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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
316. hey
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

I've watched my "political allies" sit on their high horse for 50 years always looking down upon me with 'compassion and empathy' shining in their eyes, saying "I'm on your side" and then ride off into the sunset never looking back but shouting, "it's going to get better, you'll have your eqaulity one day" and NOTHING IS REALLY DIFFERENT from that time 46 years ago when I ran the police gauntlet of nightsticks during a protest against Spiro Agnew.

The gauntlet now consists of bullets and in the case of Sandra Bland, she had no chance to escape execution. My true "allies" are few and far between my liberal and progressive "ally" and this is exactly why racism, white supremacisrs and the New American Nazi Party has so many members that 300million+ americans can't hide that fact. Hell their leader is running for POTUS to put AA, women and all muslim and hispanic people "back in their place". Racist hate is still a sad fact of life for millions subject to it on ALL levels of american society because my "allies" are too far and few between. Thank God The new generation of activists like BLM are out there now pissing off the "allies" because AA can't wait any longer for the "allies" to climb off their high horse and join the fray in numbers that will let the hate faction(s) of america understand they are outnumbered. AA people are truly still fighting an uphill battle with racist and their army(s) and with very few "allies" in the coalition.

This site has shown me what my "allies" are all about when it has come to the murder/executions of AA people from Trayvon Martin to Mr. Scott. So as summation, I feel you are saying my white "allies" are my only chance to see true "white privilege" equality in my lifetime, my childrens life and my grandchildrens lifetime, so don't piss us off? I am sick and tired of the high horse riders speaking down to me. "You better keep your mouth closed, we won't help you if you piss us off". Ahhh BULLSHIT!!!!!, I am quitting the site here precisely because I have seen my "allies" and it's very difficult to find them in this crowd now and truly has been difficult for the last 40+ damn years. This site and it's liberals and progressives has shown me some very sincere and true allies, yet they, in cases like the murder of AA people by whites, have shown themselves to be a pitiful few. To all I've responded to in these subthreads on the murder(s)/executions of Mr. Martin all the way up to Mr. Scott and who have 'warned' my from their high horses not piss off the good "allies" and even got many good AA's banned, shut down and pissed off on this site, you were NEVER an ally in the first damn place. NO FUCKING DOUBT. I will be PM'ing who I feel are true allies. To the rest. Go on, keep riding those high horses, the can't last forever. I am done with my "allies" here.

Que the character assassination of a man killed after sitting in his car waiting for his kids KeepItReal Sep 2016 #1
+1 Glassunion Sep 2016 #3
Pointing out facts isn't character assassination Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #8
Did he have a standing warrant for his arrest? Then he was NO TARGET of LEOs waiting for his kids. KeepItReal Sep 2016 #33
Correct - he was not a target. Not at least until he showed a blunt AND a gun. jmg257 Sep 2016 #34
When you openly babe a gun and drugs in front of cops Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #37
That just isn't true. Marr Sep 2016 #65
I am sure every violent ex-felon gun-humping domestic & child abuser who gets shot by authorities jmg257 Sep 2016 #72
SMH Mr Dixon Sep 2016 #88
How does it not have anything to do with it? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #98
Really Mr Dixon Sep 2016 #301
Where to even start Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #302
Madness Mr Dixon Sep 2016 #320
Yes, because the penalty for all of that is death, right? RonniePudding Sep 2016 #137
Yes often the penalty for refusing to drop a weapon when confronted by police is death. Egnever Sep 2016 #143
I get where you're coming from RonniePudding Sep 2016 #145
Again Egnever Sep 2016 #147
No Separation Sep 2016 #246
Then he should have been charged with a crime and read his rights psychmommy Sep 2016 #176
Had he made better choices he would have been Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #182
except if you are a minority. psychmommy Sep 2016 #190
So easy to judge from behind a keyboard. pintobean Sep 2016 #191
That is a powerful video Egnever Sep 2016 #205
Cue the typical response: jonno99 Sep 2016 #218
Yeah, we've seen some of that in this thread already. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #222
Thanks for sharing that video Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #225
Except cops have training to handle such situations, at least they're supposed to brush Sep 2016 #245
