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50. Not true. Sickening to see the trutch distorted for political points

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Cantor Fitzgerald, where Obama will be paid for speaking, lost 658 employees in the 2001 WTC attack. [View all] pnwmom Apr 2017 OP

It's interesting that people were saying Goldman Sachs- I guess it's like oligarch... bettyellen Apr 2017 #1

Hmmmm.... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #11

Yes ... "Tourette's" ... that's it exactly. Automatic, uncontrollable, without-thinking, impulsive. NurseJackie Apr 2017 #33

Tourette's, yes NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #62

Thanks pnwmom for point out these facts! Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #2

dont thank him , i posted the same thing yesterday with only one comment (first to bring it up) tapermaker Apr 2017 #55

? Sorry...I didn't see it...it wasn't an intentional oversight.... Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #64

People notice subject lines first. What was yours? pnwmom Apr 2017 #109

My subject line read wall street firm Obamas speaking to is a little different . tapermaker Apr 2017 #121

The knee jerkers owe President Obama an apology..and that Cha Apr 2017 #3

***I hope everyone reads this post, too!*** pnwmom Apr 2017 #4

You're Welcome.. and passing on this found on FB.. Cha Apr 2017 #7

Thanks, again! pnwmom Apr 2017 #9

But...But Me. Apr 2017 #52

In the nastiest way possible.. Cha Apr 2017 #106

Pololei ʻoe Me. Apr 2017 #110

And, Haoles such as me.. Mahalo, Me. Cha Apr 2017 #112

I Think This Was A Step Too Far/Final Straw For Some Me. Apr 2017 #113

Really.. I could have Cha Apr 2017 #116

... sheshe2 Apr 2017 #12

Aloha back@cha, she Cha Apr 2017 #13

Thank you! We need to start thinking and stop merely reacting! nolabear Apr 2017 #37

You're Welcome, nolabear! Cha Apr 2017 #105

K to the R musette_sf Apr 2017 #5

PLEASE EVERYONE READ MUSETTE'S POST #5. pnwmom Apr 2017 #6

Great post. Thank you. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #16

Thank you so much. nolabear Apr 2017 #39

+1000s DinahMoeHum Apr 2017 #82

No clue. Just Diss. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #8

Thank you so much canetoad Apr 2017 #10

Thanks for posting- criticisms of Pres. Obama are shortsighted and not helpful wishstar Apr 2017 #14

Just lazy thinking on the part of some. They hear "Wall Street" and their brains stop working. pnwmom Apr 2017 #15

Sanders and Warren owe Obama an apology. nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #17

I agree. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #18

+ 1 musette_sf Apr 2017 #53

Noun-verb-9/11... I don't see how this is relevent. Money is speech, but doesn't influence politics That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #19

Cantor Fitzgerald wasn't involved with the mortgage bundling and home loans that helped bring about pnwmom Apr 2017 #20

Cantor Fitzgerald traders were indicted PaintedSkies Apr 2017 #88

He only worked at the firm from till 2011-13. CF didn't offer those securities in 2008, pnwmom Apr 2017 #95

No, Cantor Fitzgerald is not a charity, nor is it Goldman Sachs. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #21

Of course it's not relevant melman Apr 2017 #22

Bernie didn't research Ossoff before he stuck his foot in his mouth. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #31

What does Bernie Sanders have to do with the OP, 9/11, or Obama's speaking fees... That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #85

Bernie has been criticizing Obama for taking the speaking fee from Cantor Fitzgerald. pnwmom Apr 2017 #97

It is literally waving the bloody shirt. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #30

Nobody is "literally" waving a bloody shirt. emulatorloo Apr 2017 #32

Ok you might have a point. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #34

Thanks for the link! emulatorloo Apr 2017 #42

You should learn what literally means. pnwmom Apr 2017 #69

See up thread. Voltaire2 Apr 2017 #81

Of COURSE their primary concern is making money; thats how you STAY in business, 7962 Apr 2017 #35

This is how far around the bend we have gone. As A NYer who contributes taxes for all bettyellen Apr 2017 #48

You know because you live there. So many just hear "Wall St" & shudder. 7962 Apr 2017 #83

"...Many companies do a lot of good with their profits" OMFG That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #86

hey! Lets try it the way venezuela is doing it. THAT oughta work! 7962 Apr 2017 #118

I'm not the one that said that if a company does horrible things it's ok That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #120

As a lifelong NYer, screw this glib response. I know you think Giuliani give you the right to bettyellen Apr 2017 #49

I vividly remember this guy Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #23

He lost 68% of his employees -- including his brother, who helped found the company with him. pnwmom Apr 2017 #24

I didn't know Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #25

I am guessing Sanders and Warren didn't know either, and/or forgot. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #73

I'm not sure what that is all about Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #119

Yes, I remember CE that day. VigilantG Apr 2017 #26

What does one have to do with the other? HopeAgain Apr 2017 #27

That Cantor Fitzgerald wasn't involved with the home loans and mortgage bundling pnwmom Apr 2017 #29

Its easier for many to paint EVERYONE with the same brush regardless of facts. nt 7962 Apr 2017 #36

Thanks for this thread! Madam45for2923 Apr 2017 #28

Did you ever read about Cantor Fitzgerald's lawsuit against American Airlines QC Apr 2017 #38

I just read about it. The settlement money was given to the shareholders and not the families. m-lekktor Apr 2017 #41

Yeah, that was sickening beyond belief. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #43

The settlement was not about loss of employees. tammywammy Apr 2017 #44

And the families didn't see a dime. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #45

Apparently the partners got about $25,000,000 each. n/t QC Apr 2017 #46

The partners had shared more than that out of their profits with the victims' families pnwmom Apr 2017 #66

Your other post is wrong. tammywammy Apr 2017 #47

You must not have read the rest of the post. That company gave 25% of its profits for 5 years to ... brush Apr 2017 #54

I'm with you, and as a lifelong Dem musette_sf Apr 2017 #57

Families would have had their own cases treestar Apr 2017 #117

Not true. Sickening to see the trutch distorted for political points bettyellen Apr 2017 #50

Take it up with the families. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #75

I'm not under the delusion that every finance company is inherently evil.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #87

Then why were the filies pissed off the CEO pocketed ... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #90

Oh please. Some were perhaps as confused as posters here- it happens. bettyellen Apr 2017 #93

They did NOT sue "for loss of employees." That's false. And they did not sue pnwmom Apr 2017 #65

Yes they did. They initially sued for wrongful death - of their employees Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #76

And that was tossed out. If they had received money for wrongful death, pnwmom Apr 2017 #78

Cantor is not Goldman, Cantor wants to be Goldman HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #79

Why must you be so cruel to the suffering investment bankers? QC Apr 2017 #80

Do the families hate them for the ten years of insurance they paid for - or other money they gave? bettyellen Apr 2017 #98

That poor CEO had to pay himself $25 million out of that settlement. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2017 #100

So yeah, after enormous losses and great generosity they should give more.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #102

It is his business. He experienced businesses losses as a result of the attack, pnwmom Apr 2017 #103

Yes. And I have no problem with how they handled it. They didn't pnwmom Apr 2017 #61

Best thread I've seen in a long time. Thank you! nolabear Apr 2017 #40

Are you suggesting it would be somehow wrong if he was giving the speech to Goldman Sachs? n/t hughee99 Apr 2017 #51

No. But the people who are so outraged about that should shut up. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #59

I agree, but I'm not sure this argument will persuade them. hughee99 Apr 2017 #70

Given all that, I'm surprised Obama demanded so much. GeorgeGist Apr 2017 #56

Yeah, Obama's wrong no matter what he does. pnwmom Apr 2017 #58

Can you believe some of these people? Sanders and Warren both owe Obama an apology brush Apr 2017 #63

Do we know if he "demanded" it or was that the "offer"? 7962 Apr 2017 #84

I lost a good friend that day who worked at Cantor kimbutgar Apr 2017 #60

Many people did, kimbutgar. Thanks for speaking up! n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #67

My wife's first cousin was lost there too. I worked in Manhattan then at 25th and Park and for ... brush Apr 2017 #68

Thank you, brush. I know many people in NYC, and saw how devastating pnwmom Apr 2017 #71

And your point is what exactly? Vinca Apr 2017 #72

They have been accused here of being part of the cause for the financial crisis of 2008. pnwmom Apr 2017 #74

The point is Obama speaking at Canter Fitgerald is not the equivalent of Trump appointing Mnuchin. SunSeeker Apr 2017 #77

There is no point at all melman Apr 2017 #91

That means it makes all the sense in the world. Cha Apr 2017 #111

The point is something is seriously F ed up BainsBane Apr 2017 #94

+1. nt pnwmom Apr 2017 #96

Extremely informative thread from many of my favorite people. Thank you, mahalo, gracias... Hekate Apr 2017 #89

The only time I've heard of Cantor Fitzgerald is in regard to 9/11 BainsBane Apr 2017 #92

The boss is scum- took money intended for the families alarimer Apr 2017 #99

That's false. The judge specifically disallowed any award for the families, pnwmom Apr 2017 #101

Got a link for your claim he misappropriated money? Or are you just making that up? nt SunSeeker Apr 2017 #104

Speaking at Cantor in general ... I got no problem with that ... at all ... mr_lebowski Apr 2017 #107

Why? The topic is healthcare, a subject he's intensely interested in, pnwmom Apr 2017 #108

DUers are welcome to never vote for Obama ever again IronLionZion Apr 2017 #114

True enough! But I'd rather people here not disparage good Democrats pnwmom Apr 2017 #115