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citood

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5. I read a fascinating book about the anthrax vacinne used in the first gulf war
Tue Jan 10, 2017, 05:13 PM
Jan 2017

I wasn't mercury, but a naturally occurring fat called squalene which was the topic. Apparently, in the early days of vaccines, squalene was used to help a vaccine grow (I think eggs are used for this for the flu shot every year as an example).

Anyway, for reasons that aren't completely understood, squalene caused complications in some people - mostly nerve related. And, it hasn't been in widespread use in this nation for 50 years.

Back to the gulf war - we had hundreds of thousands of troops who needed the anthrax vaccine quick...quicker than it could be made. The solution...allegedly...squalene. And, according to this book, this was the underlying cause of "Gulf War Illness". I don't know if the book is 100% accurate or not, but it sounds plausible.

Anyway, its things like this...and the mercury...which get people's tin foil going. The medical establishment never made a big deal about removing the mercury - likely because the first obvious question would be 'what was wrong with mercury', followed closely by 'whom do I sue'. I wish vaccine proponents would shout loud and clear that there is no mercury...but they just mumble it. And, obviously with the squalene, the army isn't too keen on giving direct answers either.

I'm all for vaccines, 100%...we just need to find a better way to more clearly communicate back and forth with the vaccine makers, about what is safe, what the risks are, and why today's vaccines are even safer than before.

I voted yes, but there isn't even a question, really. HassleCat Jan 2017 #1
There is one thing that is forgotten in this debate Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #2
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I am sorry ............. when did he get his vaccine?? Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #12
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I am sorry you and your family had to go through this Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #23
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I read a fascinating book about the anthrax vacinne used in the first gulf war citood Jan 2017 #5
Probably because it's wrong. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2017 #13
Um, costs? Are you implying something besides the dollar value of vaccinations? LonePirate Jan 2017 #4
The poll speaks for itself. It's unanimous. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #6
So, this was just for attention? nt procon Jan 2017 #16
Why would you impugn a stranger's motives? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #18
You first. nt procon Jan 2017 #19
Whose motives did I impugn? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #21
There are potential costs citood Jan 2017 #7
I did not perceive it that way. Also, there is an asterisk next to "costs?*" that hints at risks. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #30
Absolutely. I'm old enough to remember the polio outbreaks and went to school with kids Arkansas Granny Jan 2017 #8
My dad's sister died in childhood too. hunter Jan 2017 #20
Odd that you used polio as an example. KamaAina Jan 2017 #9
If you grew up in the early 50's you remember polio. longship Jan 2017 #10
I remember polio. SwissTony Jan 2017 #29
As a polio survivor cyclonefence Jan 2017 #11
Thank goodness for Dr. Jonas Salk - and the Polio vaccine... asiliveandbreathe Jan 2017 #14
I believe your question sucks. procon Jan 2017 #15
I find it sad that you would impugn the motives of a fellow denizen of this board. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #22
Buck up buttercup. You 'sad' doesn't come close to the disgusting insinuation procon Jan 2017 #24
There you go again DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #25
My brother had polio at age 5 katmondoo Jan 2017 #26
Lead & Mercury? Our water exposes us to more. One gets more exposure touching fake silver jewelry. TheBlackAdder Jan 2017 #27
I had to choose "Yes" rock Jan 2017 #28
At the pedatric office where I work, the current... 3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #32
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