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No Vested Interest

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5. Though the family's identities have not been officially released,

Mon May 30, 2016, 03:04 AM

May 2016

The mother called the child "Isaiah" on video recordings, and the mother's name has been given in comments, and she mentioned the incident on a Facebook posting, apparently now taken down.

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In Gorilla's Death, Critics Blame Mother, Cincinnati Zoo [View all] Purveyor May 2016 OP

Humans react to quickly to anything that is scary. Silver_Witch May 2016 #1

I agree that gorilla wasn't trying to hurt the child. LisaL May 2016 #3

Because of its size - 450 lbs- the gorilla could have easily harmed the child, likely ca 40 lbs, No Vested Interest May 2016 #4

the video clips of the gorilla dragging the boy around weren't posted magical thyme May 2016 #26

The videos are everywhere. There was no dragging! Silver_Witch May 2016 #55

The initial videos released by the media cut out the dragging part, No Vested Interest May 2016 #74

One of the first 911 calls Ms. Yertle May 2016 #42

I'd like the mother charged with involuntary manslaughter yeoman6987 May 2016 #45

Why? Did she kill someone? Orrex May 2016 #72

"People were going crazy and panicking...." mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #50

I saw part of the film and the gorilla did not look like there was any intent of direct RKP5637 May 2016 #76

The gorilla's intent was irrelevant Matrosov May 2016 #86

I don't blame anyone. gwheezie May 2016 #2

I agree, no parent is capable of watching their child 100% of the time Quixote1818 May 2016 #12

when you're at the zoo and your child tells you he intends to go into the pool magical thyme May 2016 #28

Child leashes Ms. Yertle May 2016 #38

agreed. nt magical thyme May 2016 #49

the kid SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A LEASH. trueblue2007 May 2016 #79

Agreed blame is perhaps not the right word, however, the child should not have been still_one May 2016 #13

the boy told his mother he was going into the pool. More than once. magical thyme May 2016 #31

Though the family's identities have not been officially released, No Vested Interest May 2016 #5

Yes, because Gorillas are just dangerous animals Feeling the Bern May 2016 #6

Fuckin' A! Cly May 2016 #17

I suspect if it was your four year old down there, you would feel differently. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #23

MY four year old kid wouldn't have been down there because my wife doesn't like going to zoos Feeling the Bern May 2016 #30

Your inability to imagine situations outside of your limited experience speaks volumes Orrex May 2016 #43

I can imagine having a 4 year old. What I cannot imagine magical thyme May 2016 #81

Tranquilizers aren't instantaneous Orrex May 2016 #27

Glad you support the murder of an animal. All animals in nature are equal, but some are more Feeling the Bern May 2016 #29

Oh, get the over yourself. Orrex May 2016 #36

Keep supporting the murder of animals. Feeling the Bern May 2016 #37

I'll take the killing of an animal SickOfTheOnePct May 2016 #40

Disagree. Jester Messiah May 2016 #58

Careful--someone might mistake your over-the-top hyperbole for an actual argument Orrex May 2016 #61

That's a lie, and you've posted it twice, so I guess that makes you a liar. Orrex May 2016 #41

Oh, honey. Let me speak from some experience. nolabear May 2016 #47

^^Thread win. Orrex May 2016 #48

Ding ding ding. We have a winner. CincyDem May 2016 #53

Thanks. I still have a scar from having a hole punched in my hand by a "tame" mountain lion. nolabear May 2016 #56

Very well said ... brett_jv May 2016 #80

I see nothing wrong with prioritizing a human life over an animal Travis_0004 May 2016 #39

"Murder" is a legal term. Ms. Yertle May 2016 #44

Free clue: Tranq darts don't work like on TV. X_Digger May 2016 #51

That should be the reply to about half of the posts in this thread. Orrex May 2016 #73

I cheer her as well!!! Silver_Witch May 2016 #54

"Humans are too blame for the destruction of this planet...." mahatmakanejeeves May 2016 #85

