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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts) Wed Jun 29, 2016, 09:03 AM Jun 2016

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After 12 years and almost 20,000 posts it's time to move away. [View all]

To paraphrase Heraclitus, "No man steps in the same DU twice. It's not the same DU, and he's not the same man."

This is not the DU I joined over a decade ago, and I'm not the same man.

I no longer believe that party politics (or politics of any sort for that matter) has anything to offer against the underlying existential threat of our time, the destruction of the global biosphere. After 10 years of research into the root causes of this catastrophe I have come to the realization that the best politics can do is amplify the global breakdown.

It's been a slice, folks.

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After 12 years and almost 20,000 posts it's time to move away. [View all] GliderGuider Jun 2016 OP

Best wishes. /nt think Jun 2016 #1

Farewell, literally and figuratively. I recently concluded that issue by issue is a good approach. merrily Jun 2016 #2

To paraphrase LBJ Xipe Totec Jun 2016 #3

+1,000! nt MADem Jun 2016 #23

i like that kpete Jun 2016 #25

LBJ had such a way with words! PJMcK Jun 2016 #30

Thanks for the reminders, guys. This is just part of Hortensis Jun 2016 #39

At the moment, the DU "tent" seems full of people inside the tent pissing inside the tent. n/t TygrBright Jun 2016 #44

+1 appalachiablue Jun 2016 #71

Isn't that the damn truth Scootaloo Jun 2016 #76

+2 ReRe Jun 2016 #136

Walked right into that one, didn't they? Hissyspit Jun 2016 #161

"Like making love to a skunk: I've enjoyed this about as much as I stand." Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #52

The kind of pissing I'd like to do would get me kicked out of this tent anyway. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #65

So you're not going out in a blaze of glory huh. 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #72

This reminds me of Benders Funeral Xipe Totec Jun 2016 #73

LOL, surely there must be someone here... FSogol Jun 2016 #94

Join the crowd GG The Blue Flower Jun 2016 #106

Hmm StrictlyRockers Jun 2016 #119

Question scottie10 Jun 2016 #130

+1! tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #103

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Safe soaring to you. cloudbase Jun 2016 #4

+1 GliderGuider Jun 2016 #67

8 knot thermals! In my dreams. calikid Jun 2016 #96

Well, just guessing from your user name cloudbase Jun 2016 #98

Yep calikid Jun 2016 #99

I've seen consistent 8kt thermals only once GliderGuider Jun 2016 #114

I'm thinking I'd have my hand on the spoilers most of that time with bases at that height calikid Jun 2016 #142

Good luck Bok_Tukalo Jun 2016 #5

Grim outlook. Man is a political animal. redstateblues Jun 2016 #6

Sorry to hear this, although I think I can relate. MH1 Jun 2016 #7

My web site (not a blog) is now moribund. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #9

Thanks for the FB heads up. Duppers Jun 2016 #58

Thanks GG. MH1 Jun 2016 #125

Paul I hate to see you go madokie Jun 2016 #8

FB only for me from now on. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #10

I am certainly also one of those who got what you were trying to say. Indeed, what you have... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #18

I too am a frequent follower. Sorry to see you go. immoderate Jun 2016 #70

I want to second your post, madokie, especially the first paragraph, lol. nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #17

This is true for me, too. emmadoggy Jun 2016 #34

Yes. Perhaps I should have responded more often. Hortensis Jun 2016 #45

Facebook is terrifying. hunter Jun 2016 #11

So is DU these days. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #12

If not "party politics", then what? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #13

Bye. Indydem Jun 2016 #14

Noooo! This sucks! ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #15

Good luck, whatever happens. If you change your mind, closeupready Jun 2016 #16

Ow. Losing any DU'er who is an environmentalist... Old Crow Jun 2016 #19

Will miss your voice and thoughtful posts. JEB Jun 2016 #20

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Love this!!! Thank You for being brave enough to post it! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #29

It got removed lancer78 Jun 2016 #90

Cali's gone, too? awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #107

yup lancer78 Jun 2016 #126

Could you PM me also what got hidden? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #131

. Iggo Jun 2016 #22

do wish you would reconsider and at least wait until and even 20000 posts dembotoz Jun 2016 #24

Take care and travel safely! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #26

+1. Well said. (N/T) Old Crow Jun 2016 #28

enjoyed your posts - peace GG NoMoreRepugs Jun 2016 #27

I'm truly sorry @ this but you're right, our world is in deep trouble Arazi Jun 2016 #31

Allowing ones self to become "complicit" is a personal choice. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #32

But for years the only choices we have are the ones they give us. The people jtuck004 Jun 2016 #36

Truly sorry to see you leave, but I will read you on Facebook. nt tblue37 Jun 2016 #33

GliderGuider, emmadoggy Jun 2016 #35

Are you still here? Shankapotomus Jun 2016 #37

Absolutely edhopper Jun 2016 #38

indeed! Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #41

Yup. HuckleB Jun 2016 #48

supporting Dems is an important step Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #40