Trainibg doesn't slow things down or make things less confusing in the moment Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #247
Huh? It sounds like you're saying training is worthless. brush Sep 2016 #249
Your setting an unrealistic standard Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #251
So now you're saying a trained officer will do no better than someone untrained. brush Sep 2016 #255
That's not what I said at all Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #256
Better is a goal worth seeking. Better training is a goal also worth seeking . . . brush Sep 2016 #258
So what would you train differently for the officers in the Scott case Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #260
TRAIN THEM THAT BLACK MEN ARE NOT THE ENEMY. . . brush Sep 2016 #271
OK so in other words you don't have any real answer Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #273
That is the answer. Open your mind. brush Sep 2016 #274
That doesn't answer the question. What IN THIS INCIDENT should they have done differently Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #275
I don't care if it was a black officer. DE-ESCALATION. Ever heard of it? brush Sep 2016 #278
That is a popular buzzword Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #280
You keep saying he had the gun in his hand without proof of that brush Sep 2016 #282
Yep, you don't have answers Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #284
You are so inflexible in your defense of police killings brush Sep 2016 #288
Here is something else Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #298
As I thought, totally inflexible from backing the shoot to kill mentality brush Sep 2016 #328
There sometimes isn't a way Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #330
Training has to change. psychmommy Sep 2016 #335
That's what the cops were trying to do. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #227
+1 Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #14
How about the fact that the wife intentionally risked the lives of those Marr Sep 2016 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author pintobean Sep 2016 #52
The daughter as well exboyfil Sep 2016 #120
Always happens. sinkingfeeling Sep 2016 #57
How serious was his injury if he was driving? TexasMommaWithAHat Sep 2016 #104
+million. Disgusting. None of that was known when he was accosted and killed. ecstatic Sep 2016 #123
You have no way of knowing that Egnever Sep 2016 #149
This is false , we know from the Leo's account uponit7771 Sep 2016 #206
You know what? Egnever Sep 2016 #209
They didn't know shit about him and didn't give a fuck either uponit7771 Sep 2016 #212
Can you link proof of that or are you just reflexively throwing stuff out. Egnever Sep 2016 #216
It's facts that debunk all the he didn't have a gun bs. pintobean Sep 2016 #154
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #204
Running plates is SOP. This would reveal his extensive record. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #240
in that case, they were right to perform a summary execution. Orrex Sep 2016 #2
That's what I was thinking . . . obviously, he deserved to die hatrack Sep 2016 #4
It looks almost like he wanted to day FrodosPet Sep 2016 #79
He Didn't Deserve To Die RobinA Sep 2016 #91
Agreed. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #92
But just a few days ago people here were saying cops planted the gun Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #5
Which is the bigger injustice? Orrex Sep 2016 #7
He wasn't "executed" Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #11
Why did they shoot to kill? blogslut Sep 2016 #17
Is this sarcasm? Ace Rothstein Sep 2016 #22
Yes and that has been my complaint Jim Beard Sep 2016 #38
Firing at appendages, especially in motion, increases the chance of a miss... Marengo Sep 2016 #121
Like I mentioned in my post, wounding shots should be used when there are 2 or more Jim Beard Sep 2016 #286
Where do those missed bullets end up? michreject Sep 2016 #297
If you are trying to get me to say an innocent bystander, then I say you shouldn't be shooting at Jim Beard Sep 2016 #336
Just asking a simple question? michreject Sep 2016 #343
3 cops empty a few dozen rounds into his legs is better? You've heard of the femoral artery, right? NickB79 Sep 2016 #345
Nobody is ever trained to shoot at an arm or leg. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #23
European LEOs are trained not to kill but to mame. GeorgeGist Sep 2016 #30
That's the first time I've ever heard of that. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #31
Here is a reference so far as I understand relevent to Swedish police practice... Marengo Sep 2016 #102
What? That's impossible! Orrex Sep 2016 #35
Those gun advocates are right on that point. Marr Sep 2016 #61
I don't know about police but CHL training teaches to shoot to end the threat. Hangingon Sep 2016 #71
That's a semantic argument mythology Sep 2016 #81
That's not true Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #84
