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heaven05

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155. you are

Thu Jul 7, 2016, 09:34 AM

Jul 2016

Last edited Thu Jul 7, 2016, 02:27 PM - Edit history (1)

one of the reasons I am losing faith in some of my fellow progressives, if you are one. You might be a plant. But nonetheless I havee been reading words such as yours that reflect a total disregard for human life that possess brown skin since Trayvon Martin. People said he was a felon, threat, ect, ect when he wasn't and only had Skittles and a ice tea on his person.

If a white person, felon or not, gun on person or not, is shot while committing a crime or not, the outrage reaches the high heavens with apologists for the victim.
If he has brown skin, words like yours appear quickly and often. Pretty obvious the meaning behind such disregard for human life.

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Alton Sterling MURDERED. A video that should disgust the nation. [View all] liberalnarb Jul 2016 OP

no words left salin Jul 2016 #1

^THIS^ yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #187

K&R... spanone Jul 2016 #2

Cop should be arrested for murder. citood Jul 2016 #3

Indeed, this was not a police liberalhistorian Jul 2016 #6

That's how it works in police states malaise Jul 2016 #207

Just call them pigs...real cops don't execute innocent people. Rex Jul 2016 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #7

Do they put former cops in the general population? nt puffy socks Jul 2016 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #56

That's what I thought. puffy socks Jul 2016 #59

Um...I mentioned segregation, I guess you missed that part. Rex Jul 2016 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #95

True, it is just one prey vs predator mentality. Rex Jul 2016 #111

They will possibly be charged...maybe Bettie Jul 2016 #108

I know, I just stay hopeful. Rex Jul 2016 #109

Don't look too far down this thread Bettie Jul 2016 #112

Oh I agree, reading some of the replies here...yikes. Rex Jul 2016 #114

Sounds like a good place to stop Go Vols Jul 2016 #120

Victim blaming seems to have replaced baseball Bettie Jul 2016 #151

This makes me so angry puffy socks Jul 2016 #5

A tragic side effect of open carry ... 100 times more likely to happen, MH1 Jul 2016 #8

Well there was DWB (Driving While Black) and now we have CWB -- Oh then in MN both DWB and CWB live love laugh Jul 2016 #156

You don't get a license for open carry. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #158

I just saw the other video from the store owner RockaFowler Jul 2016 #9

Link to other video? liberalnarb Jul 2016 #10

For what it's worth... jtuck004 Jul 2016 #18

Adding it to OP. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #20

Why cant people awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #126

Fear, mostly, I imagine. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #172

Yeah, probably right. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #174

Where did you see the store owner's video? johnp3907 Jul 2016 #14

I saw it on Daily Beast RockaFowler Jul 2016 #15

Thanks. johnp3907 Jul 2016 #16

The last sentence in the article at your link infuriates me: tblue37 Jul 2016 #31

Only White People Allowed Open Carry billhicks76 Jul 2016 #11

Boom. geardaddy Jul 2016 #13

He was a felon who wasn't allowed to carry a weapon NobodyHere Jul 2016 #19

Witnesses have said that he never threatened anyone with a gun. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #22

Cops And Military Post On DU All The Time billhicks76 Jul 2016 #25

I believe he was a felon, so I don't think it is false information. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Th1onein Jul 2016 #39

The sherriffs website Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #41

so being a felon makes one automatically worthy of death? paleotn Jul 2016 #46

No. I'm just stating that the fact that he is a felon is a factual statement. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #49

And my response is.... paleotn Jul 2016 #50

And your response is... a strawman. DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #65

How so? Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #89

I think it is pretty clear. Go back and read it. DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #106

Ah, so you meant the _previous_ response. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2016 #166

so, are you an apologist for murderers now? paleotn Jul 2016 #198

Are you caple of making a logical argument? DesMoinesDem Jul 2016 #204

A felon in possession of a firearm is a 10 year/$100,000 fine felony on its own. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #161

I still don't care paleotn Jul 2016 #188

Obviously it does for some folks, I cringe at the thought they would ever be on a jury. Rex Jul 2016 #191

Isn't that the truth.... paleotn Jul 2016 #201

They didn't. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #194

MAY back up my assertions? paleotn Jul 2016 #199

Why so personal? AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #205

The officers didn't need to murder him in cold blood, there I fixed it for you. Rex Jul 2016 #190

No, but it does mean you are committing a felony simply by touching a firearm. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #162

Ah, you BELIEVE he was a felon. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #47

He was committing another felony by having a gun in his possession. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #181

He was not the one who threatened people with a gun RockaFowler Jul 2016 #23

So sad. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #48

this type of heaven05 Jul 2016 #26

+1, bunch of sophistry and half ass'd facts to justify murdering another human uponit7771 Jul 2016 #136

