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25. what a lame comparison

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Sun Jun 19, 2016, 05:22 PM

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"It could have happened to anyone." Mom shares photos of son in spot where gator killed [View all] pnwmom Jun 2016 OP

They were in Disneyland. The only 'gator you expect is a 'croc with a clock' inside . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #1

Exactly. They're paying through the nose for pretend risks, not real ones. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #2

That photo makes the point. period. cali Jun 2016 #3

Right. "No swimming" doesn't mean "watch out for alligators" -- to most people. pnwmom Jun 2016 #4

It sure doesn't to me. I wouldn't have thought twice about cali Jun 2016 #6

The only time I've been in Florida, the mobile home park I was in had a lake in the middle. . . . Journeyman Jun 2016 #11

+1 ffr Jun 2016 #28

don't forget they also truckedin a sandy beach and enticed people to use it with events, like hollysmom Jun 2016 #103

An alligator warning sign would have prevented this, because the parents would not have tblue37 Jun 2016 #19

Possibly true, but Florida's a big state with alligators ffr Jun 2016 #33

And then the snakes, spiders, bears, birds, crocodiles invading the Everglades, poisonous plants, RKP5637 Jun 2016 #68

Good luck convincing the lynch mob on here of that! ffr Jun 2016 #76

and mud instead of the nice sandy beach they put in would have kept the kids out of the water. hollysmom Jun 2016 #104

It was a family resort with a manmade lake and an inviting manmade white sand beach tblue37 Jun 2016 #96

excellent reply, too bad the parent blamers are not replying to it. hollysmom Jun 2016 #106

They apparently do not read any of the posts in the threads they post their tblue37 Jun 2016 #108

Signs only work if people actually bother to read them and even then it's a coin toss cstanleytech Jun 2016 #35

If there had been signs, and the parents had ignored them Mariana Jun 2016 #77

You mean like how Stefaan Van Turnhout obeyed similar signs? cstanleytech Jun 2016 #82

Don't bet on that hobbit709 Jun 2016 #59

History - It could not have happened to me. ffr Jun 2016 #5

You've been to Florida several times. This family from Nebraska hadn't. pnwmom Jun 2016 #7

I'm confused by your analogy. ffr Jun 2016 #12

Well, you're just so much smarter than they are. pnwmom Jun 2016 #14

Don't go ad Hominem on me! ffr Jun 2016 #21

Disney failed in its legal obligation to warn them of a risk that wasn't obvious pnwmom Jun 2016 #27

So does this mean that a resort located right on the beach in Hawaii with its cstanleytech Jun 2016 #37

Sharks are in all the oceans. Alligators are not universal in man made ponds pnwmom Jun 2016 #43

You keep harping on this man-made thing melman Jun 2016 #52

They don't. But many tourists, including this family from Nebraska, pnwmom Jun 2016 #54

So Disney is at fault for people not educating themselves that Florida has alligators? cstanleytech Jun 2016 #55

Disney is at fault for not disclosing a non-obvious risk. nt pnwmom Jun 2016 #58

I agree, in a theme park like Disney, signage should have been there because many people are naive RKP5637 Jun 2016 #70

We've covered this. Alligators are an ambush predator ffr Jun 2016 #74

It is the owner's legal duty to warn guests of of non-obvious dangers pnwmom Jun 2016 #79

Disney is at fault for inviting children to play near lethal wild animals. Doremus Jun 2016 #116

Not necessarily. cstanleytech Jun 2016 #118

Trying to defend the indefensible Doremus Jun 2016 #124

No, merely pointing out that Disney does have a potential defense under the law itself cstanleytech Jun 2016 #125

That argument only works if Disney specifically made a claim to keep out alligators cstanleytech Jun 2016 #53

Disney resort had a legal obligation to disclose any risk that wasn't obvious. pnwmom Jun 2016 #57

Well we will just have to wait and see then, my money is on disney prevailing in the end cstanleytech Jun 2016 #61

I think Disney will want this to be cleared up and will pay. ffr Jun 2016 #75

what's with the lame ass comparisons ? JI7 Jun 2016 #30

what a lame comparison JI7 Jun 2016 #25

I couldn't disagree more. This isn't the Ding Darling Preserve on Sanibel cali Jun 2016 #9

I couldn't disagree with you more ffr Jun 2016 #15

Lots of people are naive. Posting signs that spelled out that there are alligators cali Jun 2016 #23

And the fact that people were warning them shows that it was something many did not expect to see JI7 Jun 2016 #32

But the state parks and national forests in Florida DO post alligator warning signs. pnwmom Jun 2016 #44

Then you're advocating they post signs everywhere ffr Jun 2016 #47

I'm saying at the very least that they should have done what they FINALLY did: pnwmom Jun 2016 #51

If Disney can't handle keeping its customers safe from predatory alligators, blue neen Jun 2016 #80

Amen. WhisCo Jun 2016 #98

Disney apparently already had signs posted. They just didn't say anything about alligators. fishwax Jun 2016 #91

