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21. Thanks for posting that.
Mon Jul 4, 2016, 06:46 AM
Jul 2016

Last edited Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:23 AM - Edit history (1)

I was surprised that this movie even acknowledged the class aspect of the Civil War. The Confederacy was rotten from top to bottom, explicitly benefiting only the wealthy whose wealth and means of production were land and human beings. The scenes of the Confederate quartermasters seizing the corn and pigs of white farmers to fuel its racist army were eye-opening.

It sounds like Blow was describing the movie Glory

The director did not take this movie lightly:

There is evidence that Newt Knight came from a family that opposed the slavocracy on ideological as well as economic grounds. His father had turned down the gift of a slave when he got married, and his declining the economic advantage is telling. Other relatives directly refer to the family’s ideological opposition to slavery. 4.1 Like many yeoman farmers, Newt resented a war in which he felt he was fighting to make the rich richer. 4.2

As the war continued, class divisions were exacerbated and became increasingly hard to ignore. Even the common soldier was known to express anger at the planter class and the cotton economy of the slavocracy. In the film, Newt sarcastically goads Sumrall when he claims they are fighting for honor: “Well, that’s good, Will, 'cause I’d sure hate to be fighting for cotton.” It was hardly a rare sentiment. 4.3

Threatened with the draft, Newt served in the Confederate Army but refused to fight. As he said “I didn’t want to fight. I told 'em I’d help nurse sick soldiers if they wanted.”

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"Free State of Jones" [View all] rug Jul 2016 OP
I'm looking forward to seeing it. In_The_Wind Jul 2016 #1
Best movie I've seen in a long time. rug Jul 2016 #2
My conservative brother in law is a grand (to some level) nephew of Newton Knight. Thor_MN Jul 2016 #3
Wow, he should read up on his uncle, not to mention what else was going in the county then. rug Jul 2016 #4
Perhaps he should do a dna test to see his genetic makeup. TexasProgresive Jul 2016 #5
Read somewhere white people from the south have on average 9% applegrove Jul 2016 #17
Smithsonian article on the history and the film csziggy Jul 2016 #6
Bookmarked! rug Jul 2016 #7
Because they have to teach about the great Newt Gingrich... at least they do in Texas. Hoppy Jul 2016 #8
Considering my American History teacher, I'm not surpirsed csziggy Jul 2016 #13
My goodness, where did you go to school? DawgHouse Jul 2016 #16
Polk County, Florida csziggy Jul 2016 #19
Snap! LOL, I should read all the way through the thread before popping off Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #18
There were also Unionist enclaves in North Alabama, East Tennessee, and elsewhere nt Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #20
"What if you could have slavery, the Civil War, Reconstruction, black pain, black murder, Brickbat Jul 2016 #9
Watch Ijeoma Oluo write for a hipster magazine in Seattle. rug Jul 2016 #10
PLUS Matthew McConaughey! Brickbat Jul 2016 #11
He was just the vehicle to tell an astounding story. (The $65MM budget needed some insurance.) rug Jul 2016 #12
just damn AntiBank Jul 2016 #26
"ijeoma oluo writer. speaker. internet yeller" rug Jul 2016 #30
She complains but Henry Gates, the Legal Defense Fund, Andrew Young, etc. have all praised the movie MinnieBlum Jul 2016 #36
Walsh of the World Socialist Web MinnieBlum Jul 2016 #14
Thanks for posting that. rug Jul 2016 #21
Or Blow wanted it to be 12 Years a Slave MinnieBlum Jul 2016 #37
Smithsonian had a great piece on this subject last March Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #15
Thanks. There's so much backgrond to this. rug Jul 2016 #22
The director has a website that compares scenes in the movie to the historical record. rug Jul 2016 #23
A bit late to the discussion but hey TexasProgresive Jul 2016 #24
That's great stuff. rug Jul 2016 #25
Most people that even think about the Civil War are extremely polarized in the same camps. TexasProgresive Jul 2016 #29
Saw it last Saturday rogerashton Jul 2016 #27
Thanks for that perspective. rug Jul 2016 #33
Listened to the book on tape underpants Jul 2016 #28
Don't forget the website he made about it. It's even footnoted. rug Jul 2016 #31
Wow that's impressive. When I listened to the book I remeber reading reviews of it underpants Jul 2016 #32
When I moved from Baton Rouge to upstate New York, rogerashton Jul 2016 #34
I had never heard of that underpants Jul 2016 #35
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