How do you know he is a felon? bravenak Jul 2016 #28

Here's one source: Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #34

If the state has open carry bravenak Jul 2016 #36

If they were told he had a gun by a 911 call, then that may have set the scene. Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #40

Nonsense gwheezie Jul 2016 #42

This guy was a violent criminal. Let's wait for the facts. n/t Kang Colby Jul 2016 #79

This is false and the store clerk already said he wasn't the one they called the cops on uponit7771 Jul 2016 #129

sooooo heaven05 Jul 2016 #149

THIS. liberalmuse Jul 2016 #87

Felons can't possess guns. In any event, dude should have just complied. No need to wrestle with Kang Colby Jul 2016 #82

If the cops taser you and smash your face on the concrete, make sure not to flail or react. forgotmylogin Jul 2016 #184

This is not an unfair point. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #195

Well, his skin was brown... that's all they needed to know uponit7771 Jul 2016 #128

Yep, as usual bravenak Jul 2016 #130

Neither the gun, nor his criminal record have anything to do with his death. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #51

Agree on the gun and record part. Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #58

Well where is s/he? The caller better come forward. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #60

I wouldn't hold my breath. Dr. Strange Jul 2016 #63

... liberalnarb Jul 2016 #61

You can't pay your dues on a domestic violence conviction. Lautenberg Amendment. Forever AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #167

A felon and a domestic violence conviction. Double disqualification to have a firearm. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #164

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #137

That's really irrelevant even if true gwheezie Jul 2016 #33

concise and to the point Go Vols Jul 2016 #123

+1000 gollygee Jul 2016 #152

Bullshit, nice try. nt Logical Jul 2016 #69

When did he threaten anyone? Witnesses say he didn't, and his gun was in his pocket when he was kill uppityperson Jul 2016 #80

sophistry, the cops didn't know this uponit7771 Jul 2016 #127

The man was a convicted felon. It was illegal for him to carry a gun. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #74

Cops can tell this by a glance? Bettie Jul 2016 #110

He would have been charged. But he decided to fight Kang Colby Jul 2016 #115

He didn't fight Bettie Jul 2016 #116

Watch the video. He fought the two cops. eom Kang Colby Jul 2016 #117

I have fought them too, Go Vols Jul 2016 #125

If you fight police, you have a good chance of getting killed color not withstanding jack_krass Jul 2016 #192

Cause they decided to do something when the cops shouldn't have? uponit7771 Jul 2016 #131

The mother of his 15 year old son was 17 when she was consensually impregnated by him. He was 20. live love laugh Jul 2016 #157

Looking at his history, the big blinking red problem is the domestic violence charge/conviction. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #171

He was a convicted felon, a sex offender and a prohibited person. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #147

sooooo heaven05 Jul 2016 #153

Straw Man. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #180

the usual response heaven05 Jul 2016 #186

Rebut it then. Should be easy for you, use facts and stuff. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #197

look I understand now heaven05 Jul 2016 #203

He had a firearm in his pocket according to the cops on the video--how does that justify his murder? live love laugh Jul 2016 #159

I didn't say LEO were justified in the shooting in any way. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #179

Just as nobody should be in favor of cops murdering someone in cold blood. Rex Jul 2016 #189

They will say it is because it's illegal for him to so much as touch a gun. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #160

He was illegally carrying a *concealed handgun*. A convicted felon. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #185

Real cops don't exist anymore Loki Jul 2016 #12

Officer caught on camera buying shoes for homeless man Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #193

The good ones are becoming less and less, Loki Jul 2016 #196

As others have mentioned, La. is an open carry/no permit state Blue_Tires Jul 2016 #17

I can't bring myself to watch. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #21

I hate to burst anyone's bubble Uponthegears Jul 2016 #24

Pretty much bravenak Jul 2016 #27

How about "rogue 'justice' system"? nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #32

Not rogue Uponthegears Jul 2016 #57

"Rogue" in the sense of going far away from what a civilized society would tblue37 Jul 2016 #66

+1, Mother Jones has a science article on this... we're programmed in America to think brown skinned uponit7771 Jul 2016 #132

always have been heaven05 Jul 2016 #154

obey police instructions or pay the price Angel Martin Jul 2016 #177

Jesus Christ! StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #30

When will this stop! My heart breaks for his five children. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2016 #35

I just saw it on the news,I feel sick. sufrommich Jul 2016 #37

These assholes need to be convicted for first degree murder!!! nt LostOne4Ever Jul 2016 #38

We can only hope, but I am not counting on it. smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #81

Guns are "White Only". Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #43

I would prefer felons and sex offenders don't carry them. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #45

I would prefer nobody carried them. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #52

I guess they just got lucky this time. Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #54