No one is trained to 'mame' with a gun. Sorry. Marr Sep 2016 #59
Interesting article jmg257 Sep 2016 #63
How much of Europe is armed? Ace Rothstein Sep 2016 #83
They discuss that at the link. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #86
There is something wrong with the training Jim Beard Sep 2016 #295
That's question would be funny if you were not serious Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #26
Maybe they need stress training. Jim Beard Sep 2016 #39
Maybe people need to drop their weapons Egnever Sep 2016 #129
Because life isn't a Playstation game? Marr Sep 2016 #44
Exactly. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #54
That does not work in real life. Oneironaut Sep 2016 #139
Probably because the incident was not a T.V. western... Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #192
There is never a good reason to shoot for the arms/legs kudzu22 Sep 2016 #333
Funny that white guys are disarmed all the time, then Orrex Sep 2016 #18
So are blacks guys. The days after Scott was shot, two white men and one white woman were shot tonyt53 Sep 2016 #56
Citations, please Orrex Sep 2016 #62
many many examples here Egnever Sep 2016 #125
Interesting--quite a few indeed. Orrex Sep 2016 #144
How about the one below. It gives race and small summary of what happened. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #167
Well, the discussion had expanded beyond the current case. Orrex Sep 2016 #180
Ah, so facts and evidence really do not mean anything when compared to your agenda. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #187
Oh, you're one of those. Orrex Sep 2016 #193
Damn right I'm one of those - one of those that looks and listens with an open mind. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #236
No, not one of those. Orrex Sep 2016 #250
Your words tell a different story. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #263
Agreed Egnever Sep 2016 #267
Thanks--I clearly have more thinking to do on this subject Orrex Sep 2016 #281
Np Egnever Sep 2016 #293
You may not like the high-bow programming, but the "Most Shocking" episodes on the Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #194
The story discntnt_irny_srcsm Sep 2016 #341
A few days ago? Hell, they're STILL saying that. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #9
Yeah - but the cops didn't KNOW he was an ex-violent felon with a history of domestic violence jmg257 Sep 2016 #6
I wonder if any of those cops have a history of domestic violence or substance abuse. Orrex Sep 2016 #10
Good question...Do they do drug tests at the CPD? jmg257 Sep 2016 #20
Domestic violence is a disqualifier under the Lautenberg Amendment nationwide Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #27
Thanks for the info! nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #29
Not sure about that Orrex Sep 2016 #66
Only convictions count under Lautenberg bug most agencies are stricter Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #67
Thank you--that was a very thoughtful and thorough answer Orrex Sep 2016 #69
Thank you Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #75
A person with a gun and drugs in a car is the very definition of Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #12
Yep. Sarcasm was implied. jmg257 Sep 2016 #96
I predict this thread will go well. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #13
Well, it's going as predicted. pintobean Sep 2016 #15
Agreed. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #16
Illegal guns, domestic violence, police shootings hardluck Sep 2016 #25
A felon knows they cannot possess a weapon. A felon knows that he will be returned to prison Trust Buster Sep 2016 #19
+1 NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #21
typical answer heaven05 Sep 2016 #53
Pointing out facts does not make one a "murder apologist." NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #76
I stated facts. You stated invective. That's the only thing that's typical here. Trust Buster Sep 2016 #90
you have no idea heaven05 Sep 2016 #114
Good thing you don't do that. pintobean Sep 2016 #116
it's a question heaven05 Sep 2016 #119
Same from this side Egnever Sep 2016 #153
This was not murder Egnever Sep 2016 #136
None of that matters; only what happened that day treestar Sep 2016 #24
It demonstrates a clear pattern of past behavior Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #28
Still none of that justifies the shooting treestar Sep 2016 #32
No- but his actions justified it Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #43
again are the police justified just because a person has a gun? treestar Sep 2016 #45
DO you think you would drop it if told to a bunch of times? If not, I'd worry...a lot. jmg257 Sep 2016 #49
Yeah I'd drop it treestar Sep 2016 #51
Understood and agreed. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #60
Scott wouldn't have been able to sue anyone. branford Sep 2016 #161
Excellent post. Kang Colby Sep 2016 #289
