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37. And will this historic clusterfuck ever be set right?
Thu Apr 13, 2017, 08:18 PM
Apr 2017

Where do we go from here? Will our government (or our country!) ever be configured as it was before this?
With Citizens United and gerrymandering, will there ever be a "fair" election again? Is it going to be one-party rule from here on?

Is this how American democracy dies? I'm fucking serious. We are in completely new territory now. The old paradigm has been blown to pieces, just vaporized.

This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 OP
Government first seeks to protect itself. Apparently that extends to Warpy Apr 2017 #1
Well said. volstork Apr 2017 #2
Parker was a lot more optimistic than I am Warpy Apr 2017 #5
The 'arc of history' is a lovely sentiment but seems to be in reverse now SharonClark Apr 2017 #50
Last I heard, Obama was in Tahiti. cwydro Apr 2017 #10
He's out of office and it was never his job Warpy Apr 2017 #14
I completely agree. cwydro Apr 2017 #42
Whatever Obama ends up doing or not doing not fooled Apr 2017 #63
Those are executive agencies. Obama was their boss. sharedvalues Apr 2017 #51
It's called the rule of law. volstork Apr 2017 #33
obama would have set a dangerous precedent? tomp Apr 2017 #18
So...you're saying that our president IS a dangerous precedent? PatrickforO Apr 2017 #35
The arc of history bends clear out of sight FiveGoodMen Apr 2017 #19
I love that MLK quote. I guess it's MLK. About the arc of history. PatrickforO Apr 2017 #34
Great quote. MLK Jr was quoting Unitarian.. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #47
That was the most reasonable thing I've read since this happened. Thanks. nt C Moon Apr 2017 #29
Thank you for this AwakeAtLast Apr 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #48
To me, the hypocrisy is glaring. no_hypocrisy Apr 2017 #53
Think of government as a living, breathing NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #60
WTF is RIGHT!! Talk about a rigged system! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2017 #3
The problem as i understand it was that there is a very longstanding policy pnwmom Apr 2017 #4
rather unfortunate longstanding policy maxsolomon Apr 2017 #6
They investigated Hillary. boston bean Apr 2017 #9
Well, they closed it before the general. But it's true that they re-opened it in October and they pnwmom Apr 2017 #11
Talk about dismayed. world wide wally Apr 2017 #7
The answer to your scary question is more frightening... Moostache Apr 2017 #16
I am completely dismayed myself, too... GetRidOfThem Apr 2017 #22
I could care less about the long arc of history! My concern is all the work that has been done Liberal In Red State Apr 2017 #8
This is simple really yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #12
And what REALLY enrages me is to watch these unelected FUCKS destroy our country. BigDemVoter Apr 2017 #13
The FBI/Comey was too busy investigating Hillary's emails NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #15
yet they came out with that bullshit about Hillary's emails Skittles Apr 2017 #17
Yes, and it breaks my heart. LisaM Apr 2017 #38
Truly, it is because of the fundamental principle: "Innocent until proven guilty". Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #20
The truth was hidden from the public because elmac Apr 2017 #21
As the USA has had a huge number of people in the military BSdetect Apr 2017 #24
And YET...Comey felt the need to say HRC still under investigation 10 days before the election! Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #23
Well it's history now...this jerk is president jimjc Apr 2017 #25
All academic now, trump to start worldwide thermonuclear war in NK, turn on the tv. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #26
He would kill his own grandchildren. Demtexan Apr 2017 #45
NO, not his grandchildren, but all other grandchildren are fair game SharonClark Apr 2017 #52
Because it depends on the republicans who have the majority in Congress still_one Apr 2017 #27
Trump wasn't supposed to win. dchill Apr 2017 #28
Mitch Fucking McConnell. He did this. Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #31
What I don't understand is big fucking deal if they accused Obama of playing partisan politics? CrispyQ Apr 2017 #61
Some things are more important than an election GliderGuider Apr 2017 #32
redumbliCONs lie, cheat and steal before, during and after elections. democratisphere Apr 2017 #36
And will this historic clusterfuck ever be set right? VOX Apr 2017 #37
Top Republicans were in on the treason, because of the Perfect Storm--House, Senate, SC on the line. 0nirevets Apr 2017 #39
It's what happens when mainstream politicians fail LittleBlue Apr 2017 #40
I keep shaking my head, what happened? Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #41
I find myself doing the same thing ... Greywing Apr 2017 #44
He and his team were a creative bunch. Equinox Moon Apr 2017 #54
you can't stop progress, only delay it. pansypoo53219 Apr 2017 #43
Yep Meowmee Apr 2017 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2017 #49
I've been on outrage overload for so long, it has become the new normal Martin Eden Apr 2017 #55
his supporters do not care that Russia was running our election. He would have still won. Hamlette Apr 2017 #56
It is clear to me that the FBI and intelligence services would have done anything to prevent Nitram Apr 2017 #57
All this just showing us that we are fucked! BlueJac Apr 2017 #58
I'd call my Rep and bitch Plucketeer Apr 2017 #59
I had a glimmer of hope during the House hearings, but it's gone now. CrispyQ Apr 2017 #62
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