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In reply to the discussion: Supporting the values of the Sanders movement is not "refighting the primaries". [View all]Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)318. It comes from the belief that he costs us the election.
Trump is a disaster for this country...consider how much Nader is disliked to this day..and Trump is way worse than Bush...There is a recession coming people...hubs and son work in autos...Son is laid off from one plant and temporary assignment at another is on hold...autos are the first to feel the effects of recession. I don't think he ever should have run in such an important year ...given the states...courts, Obamacare etc. That being said, I am prepared to move on and fight Trump.
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Supporting the values of the Sanders movement is not "refighting the primaries". [View all]
Ken Burch
Feb 2017
OP
Yesterday, you literally claimed anyone not supporting Ellison was anti-Muslim.
NCTraveler
Feb 2017
#1
This - and claiming HRC supporters played the race and gender cards. STOP IT!!
bettyellen
Feb 2017
#4
You are correct. Except in the minds of people who think the womens march was due to Bernie..
boston bean
Feb 2017
#98
Speaking of the Women's March- I saw a guy there sporting a huge Bernie 2020 sign.
NBachers
Feb 2017
#266
Those who supported Hillary are also progressive and there is no such movement.
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#195
I go there every once in a while and marvel at the support for Trump even now.
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#220
Stop making divisive claims about HRC supporters being Islamaphobic or playing race and gender cards
bettyellen
Feb 2017
#20
So in the next election you have a mainstream dem, repub, and a 3rd party person who cant win
Eliot Rosewater
Feb 2017
#102
I'd vote for the Dem. I proved that in 2016 by campaigning hard for Hillary in the fall.
Ken Burch
Feb 2017
#107
Good to hear, then you can help spread the word, that voting for one of the 2 parties
Eliot Rosewater
Feb 2017
#223
Well it would not be the first time those who who purport to support liberalism but are
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#196
Good OP Ken. We must keep up the fight despite the whining bitter crowd in here
LiberalLovinLug
Feb 2017
#243
That's the thing....they actually DON'T disagree with me (ie. most Sanders supporters)
LiberalLovinLug
Feb 2017
#316
Bernie Sanders just accidentally explained why his political revolution has failed
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#379
You're right, Bernie is not a typical Democrat... indeed, based on his views, he's MORE of a Democrat than most Democrats.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#55
He is not a Democrat at all-he has said this. He is an independent who caucuses with the Democrats.
MADem
Feb 2017
#119
You have to admit NO ONE has worked harder to stop the Nazi-in-Chief than Bernie!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#232
Why should he? That's why Bernie's popular and gets elected in Vermont... Why so hung up on labels? His POLICIES are more Democratic than most Democrats!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#331
If Sanders wants to remake the Democratic party in his image, he needs to be a part of it
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#332
Yes--I saw that and found it incredibly offensive. Ken Burch, you aren't helping the cause
MADem
Feb 2017
#117
Why do you bring up he primaries in thread after thread? You did that, not anyone else.
bettyellen
Feb 2017
#2
I commend you Ken... and I expect many, if not most, Hillary supporters will campaign for Bernie in 2020.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#58
You charged HRC supporters with playing a race card!! And then you claimed Dems are Islamaphobic...
bettyellen
Feb 2017
#111
Stop parsing that bullshit. You know how deeply you have offended people so I don't know why you
bettyellen
Feb 2017
#125
Evidently it is okay to tell Jewish voters not to be part of the Democratic party
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#330
You mean like telling the Democratic Party that it was Islamaphobic if they did not vote for Ellison
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#34
He's running for Senator again, and he's already filed and organized a re-election committee........
George II
Feb 2017
#54
I've been watching and listening to him recently ... either he's been ill, or he's lost his "fire".
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#215
You're wrong about that Ken... it's a gimmie Bernie runs again... it's his turn.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#59
those of you who called Tom Perez 'establishment', 'neoliberal, 'corporatist'
La Lioness Priyanka
Feb 2017
#7
You said it... Bernie is truly the only candidate that can unite us and he will! The revolution continues...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#178
My point is about the ideas his campaign stood for and those who want to work for them.
Ken Burch
Feb 2017
#106
Please understand that Bernie espoused values found in the Democratic Party for
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#200
I know they were there, but they always lost in the party to corporate centrism in the past.
Ken Burch
Feb 2017
#280
That only makes sense if the sanders policies were actually popular with voters
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#380
perhaps one could espouse the values without associating them with a particular politician nt
msongs
Feb 2017
#16
Yeah. These are 'Democratic' values. Trying to subvert that just pisses people off.
randome
Feb 2017
#27
Bernie DEFINES Democratic values... he has shown us the way forward... it's time we heed the call and follow him!
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#61
And they control the house, senate, a majority of the governors, etc. because?
HopeAgain
Feb 2017
#79
for the same reason White cops on Video killing innocent black people are still not convicted .
JI7
Feb 2017
#145
stop making excuses for white racists. and stop acting like POC can't be working class .
JI7
Feb 2017
#144
no. trump got a bunch of white people who didn't vote before to vote for him over race
JI7
Feb 2017
#262
Comey, Voter suppression, Russia... !!!! all else is bullshit and you're still wrong. Cheating doesn
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#186
We lost narrowly because of a bitter divided primary...and who caused that?