There's no way the kid should have been able to get into the moat in the first place. Bad Dog May 2016 #7

That is the correct answer in my view still_one May 2016 #14

Thank you. Bad Dog May 2016 #16

Exactly. The enclosure was not designed well enough to exclude a 7yrold? Who Nay May 2016 #25

A track record of success. CincyDem May 2016 #52

I agree. This is really sad. yardwork May 2016 #89

How the hell do you have a zoo enclosure a child can bypass? ArcticFox May 2016 #8

The video of the gorilla violently dragging the boy by the ankle showed the zoo had no choice. SunSeeker May 2016 #9

Link to video rpannier May 2016 #18

There are two different videos floating around firebrand80 May 2016 #19

Thank You rpannier May 2016 #20

It is at the CNN link provided in the OP. Click on the 2:42 video. SunSeeker May 2016 #57

My kid never got arms length from me MFM008 May 2016 #10

Which fast-acting tranquilizer do you have in mind, exactly? Orrex May 2016 #32

Dumbass mother bluestateguy May 2016 #11

I blame the people who go to zoos. Wild animals should not be kept in cages dilby May 2016 #15

If the option is alive in a cage or dead in the back of a poacher's truck... Orrex May 2016 #33

What a false dichotomy that is! Stargleamer May 2016 #59

Sorry, but that's not a false dichotomy. It's a hypothetical. Not the same. Orrex May 2016 #60

it comes across as a false dichotomy when you know damn well Stargleamer May 2016 #65

Again, that's your problem and not mine Orrex May 2016 #69

An explanation Stargleamer May 2016 #75

Perhaps you unfamiliar with "imply" versus "infer" Orrex May 2016 #77

Well, okay then, it’s a preference expressed (disguised?) in a hypothetical format. . . Stargleamer May 2016 #87

I was going to post a blistering, point-for-point reply Orrex May 2016 #88

I have absolutely no doubts.. . Stargleamer May 2016 #90

You're too kind. Orrex Jun 2016 #99

There's the issue with issues like this The2ndWheel May 2016 #62

But consider: Orrex May 2016 #64

Well you were vague in what you were talking about The2ndWheel May 2016 #67

Obviously it depends on the context of the situation Orrex May 2016 #71

Then the zoo matrix needs to do more to protect both gorilla and human The2ndWheel May 2016 #83

The original comment to which I posed that hypothetical... Orrex May 2016 #84

Not everything can be made idiot-proof, but surely a gorilla cage can be made child-proof. (nt) stone space May 2016 #21

Blaming the mother is absurd, unless she boosted the child over the fence on her shoulders. stone space May 2016 #22

Not closely monitoring a four year old who you have brought to a place of danger the child can't Bluenorthwest May 2016 #35

If the child keeps saying I want to go play with the gorillas avebury May 2016 #70

They are called harnesses not leashes. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #96

Its a tragic story all the way around. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #24

Not even a gorilla, that was a chimpanzee. elehhhhna May 2016 #46

Right you are. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #78

Fucking wildlife, why cannot it be mildlife? Rex May 2016 #92

I remember back when i was a wayward young man and was experimenting with the evil weed Warren DeMontague May 2016 #93

That is interesting, that did it for me too. Rex May 2016 #94

Yeah. Funny that. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #95

Why was the boy able to crawl into that enclosure? leftyladyfrommo May 2016 #34

I blame both moondust May 2016 #63

What a nightmare. mnhtnbb May 2016 #66

The mother 100% at fault. avebury May 2016 #68

I 100% agree with you. Boudica the Lyoness May 2016 #97

The zoo is 100% at fault. A four-year old can overcome zoo security? kwassa May 2016 #98

~ In_The_Wind May 2016 #82

You cannot have an opinion on this subject, which is not morally wrong to someone else. Rex May 2016 #91