GOT LUCKY? What the hell is that supposed to mean?? liberalnarb Jul 2016 #55

Because he was a felon and illegally carrying a gun dbackjon Jul 2016 #62

Again, the cops did NOT know this at the time ... why are people excusing what on its face looks lik uponit7771 Jul 2016 #135

Racism dbackjon Jul 2016 #178

The cops "got lucky" that the man they shot several times in the back had a prior record? Wtf? uppityperson Jul 2016 #85

Imagine if everyone who owned one had to be photographed and fingerprinted.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #64

I'm sure he would have been the first in line to register his firearm, along with all the other Marengo Jul 2016 #206

I would prefer the cops not play... one_voice Jul 2016 #68

+1, 2nd Amendment is a whites mostly law uponit7771 Jul 2016 #133

It was originally a national security law. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #145

White people tired of murdering white cops. MFM008 Jul 2016 #44

Jesus. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #67

Oh, FFS. Alton Sterling was a violent criminal, a convicted child molester. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #70

The police had no knowledge of his record. They would have killed him anyway. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #71

Sure. I've got other things to do than boo hoo about a woman beating, pedophile being sent to Kang Colby Jul 2016 #73

Then you can leave now. No need to stick around if you are so busy. kwassa Jul 2016 #76

He decided to wrestle with cops while carrying an illegal gun. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #77

He decided to wrestle with cops? How do you know? kwassa Jul 2016 #84

And he was shot in the back. He was obviously fighting and wrestling white laying on his uppityperson Jul 2016 #98

Please do not take offense. LokiandMala Jul 2016 #175

The second, closer one, shows he also was on his stomach. I may be wrong, but that's uppityperson Jul 2016 #183

The illegal gun part is prima facie. AtheistCrusader Jul 2016 #173

How is it irrelevant npk Jul 2016 #113

You don' care about due process if someone has a record? It's ok to shoot someone in the back many t uppityperson Jul 2016 #86

Oh, I care about due process. He had many, many opportunities at due process. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #90

Every witness except the cops say he didn't threaten anyone. He hardly fought a cop, was instead sh uppityperson Jul 2016 #97

I watched the video. I see a man on the ground refusing to cooperate while carrying an illegal Kang Colby Jul 2016 #99

Shooting him multiple times in the back is "self defense"? Bull. uppityperson Jul 2016 #100

They shoot to stop the threat. He was an armed man with a history of violence. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #101

I don't care about your sympathy or not. I care about the justice process. kwassa Jul 2016 #102

Let's wait for the facts. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #103

You don't know this, either. Pure supposition. kwassa Jul 2016 #104

Why bother - you didn't anigbrowl Jul 2016 #121

Sex offenders are just irresponsible? Kang Colby Jul 2016 #122

Sex offenders are not a monolithic block anigbrowl Jul 2016 #124

Take your right wing taking points to free republic. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #142

I'm not weepy, either. Act_of_Reparation Jul 2016 #148

He was on the ground not moving. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #139

you are heaven05 Jul 2016 #155

I agree, heaven05 SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #169

I am loosing hope as well.... Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #170

So they knew this before shooting him? tia uponit7771 Jul 2016 #134

Well, no.nt liberalnarb Jul 2016 #138

Completely meaningless! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #168

How much more of this murderous behavior are cops going to get away with without repercussion? lonestarnot Jul 2016 #72

Look at the thread above you SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #96

They executed him rockfordfile Jul 2016 #75

That new video? Holy shit. The first one was bad, the second, words fail me. Fuck. uppityperson Jul 2016 #78

I'm hip !!! The first one you could just hear the girl scream and cry ... I haven't even watched the uponit7771 Jul 2016 #144

I can't go to the sewer SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #88

Look no further. Theres been lots of victim blaming on DU. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #91

I had to put them on ignore after the last go-round SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #182

See? Heres one. liberalnarb Jul 2016 #92

That sucks SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #93

No. n/t liberalnarb Jul 2016 #94

It makes it self defense. n/t Kang Colby Jul 2016 #105

Bullshit SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #107

How? tia uponit7771 Jul 2016 #140

Woah... Calculating Jul 2016 #118

+1, he wasn't even they guy they were looking for... store clerk said it wasn't him that the police uponit7771 Jul 2016 #143

Yes, he was oberliner Jul 2016 #200

Three things I am sick of... Doodley Jul 2016 #119

+1, They have to justify evil otherwise they'd have to report on it uponit7771 Jul 2016 #141

Me too, just one addition to that list Bettie Jul 2016 #150

That's a cold-blooded execution. Odin2005 Jul 2016 #146

This is murder pure and simple! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #163

Anyone see a gun? How do we know he was holding a gun? IronLionZion Jul 2016 #165

Not only should the police involved be charged with muder, something is terribly still_one Jul 2016 #176

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #202