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Showing Original Post only (View all)EXCLUSIVE: Sealed Indictment granted against Donald Trump [View all]
Last edited Sun May 14, 2017, 12:09 PM - Edit history (3)
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By Louise Mensch and Claude Taylor
Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump.
While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trumps impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.
Separate sources with links to the intelligence and justice communities have stated that a sealed indictment has been granted against Donald Trump.
While it is understood that the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution means that, until Mr. Trump is impeached, he cannot be prosecuted, sources say that the indictment is intended by the FBI and prosecutors in the Justice Department to form the basis of Mr. Trumps impeachment. The indictment is, perhaps uniquely, not intended or expected to be used for prosecution, sources say, because of the constitutional position of the President.
NEW TWEET: This indicates a National Security case and likely Logan Act violations.
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18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
As this story has developed, it has become obvious these two threads are very much intertwined:
Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power
Flynn Intel Group associates were subpoenaed by same Grand Jury just hours before Comey was fired.
BEFORE EDIT: This explains some of the first posts, before we knew what the big news would be.
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I know, but I'm still a dog anticipating a bone from whatever source it may come.
NBachers
May 2017
#7
OP edited with the news: Trump sealed indictment, intended to be basis of impeachment.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#10
Trump himself is STILL CALLING IT "FAKE NEWS" but wanted Comey to ensure that he wasn't being
anneboleyn
May 2017
#118
Having to ask if you are being investigated is an admission of guilty of something.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#119
amazing Mensch keeps landing this huge stories when no one else in the media has any idea
Takket
May 2017
#11
Oui oui! Why, just look how quickly he learnt allllll about "healthcare" in a matter of a couple of
Leghorn21
May 2017
#67
"Says who?!", dammit! - hell L., things are moving fast tonight, but here's a linky to
Leghorn21
May 2017
#74
I missed linking this thread before it closed, but the Mensch trolls were there right away.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#17
Well, it's Saturday night, so I'm guessing at some point they'll call it a prank
ucrdem
May 2017
#22
WHY THE HELL was that thread locked? DUers link to RawStory all the time. The Mensch trolls are out!
anneboleyn
May 2017
#117
I just switched to them after watching Woodward and Bernstein for forty years.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#21
Unless this is confirmed I wont believe it as sources have been wrong in the past. nt
cstanleytech
May 2017
#27
Their sources have been good in the past, so I'd be more positive about this.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#32
Even the best journalists get it wrong, sometimes on accident and sometimes its done to take them
cstanleytech
May 2017
#38
FISA courts don't issue indictments, folks. Their power is limited to
The Velveteen Ocelot
May 2017
#30
As long as he is President and Congress refuses to impeach would any indictment even do any good
cstanleytech
May 2017
#42
I think you could have video tape proof of him selling the nuclear codes to Russia and the Repugants
cstanleytech
May 2017
#47
Well I agree with people doing what they can locally being of prime importance...
renegade000
May 2017
#51
Aye that is their Achilles heel at this moment providing its properly exploited.
cstanleytech
May 2017
#53
There are specific, detailed rules governing the procedures for federal grand juries.
The Velveteen Ocelot
May 2017
#57
If the grand jury was conveyed by the FISA court, it is likely a NatSec case.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#80
I wish this to be true more than anything I have ever wished for in my life
Quixote1818
May 2017
#78
Definition of "sealed indictment" for anyone who doesn't understand (like me)...
lamp_shade
May 2017
#86
Have you forgotten the FBI Directoer James Comey verified her earlier exclusive reporting.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#89
4UR reading pleasure: Full transcript: FBI Director James Comey testifies on Russian interference
L. Coyote
May 2017
#97
I just re-edited the OP to clarify. Plus the big new news is in the OP: Manafort and Flynn indicted
L. Coyote
May 2017
#94
Subpoenas issued for Flynn associates by the Grand Jury indicting Trump, Manafort, Flynn, and others
L. Coyote
May 2017
#111
If Trump had released his taxes and was not hiding his collusions we would not need speculation.
Madam45for2923
May 2017
#96
Dana Boente is leading the Russia probe, although the decision to prosecute falls with Rosenstein.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#100
Flynn-associate subpoenas were issued by Dana Boente, EDVA US Atty who succeeded Yates
L. Coyote
May 2017
#105
Empty Wheel weights in on Special Counsel: Boente Is the Best Short Term Solution.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#107
"No one is above the law, not a high public official, not even the highest public official." Boente
L. Coyote
May 2017
#109
I read a theory that Obama's firing of Boente might have been a head fake.
GliderGuider
May 2017
#125
At end of string is money laundering, RICO, FARA, Obstruction, Conspiracy ... just getting started.
L. Coyote
May 2017
#116
RICO case against ***the entire GOP*** Reince Priebus is on tape, sources say
L. Coyote
May 2017
#120
What does it even mean to say a RICO case is being brought against the "entire" GOP?
onenote
May 2017
#129
Marshal Order of Execution began yesterday - search and seizure in 10 locations
L. Coyote
May 2017
#134