He might have tried treestar Sep 2016 #323
He was sitting in his car near a school rolling a joint branford Sep 2016 #337
That goes both ways, I mean people who are treestar Sep 2016 #342
I'm one of those Democratic pro-gun guys. branford Sep 2016 #344
Not "just because a person has a gun" Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #50
interesting in that treestar Sep 2016 #55
"The police really need to mow down a few white people" melman Sep 2016 #70
It may - if you have examples I would look treestar Sep 2016 #95
lots of examples here Egnever Sep 2016 #108
OK, thank you treestar Sep 2016 #321
Check out the link below. Now where is the outcry for the three white listed and Philip Hasan tonyt53 Sep 2016 #265
Seriously? RobinA Sep 2016 #94
I agree that's exactly what these black guys should do treestar Sep 2016 #97
Past behavior? Has he shot anyone in the past? Jim Beard Sep 2016 #40
Yes. jmg257 Sep 2016 #41
And made threats to shoot his wife less than a year ago Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #48
Since you didn't provide a link, I had to find parts of it myself Jim Beard Sep 2016 #73
Ha - they might in NY! They take that shit seriously in NYC. jmg257 Sep 2016 #77
But, that wasn't the question you asked. pintobean Sep 2016 #80
Of course it matters - if he had had the gun legally he would just Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #221
And yet Bettie Sep 2016 #36
You don't know that. Marr Sep 2016 #46
Ah yes, summary execution Bettie Sep 2016 #87
You have to realize that is an absurd statement. Marr Sep 2016 #89
And if a white gun-humper violent ex-felon domestic & child abuser holding an illegal stolen gun jmg257 Sep 2016 #100
Nope. MicaelS Sep 2016 #128
Check #108 upstream, Bettie.NT Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #198
so he deserved to die, right? heaven05 Sep 2016 #47
Where did I say that? pintobean Sep 2016 #58
You're making stuff up. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #64
That's what this whole thread's about. Iggo Sep 2016 #82
Here's your strawman FrodosPet Sep 2016 #133
Was that enough to deserve the death penalty from out of control police? Initech Sep 2016 #68
Of course not, but when ordered by police to drop a weapon... NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #74
I see people defending the CURRENT cops rules, including that they investigate themselves. Jim Beard Sep 2016 #78
Okay, that's enough. Iggo Sep 2016 #85
Anyone who is actually concerned about overzealous policing would back away from this. Marr Sep 2016 #93
That's exactly what's happening and it's just making things worse Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #101
This a million times this ^^^^^ Egnever Sep 2016 #155
Amen. n/t Adsos Letter Sep 2016 #112
summary execution it was heaven05 Sep 2016 #122
Just keep telling yourself that. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #162
You keep saying 'execution' as if what happened was out of Scott's control. Had jonno99 Sep 2016 #226
You're right-- *you* don't need them. Marr Sep 2016 #242
hey heaven05 Sep 2016 #316
I understand your frustration Egnever Sep 2016 #327
Very well said Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #331
I'm for talking about Tulsa, Oklahoma, but folks into guns and stuff want to stick with Charlotte. Hoyt Sep 2016 #170
Good point - where are the Tulsa threads?? I thought there had been a couple started. jmg257 Sep 2016 #177
I'm all for talking about the obviously bad Tulsa shooting- but *this* is the one under discussion friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #179
Well, this thread was hatched by a gun apologist, as typical. And gungeoneers are jumping on. Hoyt Sep 2016 #189
Inconvenient truth remains truth no matter who brings it up friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #195
Good news - there is a new Tulsa thread to hop into! jmg257 Sep 2016 #197
I wouldn't call it 'good news', but *that* is an obvious case of police criminality. friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #199
Yes - Good point. jmg257 Sep 2016 #230
"...gungeoneers are jumping on." Ah, THAT explains the good data and sound argument. Thanks! Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #200
Yeah, from people who need a gun strapped to their body to walk out the door. Hoyt Sep 2016 #201
Hoyt, you are nothing if not predictable. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #202
Like Mr. Scott? sarisataka Sep 2016 #232
Our interlocutor scarpered after your inconvenient observation... friendly_iconoclast Sep 2016 #348
Point taken - that's a big factor in what got Scott killed. jmg257 Sep 2016 #233
I knew it was you from all that "gun strapping" stuff. Doing OK? Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #350
I know it's you from the gun reference on you User Name Hoyt Sep 2016 #351
She didn't charge royalties. Eleanors38 Oct 2016 #352
"thread was hatched" "gun apologist" pintobean Sep 2016 #300
