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walkingman

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102. The Center has moved so far to the right that

Fri Apr 14, 2017, 06:27 PM

Apr 2017

Nixon would look like a Democrat these days. Until the Democratic Party become a more progressive party our country is doomed to be ruled by the Greedy Bastards and Religious zealots.

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For Democrats to recover, ALL left-of-center people should be made welcome in the party. [View all] Ken Burch Apr 2017 OP

We need to appeal to the left and center. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #1

We can do that without treating the left as untrustworthy. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #72

Ideological voters claim the center does not exist but in the real world it does. hrmjustin Apr 2017 #82

That's absurd. In the last election we ran the most progressive campaign in decades, maybe ever. DanTex Apr 2017 #84

As a candidate yes, and in the fall I supported her, as you know. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #85

The campaign was not based on distancing herself from progressive values in any way. DanTex Apr 2017 #88

That is completely false mcar Apr 2017 #99

In a nutshell. This response was worth the price of admission. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #106

Exactly, and Hillary never moved away from her positions radius777 Apr 2017 #98

Post removed Post removed Apr 2017 #2

That's just Divisive.. We have Brilliant Dems running and winning and one is.. Cha Apr 2017 #8

Talk to these guys... Pablorama Apr 2017 #11

We have Excellent Dems running.. I'm sick of the divisive crap. Cha Apr 2017 #15

It's important for the party to be inclusive of both Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #51

You linked to a rw source.. what do you expect? Cha Apr 2017 #110

We can all help Ossoff to win lapucelle Apr 2017 #107

Mahalo, lapucelle! Cha Apr 2017 #111

You link a post to New York Observer which is pro-Trump and Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #43

It's owned by trump's son in law, Jared Kushner. George II Apr 2017 #69

Indeed....now there is a right wing source! Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #90

LOL - perhaps a source leftynyc Apr 2017 #53

That's Jared's site, did you know that? George II Apr 2017 #68

Not gonna happen RoadhogRidesAgain Apr 2017 #3

Preemptive strikes are now a good idea? nolabear Apr 2017 #4

and some of us life time party members simply don't agree with the Jill Stein/Nader members Hamlette Apr 2017 #12

Some of Left and Right are Putin promoters-won't be a Democratic fit. delisen Apr 2017 #27

Yeah, I'm not for appeasing the idiot trumpvoters.. I say Cha Apr 2017 #19

You mean like Bernie Sanders? dansolo Apr 2017 #25

How do you define "our right"? That could include moderate Democrats in key states. pnwmom Apr 2017 #5

I updated my voter registration tonight to correct an error Warpy Apr 2017 #6

You're one of my favorite posters, so I welcome you being here! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #14

Jackpine Radical was a chum and a fantastic poster, so it is annoying that Warpy Apr 2017 #97

Nice post Warpy, well said. Hope you'll continue to grace us with your voice here! Docreed2003 Apr 2017 #103

I know the feeling bekkilyn Apr 2017 #104

Seeing Perez and Eliison working together got me more optimistic Warpy Apr 2017 #108

I really liked that speech Perez made the other day bekkilyn Apr 2017 #109

Trotskyists are left of centre, are they welcome too ? OnDoutside Apr 2017 #7

There are maybe two hundred actual Trotskyists in the entire country. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #86

I suspect there are far more than that ! However, as with many here in Europe, they call themselves OnDoutside Apr 2017 #89

Nope. Eko Apr 2017 #9

Good answer. Though I think if those on the left who voted third party, wrote in Bernie seaglass Apr 2017 #23

. Squinch Apr 2017 #31

+1 brer cat Apr 2017 #38

Amen, Eko (n/t) leftynyc Apr 2017 #54

+1000 sheshe2 Apr 2017 #58

Parfait! jackssonjack Apr 2017 #61

I am a Portland OR left of center DEM fun n serious Apr 2017 #10

OFFS! Foamfollower Apr 2017 #13

they are . most of them vote for democrats and have no problem doing so. if you are talking about JI7 Apr 2017 #16

Supposedly, a higher percentage of Bernie supporters voted for Hillary in the GE than... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #17

