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jack_krass

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57. We stuck around in Japan and rebuilt the country

Sat Jul 2, 2016, 03:21 AM

Jul 2016

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Libya, we bombed and bailed, leaving a power vaccuum which was filled by the strongest, boldest survivors.

Libya is a textbook example of failed intervention*

*not to be interpreted as critical of HRC

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No one calls these attacks "blowback" [View all] SHRED Jun 2016 OP

If a Christians kills an abortionist, it is attributed to the killer's "radical Christianity?" merrily Jun 2016 #1

I submit that "radical Islam" is a symptom SHRED Jun 2016 #2

No, it is a late 18h century doctrine elljay Jun 2016 #4

These facts are too-often overlooked by the Left. Nicely summarized. nt appal_jack Jun 2016 #6

Well said. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #10

You also just effectively described dbackjon Jun 2016 #12

Yes elljay Jun 2016 #13

Bingo. n/t Aerows Jul 2016 #54

Sorry... TipTok Jul 2016 #59

I don't believe that comparison works Orrex Jun 2016 #22

+1,000 malaise Jun 2016 #24

The point is whether a violent act is labeled with the religion of the violent actor. merrily Jul 2016 #36

I don't see that as the point Orrex Jul 2016 #37

It was my point. merrily Jul 2016 #38

Sorry... My phone doesn't show the posters in the whole thread-view Orrex Jul 2016 #39

Reply 1 was inaccurate? um, ok. nt merrily Jul 2016 #40

well, no. Orrex Jul 2016 #48

um, ok nt merrily Jul 2016 #56

All I know is if somethings not done it will be a way of life for everyone yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #3

Oceania billhicks76 Jun 2016 #5

Precisely malaise Jun 2016 #7

Or not. Bonx Jul 2016 #41

Turkey was a US based Junta for decades... joshcryer Jun 2016 #8

Making excuses for terrorists is what's sick. pintobean Jun 2016 #9

I had a similar thought. NaturalHigh Jun 2016 #11

Yes gratuitous Jun 2016 #15

I would be totally sympathetic to Iraqis calling us terrorists. I would even say they'd be Coventina Jun 2016 #16

My understanding is that the good folks in Islamic State that we're arming so efficiently gratuitous Jun 2016 #17

I am firmly in favor of bringing war-crimes charges against Bushco. Coventina Jun 2016 #18

Viceroy L. Paul Bremer arbitrarily disbanded, i.e. fired, the entire KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #58

Right... SHRED Jun 2016 #19

to dismiss analysis as making excuses is to perpetuate a horrible status quo unblock Jun 2016 #26

As a poster below said pintobean Jun 2016 #27

people aren't always aware of what motivates them. unblock Jun 2016 #31

Why don't you tell the OP about dismissive ridicule. pintobean Jun 2016 #33

guess you're right. we're saints and nothing we ever did could possibly have anything to do with it unblock Jun 2016 #35

Screw that. If all they did was attack Western powers, I'd buy it. But a doctrine that represses Coventina Jun 2016 #14

The USA destroyed Iraq, a secular nation where Christians, Shiites, bvar22 Jun 2016 #29

Yep, because after we "shocked & awed" Japan, they started killing their LGBTQ too! Coventina Jul 2016 #42

We stuck around in Japan and rebuilt the country jack_krass Jul 2016 #57

Vietnam was also a failed intervention. But they don't have public stoning or beheading. Coventina Jul 2016 #63

I was wondering when I'd see the first Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #20

I don't get it SHRED Jun 2016 #21

They don't want to get it malaise Jun 2016 #25

I swear, this is the left's version of 'guns don't kill people'. Marr Jun 2016 #23

Any excuse to attack the Left. Calling ISIS terror blowback isn't an effort to excuse it. leveymg Jun 2016 #28

I don't tend to 'attack the left', because I'm very much on the left. Marr Jun 2016 #30

You seem to believe Muslims are a monolith. They've been divided among themselves leveymg Jun 2016 #34

And you seem to believe they're all little children. Marr Jul 2016 #45

No, I believe they, like us, have some whose power, prestige, wealth are based on war & destruction leveymg Jul 2016 #46

I never called for a 'clash of civilizations'-- just an honest appraisal of why the killers kill. Marr Jul 2016 #50

They are like us. No better or worse. Just at a different step along the same path leveymg Jul 2016 #52

There's a reason the Islamic world hasn't gone through an Enlightment period. Marr Jul 2016 #53

... trotsky Jul 2016 #44

This post says it all. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #62

Chalmers Johnson on Blowback (this lecture is pre 9-11, btw) AntiBank Jun 2016 #32

What did Turkey do to be attacked? n/t trotsky Jul 2016 #43

Stopped letting ISIS use their country as a conduit to Europe NT Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #60

Well how dare they! trotsky Jul 2016 #64

So how do you explain leftynyc Jul 2016 #47

Gotta wonder what Bangladesh did to the poor terrorists pintobean Jul 2016 #49

But then they lose the moral high ground or victim status treestar Jul 2016 #51

Fuckin' A. You nailed that. JEB Jul 2016 #55

Some of the things we've done in the ME have allowed ISIS and kindred groups to fester Ex Lurker Jul 2016 #61

Change needs to come from within Calculating Jul 2016 #65