the White House. Miles Archer May 2017 #102
Pure Fitzmas, plain and simple. COLGATE4 May 2017 #127
Real life has become such a roller coaster, I think I've become desensitized. hlthe2b May 2017 #4
...looking forward to it. Ellipsis May 2017 #5
Ooh! cwydro May 2017 #6
I know, but I'm still a dog anticipating a bone from whatever source it may come. NBachers May 2017 #7
here ya go... Ellipsis May 2017 #8
Um, no. The FISA courts don't issue indictments. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #28
...don't kill the messenger Ellipsis May 2017 #37
Louise Mensch says no issuing court specified womanofthehills May 2017 #39
Except, FISA has no authority to issue indictments.. pangaia May 2017 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author sharedvalues May 2017 #35
FISA courts do not issue indictments. COLGATE4 May 2017 #128
my understanding is that's been addressed Ellipsis May 2017 #131
Within 24 business hours nt geek tragedy May 2017 #9
Great info! Thx. Can't wait. nt R B Garr May 2017 #58
So 3 days... nt sarah FAILIN May 2017 #88
OP edited with the news: Trump sealed indictment, intended to be basis of impeachment. L. Coyote May 2017 #10
Trump himself is STILL CALLING IT "FAKE NEWS" but wanted Comey to ensure that he wasn't being anneboleyn May 2017 #118
Having to ask if you are being investigated is an admission of guilty of something. L. Coyote May 2017 #119
amazing Mensch keeps landing this huge stories when no one else in the media has any idea Takket May 2017 #11
Great to have intel informants and be a conduit for British Intel. L. Coyote May 2017 #14
Conduit for British Intel is key sharedvalues May 2017 #36
Yeah, and I like it sooo much...yay! iluvtennis May 2017 #50
LOL greytdemocrat May 2017 #61
What is all this? Goodheart May 2017 #12
Sweet irony, Trump became a Juris Doctor today. L. Coyote May 2017 #13
Omg, and can you imagine Leghorn21 May 2017 #56
Not only is that indefensible, but he is too. L. Coyote May 2017 #60
Oui oui! Why, just look how quickly he learnt allllll about "healthcare" in a matter of a couple of Leghorn21 May 2017 #67
"Who knew lawyering was so difficult?" L. Coyote May 2017 #69
"Says who?!", dammit! - hell L., things are moving fast tonight, but here's a linky to Leghorn21 May 2017 #74
This just laid an egg in LBN. ucrdem May 2017 #15
I missed linking this thread before it closed, but the Mensch trolls were there right away. L. Coyote May 2017 #17
Well, it's Saturday night, so I'm guessing at some point they'll call it a prank ucrdem May 2017 #22
Botnets give me shade Comrade Donald May 2017 #103
I just posted the Raw Story article there. Rec it up :-) L. Coyote May 2017 #54
Locking. Well, Raw Story isn't good enough for DU, I guess. L. Coyote May 2017 #62
It's back and I recced it up. ucrdem May 2017 #68
Well, I wonder what happened. Maybe they've had a Raw Story or two before! L. Coyote May 2017 #71
WHY THE HELL was that thread locked? DUers link to RawStory all the time. The Mensch trolls are out! anneboleyn May 2017 #117
24 business hours oberliner May 2017 #18
Time for me to take a break from Mensch/Taylor Freethinker65 May 2017 #19
I just switched to them after watching Woodward and Bernstein for forty years. L. Coyote May 2017 #21
DU will be enough. Do not need to follow them on twitter tho Freethinker65 May 2017 #26
More tweets from Mensch and Taylor L. Coyote May 2017 #20
Hopefully something will come of this soon to confirm or refute... renegade000 May 2017 #23
This doesn't sound plausible. Is this a prank or fake news???? nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #24
More posts on what may be the biggest story ever to break on Twitter: L. Coyote May 2017 #25
Unless this is confirmed I wont believe it as sources have been wrong in the past. nt cstanleytech May 2017 #27
Their sources have been good in the past, so I'd be more positive about this. L. Coyote May 2017 #32
Even the best journalists get it wrong, sometimes on accident and sometimes its done to take them cstanleytech May 2017 #38
FISA courts don't issue indictments, folks. Their power is limited to The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #30
FISA court can convene a grand jury who can issue a true bill. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #31
I can find no authority in the FISA act that says FISA courts The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #48
It didn't sound plausible, anyway. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #84
Grand juries do. L. Coyote May 2017 #33
No it can't jberryhill May 2017 #63
I agree caution is in order. renegade000 May 2017 #34
As long as he is President and Congress refuses to impeach would any indictment even do any good cstanleytech May 2017 #42
You're right about that. renegade000 May 2017 #45
I think you could have video tape proof of him selling the nuclear codes to Russia and the Repugants cstanleytech May 2017 #47
Well I agree with people doing what they can locally being of prime importance... renegade000 May 2017 #51
Aye that is their Achilles heel at this moment providing its properly exploited. cstanleytech May 2017 #53
There are specific, detailed rules governing the procedures for federal grand juries. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #57
Lack of legal authority to do so. This story is absolutely false. Yo_Mama May 2017 #59
Article III jberryhill May 2017 #65
Thanks, that's what I was looking for. n/t renegade000 May 2017 #70
Exactly! bench scientist May 2017 #82
Mensch did not mention a specific court womanofthehills May 2017 #40
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow May 2017 #41
Fool me once, shame on Fitzmas, fool me twice Fiendish Thingy May 2017 #43
+1 Erick the Read May 2017 #52
+2 Would that it would be true spiderpig May 2017 #73
I think Louise and Claude are on their 3rd bottle of wine tonight BannonsLiver May 2017 #83
Celebrating the first Comey Day/Saturday Night Massacre L. Coyote May 2017 #90
More tweets: L. Coyote May 2017 #44
Keith Olbermann tweet: L. Coyote May 2017 #46
The story is starting to propagate, retweets 10K for Taylor and Mensch. L. Coyote May 2017 #49
Sounds too good to be true nycbos May 2017 #55
Please confirm from a reliable source before I start my happy dance spiderpig May 2017 #66
Wrong forum, please repost. tritsofme May 2017 #72
Clearly FISA convened grand jury which issued indictment. Happy Comey Day. L. Coyote May 2017 #75
Is Comey Day going to be one of those ones which is always Monday? jberryhill May 2017 #76
RICO enid602 May 2017 #77
If the grand jury was conveyed by the FISA court, it is likely a NatSec case. L. Coyote May 2017 #80
I wish this to be true more than anything I have ever wished for in my life Quixote1818 May 2017 #78
If the FBI wanted to really get rid of Trump Tiggeroshii May 2017 #79
NOT having citizen-grand juries is the whole POINT of the FISC courts Nevernose May 2017 #81
This sounds like O'keefe trying to punk everybody! mfcorey1 May 2017 #85
Definition of "sealed indictment" for anyone who doesn't understand (like me)... lamp_shade May 2017 #86
What a crock of shit Foamfollower May 2017 #87
Have you forgotten the FBI Directoer James Comey verified her earlier exclusive reporting. L. Coyote May 2017 #89
He did no such thing! Foamfollower May 2017 #95
4UR reading pleasure: Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference L. Coyote May 2017 #97
Thank you for confirming what I said! Foamfollower May 2017 #98
Denial. L. Coyote May 2017 #99
Would this indictment in some way force Congress to act? L. Coyote May 2017 #91
Manafort and Flynn, others under sealed indictment. L. Coyote May 2017 #92
"within next hour." cwydro May 2017 #93
I just re-edited the OP to clarify. Plus the big new news is in the OP: Manafort and Flynn indicted L. Coyote May 2017 #94
They've been indicted? cwydro May 2017 #110
Subpoenas issued for Flynn associates by the Grand Jury indicting Trump, Manafort, Flynn, and others L. Coyote May 2017 #111
We all want (desperately) for this to be true... cwydro May 2017 #112
If Trump had released his taxes and was not hiding his collusions we would not need speculation. Madam45for2923 May 2017 #96
Dana Boente is leading the Russia probe, although the decision to prosecute falls with Rosenstein. L. Coyote May 2017 #100
Now we know why Obama tried to get rid of Dana Boente PubliusEnigma May 2017 #101
How soon did Trump start obstructing justice? L. Coyote May 2017 #104
Flynn-associate subpoenas were issued by Dana Boente, EDVA US Atty who succeeded Yates L. Coyote May 2017 #105
Louise Mensch is becoming the left's Alex Jones. beaglelover May 2017 #106
Uh, no. GliderGuider May 2017 #124
How long did you hold your breath after Mensch's pre-election FISA report. L. Coyote May 2017 #126
Empty Wheel weights in on Special Counsel: Boente Is the Best Short Term Solution. L. Coyote May 2017 #107
Yawn.... WoonTars May 2017 #108
"No one is above the law, not a high public official, not even the highest public official." Boente L. Coyote May 2017 #109
Trump is NOT happy with Mensch and Taylor. Oh well. L. Coyote May 2017 #113
Source: upwards of 70 individuals/entities targeted for indictment. L. Coyote May 2017 #114
I'm getting whiplash reading about Dana Boente's role in this onenote May 2017 #115
I read a theory that Obama's firing of Boente might have been a head fake. GliderGuider May 2017 #125
At end of string is money laundering, RICO, FARA, Obstruction, Conspiracy ... just getting started. L. Coyote May 2017 #116
RICO case against ***the entire GOP*** Reince Priebus is on tape, sources say L. Coyote May 2017 #120
Lol yeah right. 😂 Oneironaut May 2017 #121
Broadsword_Six is swinging for the fence. GliderGuider May 2017 #122
What does it even mean to say a RICO case is being brought against the "entire" GOP? onenote May 2017 #129
dKos diary: About that Trump indictment story... By claireducky L. Coyote May 2017 #123
I wish. I pray. I hope. CanonRay May 2017 #130
Is This Before Or After The Karl Rove Indictments? SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #132
EXCLUSIVE: U.S Marshals Service Readying in #TrumpRussia case L. Coyote May 2017 #133
Marshal Order of Execution began yesterday - search and seizure in 10 locations L. Coyote May 2017 #134
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