A 'better' way? One 'better' way is when in the presence of the police, don't get out of the car jonno99 Sep 2016 #229
and the final piece falls into place. Egnever Sep 2016 #99
the video didn't show that Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #103
Sorry we disagree. Egnever Sep 2016 #105
which video clearly shows a gun? Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #107
ironically enough the Wife's Egnever Sep 2016 #109
Yes. The lawyer exboyfil Sep 2016 #117
What jury? XemaSab Sep 2016 #292
It will be a travesty if he does. Egnever Sep 2016 #294
The civil trial exboyfil Sep 2016 #299
thanks... Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #140
No problem Egnever Sep 2016 #146
why is this coming out now and why didn't his wife say this before? Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #106
No way to know his wifes motives Egnever Sep 2016 #110
And people were injured and one man killed and lots of property damaged Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #113
I can understand her actions. I don't like them but I understand them Egnever Sep 2016 #124
apparently... she has a lot to answer for Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #135
Beginning with inciting a riot. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #196
Yep - scary what investigations, when given the time, will turn up. jmg257 Sep 2016 #111
Should it have come out 2 months ago? The2ndWheel Sep 2016 #115
Maybe before the riots pintobean Sep 2016 #118
You people who keep defending cops who act as judge, jury, and executioner are the problem. ecstatic Sep 2016 #126
The problem goes both ways IMHO Egnever Sep 2016 #127
Galant effort Puzzledtraveller Sep 2016 #349
^^^ THIS. Iggo Sep 2016 #134
This is looking more and more bighart Sep 2016 #130
This makes his wife's cries of MicaelS Sep 2016 #131
Well, that COMPLETELY justifies executing him in the streets without a trial. 6000eliot Sep 2016 #132
Yes sadly it does Egnever Sep 2016 #138
Because, of course, this is a COMPLETELY ISOLATED incident 6000eliot Sep 2016 #173
How does this incident have anything to do with the others? Egnever Sep 2016 #175
Yes, EVERY incident is an isolated incident, 6000eliot Sep 2016 #183
That I agree with Egnever Sep 2016 #188
Cops assume the risk of death when they take an oath FrodosPet Sep 2016 #142
That's not even close to reality Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #148
You are correct FrodosPet Sep 2016 #158
What? Egnever Sep 2016 #156
Yes it is FrodosPet Sep 2016 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author X_Digger Sep 2016 #266
I see the "always back the badge" crowd is here and in full roar RonniePudding Sep 2016 #141
I see the "always blame the cops" crowd is here and in full roar. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #150
Well boo hoo RonniePudding Sep 2016 #151
LOL NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #152
Oh. I get it. He deserved what he got. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #157
Deserved it no Egnever Sep 2016 #160
Awwww. You make it all sound so clinical. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #168
You mean the mitigating fact she lied about? Egnever Sep 2016 #172
Heh-heh. Another torpedo below the forward stack. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #203
"Why did they have to fuck with him in the first place?" Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #181
As I posted above... pintobean Sep 2016 #163
Yes, I did have such a thread Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #165
You miss the point when it's clearly stated. pintobean Sep 2016 #166
No, I didn't miss the point. Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #169
The dead guy was the bad guy Egnever Sep 2016 #174
No, I would not have Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #184
I am fine with melting every single one of them Egnever Sep 2016 #213
This is false uponit7771 Sep 2016 #211
What is false? Egnever Sep 2016 #214
That he was bad... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #215
The fuck? Egnever Sep 2016 #217
Not at the time he was murdered by the cops... uponit7771 Sep 2016 #219
LOL Egnever Sep 2016 #220
Yes at the time he was shot in an armed confrontation with bighart Sep 2016 #228
Oh, I think it's fair to assume at this point that he was a fairly bad guy. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #223
Yes, accuse me of lying pintobean Sep 2016 #185
An if I did? Stinky The Clown Sep 2016 #186
Because in this scenario Uponthegears Sep 2016 #164
Umm, they have a man in custody who has admitted to selling him the gun Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #171
It's really convenient. If the guy in custody had the gun, ecstatic Sep 2016 #235
What color is the sky in your world? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #239
Hrmm. Crickets, I see. n/t X_Digger Sep 2016 #268
They did...see the OP. nt jmg257 Sep 2016 #178
Amen...que the "you're stupid because you won't take the cops word for it" ad homs uponit7771 Sep 2016 #208
The man is dead for fucks sake. Stfu already. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #207
The police in this case are going to be scrutinized endlessly. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #210
This was posted in service to the living. There is incredible hypocrisy here. Yo_Mama Sep 2016 #224
I wouldn't call it hypocrisy. These things aren't always so clear cut. onecaliberal Sep 2016 #253
No. pintobean Sep 2016 #270
The truth is there is plenty of reasons for black people to be skeptical onecaliberal Sep 2016 #276
Absolutely Egnever Sep 2016 #296
It looked like the cop planted the gun. Lunabell Sep 2016 #231
"Who has access to stolen guns? " Keith Scott. It's now documented how he purchased this one. Bonx Sep 2016 #234
Documented by who? The cops who killed him? They could have been carrying the stolen gun ecstatic Sep 2016 #237
Then they hiked up his cuff and threw an ankle holster on him...all by the time he hit the ground. jmg257 Sep 2016 #238
Secret police ninjas planted the holster on his leg Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #244
I blame the Chinese. They get up at 4am to play the violin for 8 hrs, do math for another 8 hrs jmg257 Sep 2016 #248
This post right here is why I am so pissed at the media Egnever Sep 2016 #257
Its fucking amazing really..we hear about how stolen guns are used to commit jmg257 Sep 2016 #243
It is crazy isn't it Egnever Sep 2016 #259
So that's grounds for summary execution in your opinion? brush Sep 2016 #241
He exited the vehicle with the gun in his hand. He was then told to drop the weapon. These jonno99 Sep 2016 #252
Post a link to him getting out of the car with the gun in his hand. brush Sep 2016 #254
So I just want to be clear here. Egnever Sep 2016 #261
not real clear,but google gave this Go Vols Sep 2016 #262
A good recreation there Egnever Sep 2016 #264
Absolutely. How many times have we seen that cops lie to cover their ass brush Sep 2016 #269
Got it Egnever Sep 2016 #272
The ankle holster doesn't mean the gun is in his hand. He could have left it in the car brush Sep 2016 #277
Yea unicorns can pop out of my butt too Egnever Sep 2016 #279
You believe everything cops say. I don't. We've seen too many time where they lie brush Sep 2016 #283
Has nothing to do with belief it is on video for all to see Egnever Sep 2016 #285
Not so. Post a link where it shows the gun in his hand. brush Sep 2016 #287
All major PD's are hiring. When will your application go in? Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #304
Why should the cops believe her saying he had a TBI bighart Sep 2016 #303
Can't follow police instructions, but can drive an SUV. jmg257 Sep 2016 #314
so you would think hfojvt Sep 2016 #290
Who knows for sure, but of all those cops one of them should have been . . . brush Sep 2016 #291
She completely blew her own credibility with the cops bighart Sep 2016 #305
There's no photo evidence of Scott holding a gun in his hand, no matter what the alt right uponit7771 Sep 2016 #309
I didn't say there was photo evidence bighart Sep 2016 #313
Just so you know, the gun is a .380. Not sure how that jives with the wife's 9mm statement. jmg257 Sep 2016 #315
That written statement should have triggered an investigation pintobean Sep 2016 #318
Agreed Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #319
Gee, I wonder if any other cases are ever decided without photo evidence. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #324
Technicallity vs morality, no gun no benefit of the doubt given to PD who haven't earned it uponit7771 Sep 2016 #338
We obviously have differing opinions of law enforcement. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #339
I don't especially when they don't have a good relationship with citizens they're supposed to serve uponit7771 Sep 2016 #347
Your benefit of the doubt is totally irrelevant. pintobean Sep 2016 #340
And you know for sure that she knew he had a gun? How do you know that? brush Sep 2016 #322
I do not know for sure that she knew he had a gun. bighart Sep 2016 #329
She was yelling he didn't have a gun when he obviously did Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #332
No, many orange wallet shootings with no gun in the victims hand... people act like the police uponit7771 Sep 2016 #308
You got it uponit7771 Sep 2016 #307
There is no photo evidence of a gun in Scott's hand, NOT ONE uponit7771 Sep 2016 #306
There doesn't need to be Lee-Lee Sep 2016 #310
here's a challenge just for you! TheSarcastinator Sep 2016 #311
Cruthcer in Tulsa the DAY BEFORE THIS ONE bighart Sep 2016 #317
Agreed. That was a bad shoot. NaturalHigh Sep 2016 #325
Clear as day Egnever Sep 2016 #326
Walter Scott kudzu22 Sep 2016 #334
This is false on its face in this context, good try though uponit7771 Sep 2016 #312
What is false on its face in this context? bighart Sep 2016 #346
Was the gun up and pointed or was the gun down? DeltaLitProf Oct 2016 #353
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