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42. K&R nt

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The 1950's were not all that great and they are not coming back [View all] Peacetrain Jun 2016 OP

This needs to be written on a tablet of bronze (nt) Recursion Jun 2016 #1

+1000 JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #2

Everyone is talking economic yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #41

And it was false then Recursion Jun 2016 #45

And having the same government investment in education and infrastructure tk2kewl Jun 2016 #79

It wouldn't push wages up Recursion Jun 2016 #80

I think large investments in transportation, energy and communications infrastructure tk2kewl Jun 2016 #81

I don't, though I think they'd be absolute goods on their own Recursion Jun 2016 #84

Shorter term... More jobs will boost wages tk2kewl Jun 2016 #96

Great point Recursion Jun 2016 #97

I've never understood the nostalgia for the 1950s cagefreesoylentgreen Jun 2016 #3

I grew up in the 50s - black and white TV was perfect rurallib Jun 2016 #11

1950s = Pleasantville 99th_Monkey Jun 2016 #24

That movie came to mind as well genxlib Jun 2016 #34

And network news was straight news without heavy bias. floriduck Jun 2016 #28

ITA, raccoon Jun 2016 #73

"When the world and I were young, Just yesterday..." lastlib Jun 2016 #93

I grew up in the '50s madokie Jun 2016 #105

Not to mention 1950's diseases like polio, measles, etc. Childhood leukemia was a death sentence. SharonAnn Jun 2016 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #4

They were awesome for straight white men. Women not so much. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #6

I thought I heard that women Urchin Jun 2016 #23

Do you have a link to back your statement? lunatica Jun 2016 #26

YES! brush Jun 2016 #29

You can find it Urchin Jun 2016 #103

I didn't realize this was such a big secret Urchin Jun 2016 #102

It's not that it's a secret or not lunatica Jun 2016 #107

Do you usually just believe things you thought you heard? Mariana Jun 2016 #63

Look for my reply to lunatica Urchin Jun 2016 #104

White straight men. Gay people were considered mentally ill in the 1950s. yardwork Jun 2016 #37

Yikes,of course you're right. I'll edit. nt sufrommich Jun 2016 #48

No problem. I knew it wasn't an intentional oversight. yardwork Jun 2016 #51

It was unintentional,but I like to be historically accurate. sufrommich Jun 2016 #52

Yes. There was never a time that women spooky3 Jun 2016 #90

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #25

Bingo! "Racism...that's the basis of the nostalgia." Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #67

Rec - because JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #7

My son is a Middle Milleanial.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #9

You are probably my mom's contemporary JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #13

It's not The Bomb and White Citizens Councils that people miss. It's stable jobs with pensions leveymg Jun 2016 #8

Did you read the op? Peacetrain Jun 2016 #10

Did you read his post? We recognize that the jobs are gone. That doesn't mean we can't rhett o rick Jun 2016 #14

Again what the hell are you talking about and to whom? this addressed to the Trumps Peacetrain Jun 2016 #18

It's pretty clear that this is more than Johnson and Trump. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #54

But the service jobs of today Freddie Jun 2016 #15

The service jobs of today are demeaned.. Peacetrain Jun 2016 #21

Yes. But, the "'50s type job" (full benefits) and a generous social net is still worth fighting for leveymg Jun 2016 #16

We should raise the income tax to 90+ percent again Urchin Jun 2016 #31

Hear, hear... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68

Scotland and Northern Ireland call bullshit on your analysis. nt pkdu Jun 2016 #17

How so? Scotland and the Northern Ireland stand to gain by keeping EU membership, even if they have leveymg Jun 2016 #20

Did you even reread your own post?..Scotland and Northern Ireland are just as impacted by income pkdu Jun 2016 #22

The regions of the English Midlands and South are the one that lost industry and jobs. leveymg Jun 2016 #60

+1,000 HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #77

Some stuff was good, some stuff was bad. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #12

We're on our way to 1950s homeownership rates unless something changes! Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #19

I completely disagree Urchin Jun 2016 #27

The '50s were great if you were white and male. POCs and women need not apply back then though. brush Jun 2016 #33

My 2 grandmothers were housewives in the 1950's and were very happy yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #44

Did your grandmothers not want their own careers? How about you? You want to be a housewife? brush Jun 2016 #46

Lol. I'm a dude for one yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #55

Did you ever ask them if they wanted a careeer, instead of assuming, as men often do, . . . brush Jun 2016 #64

Don't expect a cogent reply any time soon. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #69

I guess their husbands didn't beat them. because back then raccoon Jun 2016 #74

I don't get your meaning Urchin Jun 2016 #30

Rates, not percentage increase. Link to Harvard study Yo_Mama Jun 2016 #62

Life was simpler in the 50s bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #32

We have traded Urchin Jun 2016 #36

Cher couldn't do it, and neither can you or anyone else. Nostalgia ain't what it used to be... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #70

The Founders Did it Urchin Jun 2016 #100

I was a teen in the 50's. FlaGranny Jun 2016 #92

"the 50's sound" niyad Jun 2016 #35

Just because something rhymes Urchin Jun 2016 #38

and your point is? niyad Jun 2016 #43

Well done! JTFrog Jun 2016 #91

kristin lems is one of my favourite singer/songwriters. niyad Jun 2016 #98

Unions made the difference in the 50's jg10003 Jun 2016 #39

we need to re-unionize. pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #40

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #42

One minor change to a great post.... fob Jun 2016 #47

There were no internet crimes back then and less terrorism IronLionZion Jun 2016 #49

Born in 68 awoke_in_2003 Jun 2016 #50

The average jobs back then could susport a middle class lifestyle davidn3600 Jun 2016 #53

Middle Class now has Cryptoad Jun 2016 #56

It took a world war and tens of millions of deaths to make it possible for us AZ Progressive Jun 2016 #58

The 50 s rocked maindawg Jun 2016 #57

40% of the workforce, in the private sector, was unionized. One unionized job could support a family demosincebirth Jun 2016 #59

The era of automation is hardly going to be a "great movement". HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #61

Change may not be intrinsically "good" (a value judgment), but it IS inevitable and inexorable. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #71

I dunno, do you have a magical way to consume with no income? HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #76

It is neither good nor bad, it just IS, as the ruling principle of the universe. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #78

Yes, I suppose it's far easier to just wash our hands of the whole upcoming mess . . . HughBeaumont Jun 2016 #83

Couldn't agree more: " We need tangible solutions..." and Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #86

Strom Thurmond SheriffBob Jun 2016 #65

And, THIS IS REALITY. Too many people refuse to look it in the face and deal with it. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #66

Houses were a lot smaller then. houses built in the 50's raccoon Jun 2016 #72

This is neither here nor there, but I came across it again today and like it. betsuni Jun 2016 #75

Some of the best Vehicle designs of all time... ileus Jun 2016 #82

I wasn't "around" for the 50s BUT... leeroysphitz Jun 2016 #85

Interracial Marriage... TNProfessor Jun 2016 #87

On some levels I agree, but with caveats..... LongTomH Jun 2016 #88

"Leave It to Beaver" was not a documentary. Ilsa Jun 2016 #89

... and neither is the EU coming back. Brave New World was Joe Chi Minh Jun 2016 #94

duck and cover and fallout shelters? no thank you dembotoz Jun 2016 #99

Logical fallacy: if industry is so automated brentspeak Jun 2016 #101

It's was about income distribution AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #106