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In reply to the discussion: Anybody who says there is no difference between the two parties is an absolute idiot. [View all]JCanete
(5,272 posts)41. Of course there's a difference. I'll take a Dem in office over a Republican every time. It's where
they are the same(or shades of the same) that we have a problem. Its where our lack of conviction for standing uniformlyagainst the very moneyed interests that ultimately get people like Trump elected, that we have a problem.
You are right though, the language "they are all the same" is seductive, and is gleefully relied upon by powerful interests to foster public apathy and to suppress voter turn-out. I don't think the differences are missed by liberals who are cynical of our system. I think that many of them believe that our refusal to grab that third rail is why we continue to backslide on progressive policy in this nation(in particular economic policy, which only helps to empower racist scapegoating) , and why the right has been able to get more and more outrageous over the last 30 years.
People ARE ignorant of civics and politics, which is why we suffer a system that is so manipulated by money--on BOTH sides of the aisle to varying degrees. We can certainly look to society at large in its fostering that, and individuals as they helped to shape society, but those individuals are as much or more a product of it, than its producer. Which is why I'm not interested in being self-righteous about people who seem less sophisticated when it comes to matters of American Government and idealism. As part of the larger culture, we're collectively at fault.
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Anybody who says there is no difference between the two parties is an absolute idiot. [View all]
LonePirate
Jan 2017
OP
I know a few on FB who are STILL dug in and refuse to admit they were wrong in pushing that claim
blm
Jan 2017
#2
There was a little too much truth to that the first time it was said (years ago)
FiveGoodMen
Jan 2017
#3
It's depressing to think that after 4 or 8 years a Democrat will be voted in and the hard work
betsuni
Jan 2017
#4
With the amount of voter surpression and outright fraud we're going to see in 2018 and beyond,
briv1016
Jan 2017
#42
I was appalled and then outraged when Ralph Nader said it in 2000, & have not changed my opinion...
Hekate
Jan 2017
#7
The far Left is where you see this position being held. It's very damaging to our cause.
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#8
I agree, that is why I believe that it is very important for the far Left to stop using the
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#35
Never used the word "all". I responded with agreement to the position in the OP. That is my right.
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#38
Totally agree. The more people move from the center to either extreme, the more you see this
Trust Buster
Jan 2017
#64
How different the world would be if Nader hadn't gotten all those votes in FL in 2000. n/t
rzemanfl
Jan 2017
#22
A-effing-men! Also you are putting in office people with empathy, who are not interested only in
Akamai
Jan 2017
#15
Those are not DUers. You're thinking of the JPR crowd and the brainless fools over at that sewer.
LonePirate
Jan 2017
#31
Do you honestly think Clinton would have done the same things had she been elected?
LonePirate
Jan 2017
#34
No, that's not the only criterion. Where did I say that? It's just one criterion.
DanTex
Jan 2017
#48
Even more sickening when you realize Stein was the SANE one on her ticket.
HughBeaumont
Jan 2017
#49
Of course there's a difference. I'll take a Dem in office over a Republican every time. It's where
JCanete
Jan 2017
#41
I've been saying that for years. It means they can be dismissed as fools instantly
Renew Deal
Jan 2017
#51
Ralph Nader started that "memo", and we have been paying for the consequences
still_one
Jan 2017
#55
Amen. We're sure as hell are paying the price for the actions of the purity police. (nt)
Paladin
Jan 2017
#57
Of course not. Was that a common opinion here in the past or something?
Buckeye_Democrat
Jan 2017
#59