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Who me ? Single drop Jan 2017 #1
Look up the stages of how the human brain develops. procon Jan 2017 #2
Then why stop at tobacco? CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #9
The original intent of "age of majority" laws was to protect youngsters until they matured Hekate Jan 2017 #36
Where I grew up... ret5hd Jan 2017 #3
59? Lochloosa Jan 2017 #6
Yep. ret5hd Jan 2017 #16
May I ask where that is? CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #10
Only the oddest place in the lower 48: OK ret5hd Jan 2017 #13
Tobacco is very addictive...physically addictive. Weed is not. TrekLuver Jan 2017 #4
Two things: One, weed isn't legal under 21 either, and two, tobacco is way fucking worse for you. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #5
Bingo bravenak Jan 2017 #15
doesn't matter. when you're 18 you have the *responsibilities* of being an adult; you should have TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #45
it's an arguable point Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #50
Both weed and tobacco increase your chances of getting lung cancer. milestogo Jan 2017 #7
I'm not familiar with tobacco edibles- other than chewing tobacco loyalsister Jan 2017 #34
nicotine gum? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #39
Have people started chewing it for health reasons loyalsister Jan 2017 #43
smoking tobacco is not a right edhopper Jan 2017 #8
If we're going to ban it, ban it from all or from none. CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #11
things like tobacco and alcohol edhopper Jan 2017 #17
age restrictions, yes Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #20
Well, we make a distinction between adults and minors on all sorts of things. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #22
Oh, bullshit. Hey, my dad even died from lung cancer, but you know what? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #19
Second hand smoke impacts others around the smoker mythology Jan 2017 #29
No, the minute your choices endanger others then it becomes their business. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #30
WHEN 2nd hand smoke is a problem, it should be prohibited, otherwise not. OK? nt TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #47
I don't often agree with you Texasgal Jan 2017 #31
I can be a right **** sometimes Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #32
OMG. does a person own and control their own body??!! a lot of "progressives" are unfortunately TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #46
If you notice edhopper Jan 2017 #53
The reasoning "it's my body, hands off" works sometimes. Igel Jan 2017 #12
Very well said CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #14
I agree 100%, except about vaccination. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #23
Tobacco will kill you and the people around you. LeftyMom Jan 2017 #18
Anti-weed musicians: Ted Nugent, Gene Simmons, and New Kids on the Block Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #21
Who noodle dances to jam bands again? LeftyMom Jan 2017 #24
Oh my god, if you can't appreciate that Other One Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #25
Imma just leave this here.... opiate69 Jan 2017 #27
Weed just makes you have bad taste in music makes no freakin sense...it's not even TrekLuver Jan 2017 #40
I am 49 and still think that 18 year olds should Doreen Jan 2017 #26
Especially the "tried as an adult" thing CaliforniaLove Jan 2017 #28
exactly; shouldn't even be an issue. sadly, most people will take away the rights of others in just TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #48
IKR? People who "think" and have "opinions" that are "different" kcr Jan 2017 #54
thank heavens someone Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #61
Given that somehow I actually agree with some of your posts in this thread, that is too funny, WD kcr Jan 2017 #83
apparently, you can't be against the drug war unless you're also against social security. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #60
Was this a dig at me? Because I don't agree with that other poster. kcr Jan 2017 #86
No. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #87
Unless you think heroin and meth should be legal, then the government is going to be DanTex Jan 2017 #33
no one has tried "the purist libertarian thing". What we HAVE tried is the authoritarian one. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #35
No, but people have advocated it. DanTex Jan 2017 #37
"tightening smoking laws" isn't the same thing as outlawing nicotine. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #38
The OP isn't talking about outlawing nicotine. Nobody is. DanTex Jan 2017 #41
Actually, the reason for that is that very few people live in their own amusement park Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #42
No, the reason is that they're illegal. DanTex Jan 2017 #51
know what? I'm not going to apologize for believing that people should have the RIGHT to Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #55
So you're totally ignoring the arguments I'm making. DanTex Jan 2017 #57
you're not making arguments. You'e conflating unrelated shit. Here, I'll play: Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #59
Yes, I am. I'm challenging your libertarian orthodoxy. DanTex Jan 2017 #65
I don't have a fucking "orthodoxy". Unlike some people, I am exactly what I appear to be, here. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #66
Actually, yes, you do. It's just that you apply the principles inconsistently. DanTex Jan 2017 #69
Thank you for presuming that you're inside my head. But you're not. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #71
I'm not presuming anything, that's why I'm asking. I'm going by what you have said. DanTex Jan 2017 #73
so how come we never see Batman and Bruce Wayne at the same time? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #76
You know, it's almost sad kcr Jan 2017 #85
I've pretty much said everything I need to say on the matter, in the thread. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #88
i think heroin and meth *should* be legal. who are you to tell anyone what they can or can not TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #49
Do you also apply the same principle outside of drugs? DanTex Jan 2017 #52
Do you think that paying taxes is the functional equivalent of having a leg forcibly amputated? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #62
Huh? Of course not. Neither is not being allowed to shoot heroin. Not sure what your point is. DanTex Jan 2017 #63
Do you think women should have the right to use birth control or get abortions? Why or why not? Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #64
Of course. The cost-benefit analysis is easy because there are no costs whatsoever. DanTex Jan 2017 #67
so personal freedom is totally irrelevant. Gotcha. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #68
Of course it's relevant. It's a benefit. DanTex Jan 2017 #70
right, but personal freedom is bad, because milton friedman. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #72
Of course personal freedom is good. What are you talking about? DanTex Jan 2017 #74
no, your orthodoxy is that people aren't allowed to make their own decisions. Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #75
What? No. My orthodoxy is that people should be allowed to make their own decisions, DanTex Jan 2017 #77
you disagree with my statement up there that "prohibition doesn't work". Do you think it has worked Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #78
Whether it's worked with heroin is a good question. DanTex Jan 2017 #79
Again, it's not so much that I think "shooting heroin is great", I philosophically believe that the Warren DeMontague Jan 2017 #80
OK. I disagree, I think that point of view is entirely arbitrary with respect to liberty. DanTex Jan 2017 #82
i never said that there should be a ban on banning drugs; you are conflating the two; TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #81
You did said heroin and meth should be legal, right? DanTex Jan 2017 #84
when you're 18 you can be drafted and thrown in jail with ax-murderers; you should be able to buy a TheFrenchRazor Jan 2017 #44
You really can't think of a reason why people would see both issues differently? kcr Jan 2017 #56
I've never met anyone who didn't impose arbitrary limits LanternWaste Jan 2017 #58
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