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ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
22. It's become a pay to play system. Take the money or die.
Sun May 15, 2016, 10:03 PM
May 2016

The Dems just less blatantly than the Republicans.

Then Chomsky can feel free to start his own party that reflects his views. This isn't rocket science Trust Buster May 2016 #1
...or the moderate Republicans can start their own party n/t leftstreet May 2016 #2
We won. You and Chomsky are the ones complaining. Figure it out. Trust Buster May 2016 #4
"you" keep winning lower voter turnout. Some victory n/t leftstreet May 2016 #6
We will not budge. Chomsky and friends need to understand that. Trust Buster May 2016 #7
LOL leftstreet May 2016 #9
The arrogance of those that side with the billionaires. rhett o rick May 2016 #180
Then the D Party will go the way of the Rs, i.e., we will take it over and then KPN May 2016 #129
Stay the course. frylock May 2016 #168
Nope, you will not awoke_in_2003 May 2016 #198
Who won? imagine2015 May 2016 #15
"we?" Are you a moderate republican? cyberswede May 2016 #48
By her answer I assume she is. HooptieWagon May 2016 #59
On the basis of that post and others she's made, yes. closeupready May 2016 #89
Isn't that position SwankyXomb May 2016 #105
It was, until Hillary became the front-runner, more or less. closeupready May 2016 #117
Yes indeed. arikara May 2016 #158
Probably not very moderate. frylock May 2016 #170
Last I checked... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #151
All you won is the probable fracture and destruction of the party and the country. Some win. FighttheFuture May 2016 #166
Yes, moderate Republicans have won. frylock May 2016 #167
"We won" Well, thanks for admitting it Scootaloo May 2016 #174
Don't spend those "winnings," they may be confiscated and your candidate may be shown the door. leveymg May 2016 #178
Hahaha! Bangbangdem May 2016 #188
So I take it you agree with his analysis. imagine2015 May 2016 #11
Glad to see that at least one person acknowledges RoccoR5955 May 2016 #18
And the consequences of that will likely be a choice between floriduck May 2016 #119
And by "coup d'etat" you mean "people elected by Democrats"? brooklynite May 2016 #126
Don't tell us you... ReRe May 2016 #145
WHEN doesn't matter.... brooklynite May 2016 #149
We're doing that right now. :-) eom ReRe May 2016 #154
Not going so well, hmm? brooklynite May 2016 #159
I think Bernie is doing swimmingly. ReRe May 2016 #164
Just because they have been selected in an election RoccoR5955 May 2016 #192
"It can be carried on by lying to the constituents..." brooklynite May 2016 #193
No, I am not saying that I am smarter RoccoR5955 May 2016 #194
Time for loyal center/right Democrats that own the party to throw Chomsky under the bus Feeling the Bern May 2016 #71
+1 for speaking truth. leeroysphitz May 2016 #90
I was planning to just ignore him, as I always do. brooklynite May 2016 #177
Yep. . .party over principle. Join the Party then you can criticize it Feeling the Bern May 2016 #186
In our winner take all Democracy, a third party doesn't have a chance fasttense May 2016 #87
The So called Democrats won the right to rule over the Democratic Party All in it together May 2016 #104
... or the moderate republicans can move back to the republican party arikara May 2016 #156
DURec leftstreet May 2016 #3
given this kind of tripe, Noam Trotsky's place on this board ericson00 May 2016 #5
"Our party"? Do you have as much influence and control as big business and Wall Street in the party imagine2015 May 2016 #12
I think the "Our Party" refers to the elite few who own it. zeemike May 2016 #20
.+1 840high May 2016 #64
Your red-baiting is so last century. And off base, besides. Redwoods Red May 2016 #19
Define "our." As it currently exists, it has left me. nt SusanCalvin May 2016 #27
! Phlem May 2016 #33
"Noam Trotsky"? sylvanus May 2016 #43
You are always true to form, Senator McCarthy. nt villager May 2016 #45
NSA Much? billhicks76 May 2016 #55
give me a break. If a corporatist faction of the Democratic Party AntiBank May 2016 #56
Wow. Alkene May 2016 #88
Nice red-baiting, there. Odin2005 May 2016 #93
Oh FUCK, GET OUT OF THE 1980s, man. HughBeaumont May 2016 #99
He's attacking Republicans who call themselves Democrats. Ikonoklast May 2016 #107
Obama himself said his policies are that of 1980's republicans. arcane1 May 2016 #127
Spoken like a true Republican FauxNews fanatic. KPN May 2016 #130
Erik Erickson posts again on DU. n/t brentspeak May 2016 #152
Yes the ideals of democracy are subordinate to... Beartracks May 2016 #157
He is expressing Truth to Power. I pity you that that concept is so foreign to you. FighttheFuture May 2016 #169
.. frylock May 2016 #171
Wake up and smell the divided "our party". The leadership of "our party" has been rhett o rick May 2016 #185
Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along... coffeeAM May 2016 #8
This video describes it better... Xolodno May 2016 #10
It's about time someone said it. onecaliberal May 2016 #13
A lot of people have been trying to tell and say that or have even many times already said it nolabels May 2016 #38
I've said it many times here as well and yes it's obvious but no one in the media or onecaliberal May 2016 #70
Sort of like when a lot of the younger people told the party we want more than one choice nolabels May 2016 #76
More commonly known as "The Rahm Effect." :-( eom ReRe May 2016 #148
He's 100% right lastone May 2016 #14
Hi11ary is just not an option. chervilant May 2016 #21
I wish I felt I could afford that. SusanCalvin May 2016 #29
Yeah, well, I live in a very Republican state. chervilant May 2016 #68
First time I'm actually glad to reside in a red state. ...I don't have to vote for the flip side of SammyWinstonJack May 2016 #86
Isn't it about integrity of ones self or not to let Trump get the go. Pretty hard decision. bkkyosemite May 2016 #139
Real moderate Repubs would balk at the "Global Cop" wars, however. cprise May 2016 #78
Good point dreamnightwind May 2016 #191
Chomsky is just sore the majority of Democrats are reformists, not ideologues Albertoo May 2016 #16
And according to your chart zeemike May 2016 #23
+1 and it is ironic that Mbrow May 2016 #32
you seem to forget Obama came to power under the great Recession of 2007-8 Albertoo May 2016 #41
That is the fucking attitude that got us here. SkyIsGrey May 2016 #113
That effin attitude is called Obama's common sense Albertoo May 2016 #143
A pretty shitty "recovery"!! FighttheFuture May 2016 #172
Obama did a pretty good job Albertoo May 2016 #187
Today's mainstream Democrats have no interest in fair wages, health care for all or dflprincess May 2016 #30
unfortunately you are spot on nt AntiBank May 2016 #35
Believe me, it doesn't make me happy to say it dflprincess May 2016 #40
You're damn right it can be done. ReRe May 2016 #147
Says who? Albertoo May 2016 #42
Says a lack of action by mainstream Democrats. They don't even talk about these issues dflprincess May 2016 #49
So why did they fight for minimum wage increases and the ACA? CrowCityDem May 2016 #57
Does the ACA go far enough. runaway hero May 2016 #100
The question wasn't whether it 'was enough'... CrowCityDem May 2016 #106
You have to ask for the sky in those types of negotiations. runaway hero May 2016 #108
Pray tell me, how could you get Lieberman, et al, to vote for single payer? The public option? CrowCityDem May 2016 #109
I would have pushed harder for the public option. runaway hero May 2016 #111
In other words, you would have yelled more, and gotten the same result. CrowCityDem May 2016 #114
They fought for the ACA because it was a way to make sure the insurance cartels remain in Gene Debs May 2016 #122
Fight that we can't win? KPN May 2016 #136
Yes, there are fights we can't win. CrowCityDem May 2016 #141
That's the story line both parties have spinned for several decades now KPN May 2016 #199
Do you remember the words "Single payer is off the table?" Doremus May 2016 #155
ACA doesn't help anyone but private insurers Matrosov May 2016 #160
Listen to yourself... CrowCityDem May 2016 #162
Affording coverage is not the same as affording care, as all too many of these feel-good Gene Debs May 2016 #183
Reforming!! sylvanus May 2016 #47
Show me a system working better than capitalist social-democracy Albertoo May 2016 #63
Nope. It's fertilizer redstateblues May 2016 #79
Bullshit. BillZBubb May 2016 #80
Well, would you call Chomsky a mainstream Democrat? Albertoo May 2016 #81
KnR. If MLK, FDR, and Jesus agreed with Chomsky.... chknltl May 2016 #17
FDR believed in capitalism and Jesus is mostly a myth Albertoo May 2016 #46
I rest my case. chknltl May 2016 #51
FDR did not believe in unrestrained capitalism dflprincess May 2016 #52
The Economic Bill of Rights is pretty much what I initially stated Albertoo May 2016 #62
The Economic Bill of Rights is a good deal more than fair wage and health care dflprincess May 2016 #195
We agree on the Economic Bill of Rights, not on Sanders Albertoo May 2016 #197
It's become a pay to play system. Take the money or die. ErikJ May 2016 #22
Double, make that a triple REC for Chomsky! Fuddnik May 2016 #24
I disagree with Chomsky. tomg May 2016 #25
Noam is correct, of course. The Sanders Campaign is the last, best hope to save FDR's Party... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #44
+1,000,000 TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #61
Ha! Grazie... NewImproved Deal May 2016 #153
Brilliant national treasure. nt zentrum May 2016 #28
K&R n/t Joe Shlabotnik May 2016 #31
Anything that stops people from voting for liberal Democrats only helps RW Republicans. baldguy May 2016 #34
