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Kurska

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70. I find it absolutely perplexing that some humans have a problem with the human body.

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:39 PM

Apr 2016

When I learn that the ultimate source of their discomfort is an invisible man in the sky, I start to wonder to what extent insanity has really permeated society.

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Requiring Wearing A Head Scarf, Burqa, Or Other Body Covering Is NOT Religion But Misogyny. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Apr 2016 OP

It's both. Religion doesn't get a free pass. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #1

+100 Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #2

Is there a religin which isn't misogynistic? mr blur Apr 2016 #11

Well I didn't want to give the religionists a thread-bare argument. Warren Stupidity Apr 2016 #30

Have Lutherans or Episcopalians advocated stoning women to death? JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2016 #88

The Shakers were founded by Ann Lee. rug Apr 2016 #95

For the nuns too??? n/t malaise Apr 2016 #3

That is a choice. Indydem Apr 2016 #9

In Europe and the Americas... Chan790 Apr 2016 #23

A lot of assumptions there. Indydem Apr 2016 #28

Thank you. n/t whathehell Apr 2016 #39

+1000, Chan790. Hortensis Apr 2016 #32

No. No you don't. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #49

Me, yes. But I'm talking about Muslim women. Hortensis Apr 2016 #54

Are you familiar with the concept 'duress'? AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #58

We all must decide our own attitudes Hortensis Apr 2016 #67

Indeed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #85

If all of the women in a particular group of Muslims, let's say SheilaT Apr 2016 #56

I am curious what you are basing this on? etherealtruth Apr 2016 #90

If you can't understand the difference between an optional religious order Kurska Apr 2016 #15

It's excusable because it's misogyny-lite? cleanhippie Apr 2016 #17

I said it was silly and foolish. I'd rather it not be a thing. Kurska Apr 2016 #19

I don't disagree with you. cleanhippie Apr 2016 #20

Nuns in America, at least, modernized their whathehell Apr 2016 #41

Mandatory social edict? a la izquierda Apr 2016 #55

I'm not talking about all western Muslims. Kurska Apr 2016 #59

They live in Turkey. Nt a la izquierda Apr 2016 #61

And? Kurska Apr 2016 #63

Absolutely. Christianity is Misogynic. Nuns are but one great example of it in Catholocism. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2016 #26

Hilarious... I know two nuns in two different orders. whathehell Apr 2016 #42

Remember the last time a nun got stoned to death or beheaded for not covering her head? Oneironaut Apr 2016 #73

Whatever. We all will be starving soon enough to worry about it much. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #4

Or paying Nestle for your bottled water. gordianot Apr 2016 #5

Exactly. Wonder when they will wake up to the simple fact Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #7

Flint Michigan was a good trial balloon for that. gordianot Apr 2016 #12

No that was an excellent example. Katashi_itto Apr 2016 #13

K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2016 #6

Does that apply to yamakas too? nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #8

Are people stoned for not wearing yamakas? Indydem Apr 2016 #10

Was stoning an implicit part and parcel of the original question? LanternWaste Apr 2016 #21

Women don't wear yamakas, but Judism is horribly misogynic, yes. n/t Gore1FL Apr 2016 #27

When the govt/society forces women to do it, it's misogyny. Otherwise, it's religion. n/t Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #14

What about when it is their families? Kurska Apr 2016 #16

But when the government/larger society is not forcing this, the concept CAN be Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #22

People have a RIGHT to wear whatever they want. Kurska Apr 2016 #33

Yes! I agree. TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2016 #50

^^^ Very well said. nt. MH1 Apr 2016 #94

+100. n/t whathehell Apr 2016 #43

And that makes it ok? cleanhippie Apr 2016 #18

Individuals have the right to their own modesty rules. Defending individual freedom Yo_Mama Apr 2016 #24

All religions, at their core, are misoginistic. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2016 #37

It's religious misogyny whatthehey Apr 2016 #25

Probably., but why single out Islam for misogyny? Catholics make it a part of their Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #29

Why single out Islam for defense of it? Kurska Apr 2016 #34

That is easy, the reason right wing xtians annoy the fuck out of me. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #38

And Islamic extremist don't? Kurska Apr 2016 #51

And let's not forget the other Abrahamic Big Mythology sect... Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #35

Agreed Egnever Apr 2016 #31

I once witnessed behavior on the part of a group LibDemAlways Apr 2016 #36

Tell that to some of the Gulf Arab feminists I have known... you would surely enjoy the tongue JCMach1 Apr 2016 #40

Do you think that forcing only women to cover their faces is misogyny by definition? Democat Apr 2016 #44

Any force of women's free will about anything is definitely coming from a misogynistic place. ancianita Apr 2016 #46

Just pointing out it's more complicated than a simple misogyny label... JCMach1 Apr 2016 #93

Lol.. whathehell Apr 2016 #47

At heart it is. The test of that is the free will choice to remove it. We know the result. ancianita Apr 2016 #45

I'm sure ranting at us about it will solve the problem handily Scootaloo Apr 2016 #48

He's not pointlessly preaching to the choir Kurska Apr 2016 #52

No, he's pointlessly yelling at a crowd. Scootaloo Apr 2016 #57

I don't get the distinction or your point EOM. Kurska Apr 2016 #60

Really? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #66

The point is the undiscussed and oft ignored form of oppression this represents Kurska Apr 2016 #68

Undiscussed my ass Scootaloo Apr 2016 #71

To answer your question, no I am not an absolute jerk Kurska Apr 2016 #74

Alright, so you just "criticize" online, away from the subjects of criticism? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #84

I never said I haven't had the discussion Kurska Apr 2016 #89

I basically posted the same thing several months ago packman Apr 2016 #53

And that is my issue in a nutshell. The men get to wear whatever they want, while the women have to Coventina Apr 2016 #62

I find it absolutely perplexing that some humans have a problem with the human body. Kurska Apr 2016 #70

No. the invisible man in the sky is a convenient excuse. They can say, "it's the will of God." Coventina Apr 2016 #72

I'd call it Religion-Enabled-and-Justified Misogyny Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #64

Religion and misogyny are not mutually exclusive. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2016 #65

A local mosque invited neighbors in, we went. I asked the fella at the door, if my wife covered her jtuck004 Apr 2016 #69

The requirement of hiding yourself under a giant blanket with eyeholes because little boys Oneironaut Apr 2016 #75

it is indeed pathetic Skittles Apr 2016 #91

What happens when a religion dictates that men wear a headcovering and women Glassunion Apr 2016 #76

Any god that requires a specific mode of dress is laughably immature and doesn't deserve worship. Coventina Apr 2016 #77

Does not answer my question. Specifically adressing the misogyny statement from the OP. Glassunion Apr 2016 #82

OK then, I'll let the OP answer for themselves. I can only speak for myself, and that is any Coventina Apr 2016 #83

Many religions require covering the head randr Apr 2016 #78

Exactly how I feel. Anyone who wants to argue otherwise can feel free to explain why CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #79

If you think it's a choice.... davidn3600 Apr 2016 #80

True.. But claiming the high road SomethingFishy Apr 2016 #81

Paternalistic "white man's burden" BS. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #86

Did you think the same about apartheid? Democat Apr 2016 #96

Bullshit comparison. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #97

Religion Generally Treats ALL Women As Inferiors. TheMastersNemesis Apr 2016 #87

CORRECT Skittles Apr 2016 #92

Blaming religion for sexism is getting the casuality backwards. Odin2005 Apr 2016 #98