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LisiFFXV

(36 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 12:45 AM Jan 2017

We should not support the impeachment of Trump [View all]

without the impeachment of Mike Pence as well. Although it is (remotely) possible that he is genuinely innocent of any wrongdoing, given his entanglement with Trump, it is too dangerous to allow him to potentially continue as president given that he may be just as complicit as Trump in all of this. There is every reason to believe that he may:

1. Take orders from Trump after Trump is impeached.
2. Independently continue in the same direction as Trump.
3. Allow Trump's actions and appointments to stand after Trump's impeachment.

Furthermore, if Russia did indeed manipulate our election, then his tenure as either vice president or president is just as illegitimate as Trump's.

Ultimately, the risk is too great not to impeach him as well if we want to assure that this madness comes to a complete stop.

Although we are still too far away for realistic chances of impeachment, there is every reason to believe that impeachment could be on the table in the coming weeks and months. When the time comes, congress must impeach and remove both of them concurrently.

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Do you want Paul Ryan to be president? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2017 #1
It is the better and safer option LisiFFXV Jan 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author susanna Jan 2017 #30
Am I the only person here who remembers Spiro Agnew?! Hekate Jan 2017 #33
Pence would be better MadBadger Jan 2017 #2
Yup. Pence is very dangerous, but at least is professional, important internationally. Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #9
at least Pence is a pro who knows where the thirds rails are. He would want to run for re-election TeamPooka Jan 2017 #23
As long as Bannon goes with DT, ginnyinWI Jan 2017 #4
Ban Bannon Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #10
Bannon is the most evil. He does not want to make right, Jim Beard Jan 2017 #34
To the world n/t moonscape Jan 2017 #35
Well, whatever idiot that would take over in his place should be weakened mvd Jan 2017 #5
If we get to the impeachment and removal of the Loser President, I suspect WheelWalker Jan 2017 #6
Isn't this kind of like saying... LisiFFXV Jan 2017 #11
Remember, trump didn't want Pence in the 1st place. TeamPooka Jan 2017 #24
I don't think there's a real similarity. By "collateral damage" I mean his inner circle. WheelWalker Jan 2017 #29
So let him cook his own goose. Melleon57 Jan 2017 #7
Who is going to impeach him? LisaL Jan 2017 #8
I suspect LisiFFXV Jan 2017 #12
I will believe it when I see it. LisaL Jan 2017 #13
Jack T Ripper. MFM008 Jan 2017 #19
same here. The GOP is going to ride Trump like a rented mule for all they can get from him TeamPooka Jan 2017 #26
Putin agrees with you. I think the reasoning in this post borders on alternative facts. Exultant Democracy Jan 2017 #14
no doubt AlexSFCA Jan 2017 #15
I really believe that nothing would please Pence more than getting rid of TrekLuver Jan 2017 #16
Make the Republicans do it. HassleCat Jan 2017 #17
Bullshit. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #18
Pence would be like Gerald Ford bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #20
On what grounds? Liberty Belle Jan 2017 #21
There are no checks on the impeachment power LisiFFXV Jan 2017 #22
I am pretty sure both congress and senate would be pretty happy with Pence as president. LisaL Jan 2017 #25
You apparently LisiFFXV Jan 2017 #27
You will need convince the Republicans, not us. Kablooie Jan 2017 #28
This is silly. As bad as Pence is, Trump is far more of a threat than Pence. BzaDem Jan 2017 #31
There are no grounds to impeach Pence. Good grief. Also -- you have Pence all wrong. Hekate Jan 2017 #32
Not to play Devil's Advocate, but what if Steve Bannon stays in the Pence WH? no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #36
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