If Hillary is the nominee, which liberal democrat should I vote for? Arugula Latte May 2016 #37
Academics study, understand, and explain. They aren't there to lead cheers for "the party.' Ed Suspicious May 2016 #39
What a mouth full of marbles. Phlem May 2016 #110
We legalized gay marriage, marijuana, passed most of a proper health care plan... joshcryer May 2016 #36
Except it was SCrOTUS that legalized gay marriage, truebrit71 May 2016 #50
The dozens of gay marriage challenges were spearheaded by democrats. joshcryer May 2016 #72
The Two Parties gordyfl May 2016 #53
Nader was sure wrong about that. Thank Ralph for Bush/Cheney redstateblues May 2016 #58
Also Thank gordyfl May 2016 #82
Someone HadTo State The Disgusting Truth billhicks76 May 2016 #54
Unfortunately there are many Trump enablers on DU. Sad redstateblues May 2016 #60
You realize "sad" is Trump's favorite tweet-word? hueymahl May 2016 #97
This and other sources would say otherwise. LiberalFighter May 2016 #65
If you disagree with Chomsky, just listen to the President. TIME TO PANIC May 2016 #66
Harry Enten" Hillary Clinton Was Liberal. Hillary Clinton Is Liberal (FiveThirtyEight) LiberalFighter May 2016 #67
Hillary and Bernie are both Liberal LiberalFighter May 2016 #69
Nope elljay May 2016 #163
I really don't give a flip what Chomsky thinks Gman May 2016 #73
Back In the 1800s and Early 1900s, Wasn't Democratic Party Very Racist? TomCADem May 2016 #74
k&r silvershadow May 2016 #75
Chomsky! stopbush May 2016 #77
K & R N/T w0nderer May 2016 #83
Legislators like to pretend we live in a center-right country. That's just not true ... Scuba May 2016 #84
Is Chomsky even registered to vote? BlueMTexpat May 2016 #85
Whether or not he's registered to vote has no bearing on whether his statement is true. But then, Gene Debs May 2016 #124
The republican party of today has moved into the insane asylum, so any thing else Loki May 2016 #91
That's kinda what he's saying, though... UtahJosh May 2016 #94
I'm a Democrat and I don't do labels. Loki May 2016 #95
"I'm a Democrat" and "I don't do labels" hueymahl May 2016 #98
So "Democrat" is a label. Loki May 2016 #102
And yet you label Noam Chomsky a "purist". UtahJosh May 2016 #103
I don't do purity tests either hueymahl May 2016 #116
Can somebody link to this wonderful pre-DLC pre-Clinton platform the DINOS ruined? whatthehey May 2016 #92
K&R.. disillusioned73 May 2016 #96
Overly harsh runaway hero May 2016 #101
Maybe that is my problem c-ville rook May 2016 #120
If you want to address the problem of a "lack of excitement for her," there'll have to be Gene Debs May 2016 #146
In the sense that more republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act in 1964 than Democrats, pampango May 2016 #112
What I've been saying and saying and saying. Everytime I do... Triana May 2016 #115
This message was self-deleted by its author NRaleighLiberal May 2016 #190
Kicked and recommended! nt Enthusiast May 2016 #118
Wow colsohlibgal May 2016 #121
Our country has become a feudal state...We, the Peasants and libdem4life May 2016 #123
Can we ever get through a Chomsky post w/o the words corporatist or neoliberal??? Gomez163 May 2016 #125
Just picture Hillary and you have the definition... Human101948 May 2016 #133
brilliant. Gomez163 May 2016 #135
Thanks! Human101948 May 2016 #138
compared to where conservatives are...I'll take moderate republicans....they are the ones who beachbum bob May 2016 #128
Yes, lets settle for less! KPN May 2016 #137
Tell me something I don't know (oh wait some people don't get it) PatrynXX May 2016 #131
Chomsky is focusing on economics, and he means a moderate GOPer from 1972 andym May 2016 #132
Obama: "back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican" arcane1 May 2016 #134
lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RT_%28TV_network%29 stonecutter357 May 2016 #140
At what point in time were elected Democrats much further left than they are now? n/t hughee99 May 2016 #142
Love Noam libodem May 2016 #144
K&R - Been saying it for years Ferd Berfel May 2016 #150
Chomsky is right on this issue d_legendary1 May 2016 #161
Hillary is not a moderatte. Shae is more to the right than many Republicans INdemo May 2016 #165
Which is why policy SUCKS harun May 2016 #173
We need Chomsky to bring back that old anarcho syndicalist party Progressive dog May 2016 #175
Since he is libertarian leaning himself then he is not a Democrat. Thinkingabout May 2016 #176
Definitely. nt valerief May 2016 #179
Reality Beowulf42 May 2016 #181
Chomsky must read DU felix_numinous May 2016 #182
I understand the corporate influence issue, however, ... HuckleB May 2016 #184
I agree with Chomsky. Which leads me to ask the GOP trolls here wtf they're problem with Hillary is? tenderfoot May 2016 #189
DU member since 2002 WITH the same profile name. nolabels May 2016 #196
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