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PoindexterOglethorpe

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37. On one hand you are absolutely right.
Sun Jan 1, 2017, 06:54 AM
Jan 2017

On the other, they've reduced funding for everything, including the infrastructure. I'm not sure they fully understand that they need safe bridges -- actually bridges are a huge problem. The collapse of I25 in Minneapolis was nearly 10 years ago now, and I don't believe bridges have been noticeably strengthened since then. Bridges are catastrophes waiting to happen. It's my impression that they think they are somehow magically protected from the deliberate neglect of the infrastructure.

After all, things like the bridge collapse in Minneapolis don't happen every day. Heck, it's been almost a decade so how bad can things be? But things can be very bad. I'm sure citizens of the Roman Empire didn't fully appreciate how bad things were until it was too late. Which took hundreds of years.

Similarly, this country is past its peak. My personal take is that the peak was around 1965, but historians a couple of centuries from now will be better placed to figure the date. Clearly (at least it's clear to me) by the time Ronald Reagan became President we'd crested the hill and had started the very long, slow, but inevitable downward slide. Most people can't begin to recognize this, because our country still has the money and the wherewithal to maintain bases around the world, to finance new jets, send soldiers off to innumerable endless wars. But make no mistake. We are in the sunset of the American Empire.

One of the ways you can tell is the crumbling infrastructure. Not just roads or airports, but hospitals, schools, the general social contract.

Shall we discuss schools? For a couple of decades now the prevailing meme is that public schools are terrible, they are failing, teachers are incompetent. While I'm not about to go into those things in detail, consider this: If our schools are so awful, why are so many of our colleges and universities so hard to get into? It's not because most places are taken by foreign students. Nope. There are more extremely well-qualified American students competing with each other. Yes, there are bad schools. There are ones who graduate students who can barely read or write. But that's connected to race, class, and the money invested in those public schools.

Anyway, if you're right (meaning I'm wrong) about the infrastructure thing, I'll be glad. Because investing in the infrastructure might actually lead to investing in other things, like public schools. But I'm not holding my breath.

I find that improbable. malthaussen Dec 2016 #1
I'm seeing this as an opportunity cilla4progress Dec 2016 #2
you're forgetting two things .... MountainFool Dec 2016 #11
One correction: lastlib Dec 2016 #15
true enough ... MountainFool Dec 2016 #18
The Democratic Party is the loser and the underdog. The media loves a comeback story. Nitram Dec 2016 #19
Re: 'puke voters not fooled Dec 2016 #23
Example: More LA Repubs blame Obama than Bush for botched federal Katrina response. tblue37 Dec 2016 #29
wow MountainFool Dec 2016 #35
Welcome to DU, MountainFool! calimary Dec 2016 #36
Not that it matters J_William_Ryan Dec 2016 #3
Yep, that pretty well sums it up how I see it. Cha Dec 2016 #4
We as Democrats have Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #5
hillary is still hiding away while we deal with the wreckage. not any leadership from her nt msongs Dec 2016 #22
One trick you bet on that Republicans will use: world wide wally Dec 2016 #6
Until a Democrat is in the White House again wryter2000 Dec 2016 #7
I rather doubt they will pass infrastructure bills to create jobs. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #9
They also like nice airports, safer roads for their sport cars, and being able to ship their goods world wide wally Dec 2016 #10
If they actually like those things, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #26
They opposed them to not allow Obama to succeed. It would have created jobs and world wide wally Dec 2016 #28
You are right about their motivation back in 2009, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #32
Think about who the infrastructure really serves. world wide wally Dec 2016 #33
On one hand you are absolutely right. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #37
the infrastructure bill will be HUGE tax cuts NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #20
Sorry to say,there are not going to be any new jobs. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #27
Remember when Bush spent his "capital" touring the country about privatizing Social Security? wryter2000 Dec 2016 #8
but that was back when the Media Cryptoad Dec 2016 #12
And when the 'pukes hadn't consolidated their power not fooled Dec 2016 #24
They never did with him wryter2000 Dec 2016 #34
until we get our next 9/11 incident 0rganism Dec 2016 #13
Beware of weak men who are attended by people MineralMan Dec 2016 #14
I think Donald Trump expects to spend his HeartachesNhangovers Dec 2016 #16
he's also going to negotiate the "big" deals NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #21
It all sounds reasonable. BUT... Buns_of_Fire Dec 2016 #17
Yes make sure the Democrats treestar Dec 2016 #25
and distraction MFM008 Dec 2016 #30
Stupidity elected him. No one uses critical thinking any more. USALiberal Dec 2016 #31
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