Perfectly stated, and my thought as well. phylny Jun 2016 #97

at this point I have to ask if you are a Disney employee, you seem so hollysmom Jun 2016 #107

I'm sorry, your post doesn't warrant a response. ffr Jun 2016 #109

Disney sells family safe resort. This family wasn't on a swamp tour. Gormy Cuss Jun 2016 #20

Damn right. I don't understand -- at all -- the self-righteous victim blaming going on here ... Hekate Jun 2016 #39

Fallacy ad populum ffr Jun 2016 #71

I have learned from DU's outdoors' culture kentauros Jun 2016 #123

Wrong. They do post signs in Cancun and people have been attacked there. suffragette Jun 2016 #38

So? At least whoever owned that beach warned the visitor of the risk. pnwmom Jun 2016 #46

I'm with you on this. I was countering the other poster's erroneous point. suffragette Jun 2016 #78

Not at Club Med where I've stayed. You could walk right into the lagoon ffr Jun 2016 #50

They should follow the example of elsewhere in Cancun and add them. suffragette Jun 2016 #81

My favorite is, "If attacked, seek immediate medical attention." pangaia Jun 2016 #56

so much self satisfaction going on here. Most people when they go on vacationare trusting the place hollysmom Jun 2016 #105

Smug sense of superiority on full display. Compassion missing completely. CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #122

It didn't just say 'No Swimming' melman Jun 2016 #8

That's not the location in the photos the mother posted. pnwmom Jun 2016 #10

Disney is at fault malaise Jun 2016 #13

I hope not. Disneyland shouldn't need to post signs for biting flies too. ffr Jun 2016 #16

FFS n/t malaise Jun 2016 #18

... ffr Jun 2016 #22

Your reasoning is the kind used by people who wanted to ban warnings on cigarettes. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #31

Define how your analogy fits this argument? ffr Jun 2016 #45

Aren't you special Hekate Jun 2016 #40

You too. ffr Jun 2016 #42

Staying at a resort where you can be eaten Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #66

pointing out the logical fallacies of others, how do you rationalize the two you've made in this on LanternWaste Jun 2016 #99

Which are??? ffr Jun 2016 #100

dude rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #101

Is this your attempt at doing a Straw Man argument? ffr Jun 2016 #111

tell you what we will see how many millions rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #112

Who doesn't appear to know what a Straw Man argument is? ffr Jun 2016 #114

There there my mad bro rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #117

Ad hominum attack on me now ffr Jun 2016 #120

It's spelled "hominem" rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #121

I agree, Disney is at fault Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #65

Here is the actual picture: tblue37 Jun 2016 #17

Looks like alligator habitat to me ffr Jun 2016 #24

Well goody for you Separation Jun 2016 #26

Thanks for the photos. The comments about the "sanctimommies" were good, too. pnwmom Jun 2016 #29

Are there normally alligators in that lagoon? IronLionZion Jun 2016 #34

Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission comment ffr Jun 2016 #41

At the very least, they should have had alligator warning signs instead of pnwmom Jun 2016 #48

No question there and it's not required by law ffr Jun 2016 #62

No. The family that posted the pictures at the OP was a DIFFERENT family. pnwmom Jun 2016 #63

yes Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #69

Following Toddler's Death, New Disney Signs Warn of Alligators IronLionZion Jun 2016 #87

Thanks for posting this. Yes, they were negligent, and they know it. n/t pnwmom Jun 2016 #88

This sign is perfect Quayblue Jun 2016 #90

Some DUers are against posting signs for some reason IronLionZion Jun 2016 #92

I've watched DUers for a while now. Quayblue Jun 2016 #93

That's the best way to keep your sanity around here IronLionZion Jun 2016 #94

Indeed Quayblue Jun 2016 #95

If Disney knew, then they should have signs IronLionZion Jun 2016 #60

You should help them post signs then ffr Jun 2016 #67

I don't understand your position on this IronLionZion Jun 2016 #83

Disney’s policy about warning signs is about to change IronLionZion Jun 2016 #85

The signs include pictures of alligators, which would be understandable pnwmom Jun 2016 #89

Bottom line: Whether you agree that Disney should have posted TheDebbieDee Jun 2016 #36

This family has suffered a terrible wound that will never heal, pnwmom Jun 2016 #49

Agreed. underpants Jun 2016 #64

It's just horrible. They went there to have a good time and instead it was a tragedy. Yes, they will RKP5637 Jun 2016 #72

Same here. Every time I think of it I get unnerved. Also, whenever I'm in Florida, I take a RKP5637 Jun 2016 #73

Same here. I can't stop thinking about it. It is so sad and so horrifyingly awful. tblue37 Jun 2016 #102

All about alligators - highlights from the coloring book for children ffr Jun 2016 #84

Disney should have given that coloring book to all its guests. pnwmom Jun 2016 #86

Gators can move very quickly and the parents were not at fault here Gothmog Jun 2016 #110

Parent shaming aside, how would you have handled the same situation? ffr Jun 2016 #113

I have seen different reports Gothmog Jun 2016 #115

I'll leave this to your deductive thought then ffr Jun 2016 #119