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#202
No more independents running in our primaries and trashing the party for months...
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#253
Let's be very clear here..Bernie Sanders did NOT have a "right to run"
The Sand Reckoner
Feb 2017
#257
The Party has no right to stop anyone from running for office as a Democrat. (nt)
PotatoChip
Feb 2017
#289
You are absolutely correct about economic issues are directly related to bigotry/racism...
Talk Is Cheap
Feb 2017
#46
You see, Ken? See? It's shitty and divisive posts like this that result from posts such as ...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#53
serously? Your first post was a prime example of what this brings out in people. Why look further.
JCanete
Feb 2017
#66
You forgot the NRA, the military industrial complex, and toxic waste profiteers.
lapucelle
Feb 2017
#364
If you don't like the dance, you should probably take your concerns to the band-leader OP.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#180
Of course, the implication here is that the Democratic party is therefore "weak" and "unprincipled".
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#48
Running as a Democrat? I'll be surprised... I think he's burned that bridge.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#72
I disagree Jackie... but, obviously, we'll see... I don't think Bernie will have much of a following UNLESS he runs as a Democrat...
InAbLuEsTaTe
Feb 2017
#86
Politicians need to be tougher than that. Especially ones who aspire to be president.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#181
I do understand that certain districts require more conservative Democrats.
Fantastic Anarchist
Feb 2017
#236
Four things I think are true...Nader will not run for the presidency in 2020 (1)
Demsrule86
Feb 2017
#309
Has he joined the party yet? Last I saw he was not running as a Democrat in 2018
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#268
It's interesting that he won the primary there. Perhaps voters are much more progressive than
jalan48
Feb 2017
#294
We want your vote but not you! I like it. I'm sure it will attract independent voters in 2018
jalan48
Feb 2017
#313
I'm honestly so sick of hearing his name and each time I see it I like him less
NoGoodNamesLeft
Feb 2017
#75
There should be a time limit because supporters need time to grieve their candidate's loss
NoGoodNamesLeft
Feb 2017
#226
Pointing out where we need to change is not bickering, elongated primary next time wont help either
uponit7771
Feb 2017
#247
By "Naderized" I mean that many will forever blame Bernie for Trump winning
NoGoodNamesLeft
Feb 2017
#224
Wrong. I compared how people FEEL about him to how they FEEL about Nader
NoGoodNamesLeft
Feb 2017
#343
Very well said - why fight tooth and nail to win the battle when there's a whole war out there?
George II
Feb 2017
#101
Yes. Thank you. His "self-deleted" thread was erased from this site, but not from our memories.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#105
"HRC Squad"?? That's unnecessarily offensive. Why go there and start that shit up again?
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#122
Oh, hello there! Are you the same "Armstead" from before? If so, I'd like to go ahead and ...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#121
I'll take that as a "yes", then. Our Democratic Party is your enemy and oppressor, right?
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#140
Oh, hi there! Hello! That was yesterday. I've already forgotten all about you and moved on.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#173
Did Sanders ever Call for Impeachment ? he was in office, what did he do to get support for
JI7
Feb 2017
#143
that is to form some committee to look into it. nothing to show he actually called for impeachment
JI7
Feb 2017
#153
if that was the most serious than they were not actually serious about doing it at all
JI7
Feb 2017
#160
i was around and Sanders did not support Vermont towns which voted to impeach Bush
JI7
Feb 2017
#165
I remember him calling for a primary, but I can't recall one for an impeachment.
lapucelle
Feb 2017
#367
I reject your entire premise, Ken. You'll have to do better than that. WANT TO TRY AGAIN??
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#298
So it's just that easy to return? I have a friend who's been FFR status for-freaking-ever...
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#133
Correct. BTW, as of a few minutes ago, his second username/account/membership has been banned.
George II
Feb 2017
#134
I'd be lying if I said I was sorry to hear that... and my momma didn't raise no liar.
NurseJackie
Feb 2017
#136
I want Dems with Vision.. like Like Senator Al Franken, Rep Maxine Waters, Senator Kamala Harris..
Cha
Feb 2017
#170
SO whats the problem - GET OUT THERE AND SUPPORT IT! In particular Bernies SS bill - I came to DU
Kashkakat v.2.0
Feb 2017
#189
This drooling worship of one man who can't even be bothered to join the Democratic Party...
randome
Feb 2017
#227
We're supposed to believe our only choice is center-right to alt-right. Bullshit!
brewens
Feb 2017
#301
It is not a good idea to remake the Democratic party into the image of someone who is not a Democrat
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#302
No problem. I don't think we should make the party in anybody's image. What should our values be,
JCanete
Feb 2017
#319
Your logic is not sound. I have actually deferred to you in earlier conversations, because of your
JCanete
Feb 2017
#323
You have presented no logic and I really do not care about your feelings/non-expert opinions
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#324
I was getting tired of posters giving us their feelings/unsubstantiated opinions
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#360
I was actually at the convention and saw the nastiness of the Sanders delegates first hand
Gothmog
Feb 2017
#374