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elljay

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64. Only if you don't understanding the meaning of the word

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:01 AM

Jun 2016

So tired of this false. Genocide is the complete destruction of an ethnic group. You may not like Israeli policies ( I don't) but the entire total of deaths on both sides, including Israelis, Palestinians, Syrians, Egyptians, Jordanians, Iraqis for the past century of conflict is around 100,000. Considering the large and continuing increase in Palestinian population over that time, it is not anywhere near a genocide. Facts are important.

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We can't have healthcare for all yet we'll give $40 billion to Israel [View all] Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 OP

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #1

Many of us though Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #5

Bibi dissed the President of the United States so... 63splitwindow Jun 2016 #32

we are funding slow terrorism swhisper1 Jun 2016 #7

Then the Israelis, who've saved $40 billion on defense, are able to afford universal health care... Journeyman Jun 2016 #2

so Israelis can have universal healthcare and we can't? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #10

As I say, quite the scam . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #22

Pays for most safeinOhio Jun 2016 #34

In answer to your question, Rosa -- they almost get free higher education . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #57

I recall when Nixon initialed an agreement that basically Bohunk68 Jun 2016 #58

we cant have healthcare for all which bernie wants because he gives billions to the MIC. lots of msongs Jun 2016 #3

Wait, you're trying to blame Bernie? Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #67

We have been giving money to both Israel and Egypt Raastan Jun 2016 #4

does it? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #8

Really? Raastan Jun 2016 #11

it's ridiculous Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #12

Are you saying Israel would launch a first-strike nuclear attack? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #53

I certainly hope not Raastan Jun 2016 #85

Keeps the peace? SomethingFishy Jun 2016 #13

Peace between Israel and Egypt and other Arab nations Raastan Jun 2016 #15

Part of this "gift" Plucketeer Jun 2016 #42

??? What the H@$l are you talking about??? Raastan Jun 2016 #86

Yes, but this is an additional gift beyond the agreed annual amount in the Camp David Accords Scootaloo Jun 2016 #51

We're not actually giving them $40 billion in cash. House of Roberts Jun 2016 #6

$100 billion for the two? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #9

The Saudis pay cash for their hardware. House of Roberts Jun 2016 #16

They want $50 billion now Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #21

Personally, I wouldn't give it to them, House of Roberts Jun 2016 #23

What are we getting in return? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #26

Above the table, House of Roberts Jun 2016 #29

helping wage the battle against??? Saudis, Qatar, Bahrain, etc AntiBank Jun 2016 #69

Its in the State Department budget bhikkhu Jun 2016 #18

I have worked on F-16 boarding ladders, House of Roberts Jun 2016 #19

It varies but generally it's a line item in Commerce, oddly enough Recursion Jun 2016 #46

We will not know how much because of the Black Budget of the DOD. nt Bohunk68 Jun 2016 #59

Nah. House of Roberts Jun 2016 #60

Evidently you are not aware of what the Black Budget is, Bohunk68 Jun 2016 #61

I'm not saying a black budget doesn't exist, House of Roberts Jun 2016 #81

It makes you wonder if we stopped "giving" money for arms to them, along with others in the Ford_Prefect Jun 2016 #14

And, today in America, a DU member has to buy her students all of their schools supplies. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #17

I have to buy paper and ink for the printer as there is no money left Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #20

Thank you for caring. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #25

“Israel constitutes the largest US aircraft carrier" RealAmericanDem Jun 2016 #24

cannot be sunk? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #27

Did Haig have anything to say about friendly fire from that aircraft carrier? A Simple Game Jun 2016 #33

Al Haig? Ahahahahahahahaha. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2016 #50

Everything in your post is wrong, but this is really laughable . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #71

Draconian cuts are in support funds to the personnel and to things not part of aquisition. haele Jun 2016 #73

I'm a vet, and agree with you here . . FairWinds Jun 2016 #79

To the average soldier or sailor trying to pay the bills and do their job, it's "draconian". haele Jun 2016 #83

Correct me if... zentrum Jun 2016 #28

That's pennies. Cassiopeia Jun 2016 #30

I don't think 1.6% of health care spending would fix healthcare's problems. Festivito Jun 2016 #31

Hmmm Scootaloo Jun 2016 #52

It would be nice to get an itemized accounting for this $40 B. jalan48 Jun 2016 #35

Health care in Israel is universal and participation in a medical insurance plan is compulsory. tabasco Jun 2016 #36

How many of our taxpayers does it take WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2016 #37

It's actually a minuscule amount of the budget oberliner Jun 2016 #39

The question remains. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jun 2016 #80

yes Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #84

They use that money to buy US weapons oberliner Jun 2016 #38

Israel has Universal healthcare (NT) The Wizard Jun 2016 #40

51st state? elmac Jun 2016 #41

What they really are doing is giving the money to Israel so it can buy weapons from US Suppliers Sam_Fields Jun 2016 #43

They may have a rotten government... davidthegnome Jun 2016 #44

Yeah, it's a shitty situation raysefo439 Jun 2016 #45

Canada will spend $50 Billion in 2016 on total government program spending and interest on the Monk06 Jun 2016 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jun 2016 #49

Even so the military aid going to other counties every year is more than the budgets of mediam sized Monk06 Jun 2016 #54

Kick sarcasmo Jun 2016 #48

The Federal Health care budget 2016 is 1.4428 Trillion. rrivers1 Jun 2016 #55

Welcome to DU RobertEarl Jun 2016 #56

Healthcare spending in the US was $3 TRILLION in 2014. hughee99 Jun 2016 #74

Funding Soxfan58 Jun 2016 #62

Only if you don't understanding the meaning of the word elljay Jun 2016 #64

Has genocide ever occurred in modern history, by that definition? Orrex Jun 2016 #76

Yes, attempted genocides elljay Jun 2016 #78

What percentage must be slain before it qualifies as "attempted genocide" in your view? Orrex Jun 2016 #82

It's not exactly giving away; it's in return for Israel buying American weapons and supporting LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #63

It's Expensive to run an Empire muktiman Jun 2016 #65

I totally agree blondie58 Jun 2016 #66

really sickening, IMHO Fast Walker 52 Jun 2016 #68

This is a tragedy considering with our tax dollars coming into their country they have midnight Jun 2016 #70

There's a lot more $ and power to be had from munitions than from healthcare. lark Jun 2016 #72

And now Israel is funding more housing to stop any talks on peace. I have some to believe rladdi Jun 2016 #75

If Isreal was a Muslim nation... Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #77