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48. Except if one is willing to commit serious felonies like murder or drug distribution

Thu Jun 23, 2016, 09:13 AM

Jun 2016

Last edited Thu Jun 23, 2016, 04:21 PM - Edit history (1)

then being charged with owning an unregistered gun is not going to be a deterrent. Do you think Adam Lanza gave a shit about gun control laws?

There are three types of people using guns to kill:

1. Suicides.
2. Felons.
3. Crazy mass killers.

Registration is irrelevant to the first two and the third group doesn't care. How exactly is registration going to reduce gun deaths?

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sensible gun control [View all] lancer78 Jun 2016 OP

Is either side going to budge? Reiyuki Jun 2016 #1

just like lancer78 Jun 2016 #4

exactly Reiyuki Jun 2016 #5

Diane Feinstein was a victim of gun violence lapfog_1 Jun 2016 #2

I can see her point of view lancer78 Jun 2016 #3

What if there were virtually no laws against drinking and driving? nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #6

We tried the equivalent to "America, turn them in" I from 1920-1933 Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #7

You saying there are virtually no lows on owning or purchasing a firearm? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #8

The number of laws don't matter, their effect does. baldguy Jun 2016 #10

What laws do you want? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #11

Anything the NRA doesn't like. baldguy Jun 2016 #12

No, what matters is they don't get enforced. Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #14

The terrorist-loving pro-gun lobby doesn't want existing laws enforced. baldguy Jun 2016 #16

The Gun Lobhy has no control over where the DOJ chooses to focus enforcement and prosecutions Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #20

The terrorist-loving gun lobby controls the fascist GOP, the GOP controls Congress, baldguy Jun 2016 #24

Enforcement was just as bad when we controlled Congress and the purse strings Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #32

they are enforced lancer78 Jun 2016 #51

Some are- many are not Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #53

there are many laws lancer78 Jun 2016 #50

Your data is correct, though it is given little credence by the controllers... Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #64

And as with all elites, you can get a gun to carry. And she got one. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #63

I believe that she acually got two. oneshooter Jun 2016 #81

I agree with her, but would not say it out loud. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #77

But tRump has hinted he wants to do that. scscholar Jun 2016 #78

At some point, at some level, that's what it will take. baldguy Jun 2016 #9

What you are pretending is that there is no 2nd Amendment pipoman Jun 2016 #17

Guns remove peoples' civil rights or liberties every day - by killing them. baldguy Jun 2016 #22

Cars remove peoples civil rights or liberties every day - by killing them pipoman Jun 2016 #23

And the car manufacturers lobby & car owners lobby work diligently to make cars safer. baldguy Jun 2016 #26

Your right to drive to the liquor store don't outweigh my right to life... pipoman Jun 2016 #29

No one is asking for perfect safety. Just to make it a little less stupidly dangerous. baldguy Jun 2016 #31

Just another fantasy pipoman Jun 2016 #37

your 95% figure is hypothetical, right? maxsolomon Jun 2016 #56

Nonsense pipoman Jun 2016 #66

Nonsense like your 95% guess? Or nonsense like your 1st paragraph? maxsolomon Jun 2016 #73

The family of my childhood friend's parents had no idea he would hang himself either.. pipoman Jun 2016 #83

well, let's just disappear every gun tomorrow then and we'll observe the effect on the suicide rate maxsolomon Jun 2016 #87

From your link pipoman Jun 2016 #86

Yes lancer78 Jun 2016 #91

And they preserve civil rights every day too by protecting people Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #25

Guns harm many more people than they protect. baldguy Jun 2016 #28

False memes don't help pipoman Jun 2016 #30

Why don't we have the CDC do a study? baldguy Jun 2016 #33

There are plenty of studies and they are usually completed pipoman Jun 2016 #40

Criminologists do studies all the time Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #42

and yet RKBAs 'parrot' Kleck's BS 2.5 million DGU/year number to justify their fears maxsolomon Jun 2016 #57

+1. Jeeesus, George Zimmerman murdering Trayvon Martin is considered a Defensive Gun Use Hoyt Jun 2016 #82

The CDC did a study on defensive gun use in 2013 at the direction of President Obama hack89 Jun 2016 #44

Even the anti-gun VPC doesn't deny it. beevul Jun 2016 #74

You know that meme about a gun in the home being more likely to harm was long ago discredited, right Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #41

I'd suggest skipping going to the grocery store or mall then. You'll find that you have a higher Waldorf Jun 2016 #85

Those words have been shown every time someone says "nobody is going to take your guns" Lee-Lee Jun 2016 #13

It worked for Australia. Vinca Jun 2016 #15

Australia doesn't have the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. pipoman Jun 2016 #18

It seems that makes them lucky. They don't have mass shootings anymore. Vinca Jun 2016 #19

Nothing changed. Exactly the same people could buy then as now. pipoman Jun 2016 #21

Yes they do; they've had 3 since the new law Recursion Jun 2016 #27

memes like gun control=the loss of civil liberties? Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #35

That's one I don't like either; I want 100% gun registration (or failing that at least for handguns) Recursion Jun 2016 #39

Felons and all others who can't legally own guns can't be required to register their guns. hack89 Jun 2016 #45

And then they can be jailed for having unregistered guns Recursion Jun 2016 #47

Except if one is willing to commit serious felonies like murder or drug distribution hack89 Jun 2016 #48

Yes,it's the democrats who are responsible for the lack sufrommich Jun 2016 #34

you might like to see this: post #11 Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #38

Of course DiFi was talking about "assault weapons", I bet she still says the same thing. jmg257 Jun 2016 #36

THE DU GUN ENTHUSIASTS ARISE!!!!!!! Paladin Jun 2016 #43

Actually, the NRA gets more mileage out of Diane Feinstein hack89 Jun 2016 #46

Gun love is disgusting, like smoking. It ought to be treated as a public health hazard. hunter Jun 2016 #49

Hey hunter, the NRA is known for paying royalties for anti-gun cartoons for republishing. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #68

What does the bad guy living in your head look like? hunter Jun 2016 #75

Heh, you make light of that "dark side" philosophers have discussed for milinia. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #80

And, the "cure for the disease" is??? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #52

Doing something about lancer78 Jun 2016 #90

turning them all in IS sensible gun control mwrguy Jun 2016 #54

And unrealistic. nt hack89 Jun 2016 #55

Chuckles, is that you? LWolf Jun 2016 #58

No need to take guns from anyone or pass laws that ban any of them XRubicon Jun 2016 #59

"if you have the money you can buy one." How classist- and unconstitutional friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #60

Nope. XRubicon Jun 2016 #61

Your clever plan has already been tried, and was blocked by way of printer's ink: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #62

Ever hear of the 1934 NFA? XRubicon Jun 2016 #65

Calling something an "NRA talking point" is a knee-jerk retort, not a counterargument friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #67

1. Easy to pass a tax law XRubicon Jun 2016 #69

With tens of millions of gun owners implacably opposed to it? Not very likely. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #72

Not sure you are keeping up with current events. XRubicon Jun 2016 #76

"Moral panic"- /ˈmôrəl/ /ˈpanik/ friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #89

Hell, noting a big drop in "gun crime" is an NRAtalkingPoint®. Eleanors38 Jun 2016 #70

I've seen that happen when the FBI's Uniform Crime Reports showed that inconvenient truth friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #71

guess what? eventually, like the color of everybody's skin becoming cocoa-like, Gabi Hayes Jun 2016 #79

Was that intended to reply to the post I made? friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #88

Feinstein was correct Matrosov Jun 2016 #84