I will miss your posts AwakeAtLast Jun 2016 #42

Well... Adrahil Jun 2016 #43

of course Glider is correct, but does one prefer to watch history unfold or look away in disgust? vkkv Jun 2016 #46

don't want to pick a fight edhopper Jun 2016 #49

I didn't say that.. I agree that no one party is going to save the planet.. vkkv Jun 2016 #54

my mistake edhopper Jun 2016 #55

"Research." HuckleB Jun 2016 #47

I would disagree that Democrats and republicans are the same on environmental policy but pampango Jun 2016 #50

I never ever said they were the same. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #56

That's a shame. I've always found your participation entertaining. FBaggins Jun 2016 #51

Keep beating that drum, man. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #57

Good luck. Things will change, I think for the better. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #53

cheers and good luck. Javaman Jun 2016 #59

At the very least, churned. HubertHeaver Jun 2016 #66

Where will you go? KPN Jun 2016 #60

FB GliderGuider Jun 2016 #63

but don't you see? the DNC's refusal to accept any goals or planks on AGW MisterP Jun 2016 #61

Well you aren't alone in your worries about lack of action n2doc Jun 2016 #62

Hat tip for line spoken by Amy Matigan's character in "Streets of Fire" TonyPDX Jun 2016 #64

Bye!!! Lyric Jun 2016 #68

. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #69

Will you at least stick around the Environment/Energy board? You contribute a lot there. StevieM Jun 2016 #74

A first for me Boomer Jun 2016 #75

2016 is a shit year. joshcryer Jun 2016 #77

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We had hope... GliderGuider Jun 2016 #82

No chance? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #87

Find some peace wherever you can. CRH Jun 2016 #79

Buh-bye... null_bock Jun 2016 #80

I say gooodbye, GliderGuider Jun 2016 #81

Safe travels Hekate Jun 2016 #83

I share your profound sadness about this election and climate change riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #84

I think you're right. HassleCat Jun 2016 #85

You've been one of the good ones, imho. DU will be worse off without you. Electric Monk Jun 2016 #86

I've appreciated a lot of your posts and input. You'll be missed by many here and liberalla Jun 2016 #88

See you on Fb. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #89

But please stay engaged and help shove the Dem Party leftward... Shebear Jun 2016 #91

It's too sad watching great DUers depart malaise Jun 2016 #92

Too many in politics are focused on commerce. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2016 #93

Take care of your goodness, greyl Jun 2016 #95

Yes! villager Jun 2016 #101

Good Luck GG calikid Jun 2016 #97

To everything there is a season. rug Jun 2016 #100

"Flowers in the Sky" Donkees Jun 2016 #102

Damn it. StoneCarver Jun 2016 #104

Ten years and 20,000 posts is a great run and a demonstration of true committment lapucelle Jun 2016 #105

Once a week or so I wonder why I hang around here myself. Binkie The Clown Jun 2016 #108

Be well A Little Weird Jun 2016 #109

If you don't understand that we are fighting Hitler louis c Jun 2016 #110

And biosphere collapse is the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #111

It's not about Hillary, and it's not about Trump... Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #112

louis c, you should wake up and smell respect, ... CRH Jun 2016 #118

I've been here since 2004 louis c Jun 2016 #163

Trump changes his stripes, he was more left leaning years ago, but bottom line he has a Congress slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #129

Will miss you... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #113

I'll miss you freedom fighter jh Jun 2016 #115

Bye, Felicia bigwillq Jun 2016 #116

The two party system has to go. They represent nothing but the same ole same ole. YOHABLO Jun 2016 #117

Wow. Ouch. mahina Jun 2016 #120

Mahalo! nt GliderGuider Jun 2016 #121

Bye. It's sometimes been a pleasure to chat, even if I really don't buy into to that "nothing... NNadir Jun 2016 #122

Sorry to see you go. ozone_man Jun 2016 #123

Dear GliderGuider, you are one of the true treasures of DU. scarletwoman Jun 2016 #124

If there's an apolitical way to solve that problem, Tal Vez Jun 2016 #127

Party politics ultimately keeps people 'in line' with their own wishes, it is done by both main slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #128

GG, that all depends how you define "politics" Martin Eden Jun 2016 #132

IMO GliderGuider Jun 2016 #134

Thanks for the explanation Martin Eden Jun 2016 #135

Behaving in groups is our downfall, we should not be programmed to back candidates that ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #140

LOL we had that happen in a campsite as well arikara Jun 2016 #145

Not opposed to people and making new friends :) but no reason to crowd our site ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #146

You got it. GliderGuider Jun 2016 #149

Peer pressure in grade school that escalates into adulthood ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #153

It's been a *long* time (years) coming for a GBCW forum/group. UTUSN Jun 2016 #137

For us older folks and we are still waiting for the dawn ... slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #139

Adios, mi amigo. ReRe Jun 2016 #138

Your leaving DU because of destruction of the global biosphere? frankieallen Jun 2016 #141

That's more like it! GliderGuider Jun 2016 #143

Tradition, schmadition. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #144

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2016 #147

We need those like you here to keep us informed Rhiannon12866 Jun 2016 #148

The party is clearly more liberal than it was a decade ago BainsBane Jun 2016 #150

^^ This post is bull$#!7 PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #160

Adios! A bientot! Ciao! Peace! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #151

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"I will never support Hillary ever" obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #155

lolz obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #156

So long and thanks for all the fish! N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2016 #157

I hear ya, bud. True words. trof Jun 2016 #158

Well, good-bye. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #159

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