Here's one source, although it's not post-election polling. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #20

That is quite revealing. Thanks for posting it. JudyM Apr 2017 #91

You're welcome! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #95

That wasn't really the right comparison in this instance. It should have been what seaglass Apr 2017 #21

The percentage of all third party votes, even if we assume... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #24

You're probably right however if I am going to take something as fact I would want to see seaglass Apr 2017 #33

I agree, but I consider those polls more valuable than anecdotes. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #34

This is a better poll (days before the general election). Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #35

That would not surprise me. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #73

One thing I notice duncang Apr 2017 #18

hopefully they show up! JNelson6563 Apr 2017 #22

If theyre a democrat and will vote democrat then they are welcome. caroldansen Apr 2017 #26

Name of left-of-center person who's unwelcome... brooklynite Apr 2017 #28

Not likely lies Apr 2017 #29

If, after the current debacle, any left of center person does not get off his or her ass and Squinch Apr 2017 #30

Oh yes!! brer cat Apr 2017 #40

If Dems want to win big .. ananda Apr 2017 #32

left of center have never been excluded....unfortunately these people think they have beachbum bob Apr 2017 #36

Please check your post for divisiveness... left of center Dems think they're superior? JudyM Apr 2017 #93

agree, Dems are a centrist party and always have been. radius777 Apr 2017 #100

They've always been welcome Nonhlanhla Apr 2017 #37

Ditto, ditto, ditto! WinkyDink Apr 2017 #46

I wish you would stop these posts. They are divisive. Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #39

And this one is a hit and run. An almost identical R B Garr Apr 2017 #66

Nope. For Dems to recover, the GOPee has to stop breaking the law, plain and simple. nt LaydeeBug Apr 2017 #41

So anyone who SAYS they're a Democrat should be left alone? Disagree. randome Apr 2017 #42

Sen. Schumer appointed Sen. Sanders to lead the Dem Party Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #50

Sanders is a good man. randome Apr 2017 #56

Bernie founded, "Our Revolution" Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #57

There isn't much direction when he supports us one day and badmouths us the next. randome Apr 2017 #59

Other Dems are saying the same thing, as observed earlier in this thread. It's a false and JudyM Apr 2017 #96

No, that isn't true. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #70

What does that have to do with the fact that he jackssonjack Apr 2017 #67

Have a good weekend. Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #71

What difference would it make if he "joined" or not. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #77

Because then he has put something on the line. jackssonjack Apr 2017 #83

We need his supporters and what they stand for, though. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #75

But we lose anyways if they continue to think we're no better than the GOP. randome Apr 2017 #79

That works both ways.... Adrahil Apr 2017 #44

Can we leave out Susan Sarandon? WinkyDink Apr 2017 #45

Pretty sure she would't WANT to work with us, so it's a moot point. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #76

Heh. Touche'! WinkyDink Apr 2017 #92

For that matter, I don't think she wants to work with reality these days. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #94

"Victory requires inclusion" - Yes, it does. Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #47

The Democratic Party already welcomes everyone who is MineralMan Apr 2017 #48

... BannonsLiver Apr 2017 #49

The democratic party needs to include everyone they can! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2017 #52

Of course they're invited, bless your heart. LanternWaste Apr 2017 #55

Yep. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #62

I'm left of center if not far left FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #60

I consider myself to be an FDR Democrat too, except... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2017 #63

Thanks for that. And it isn't even about Bernie as such. Ken Burch Apr 2017 #74

they are but some of them expect treestar Apr 2017 #64

That's easier said than done. ananda Apr 2017 #65

Since when haven't they been? L. Coyote Apr 2017 #78

The problem is more about reality vs ideology askyagerz Apr 2017 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Apr 2017 #81

It's already happening. Scruffy1 Apr 2017 #87

+1 political parties just don't have so much importance anymore bekkilyn Apr 2017 #105

but most who voted in Drumpf also voted GOP radius777 Apr 2017 #112

They ARE. But you apparently think we should be bowing down to one group of party members. pnwmom Apr 2017 #101

The Center has moved so far to the right that walkingman Apr 2017 #102