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(70,516 posts) Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:39 AM Mar 2016

Thanx a lot w, Cheney, and so on you motherfuckers just had to go into Iraq and stir up ... [View all]

... that hornet's nest. In 2002 and 2003 France (remember Freedom Fries?) said the following:

1) We don't believe that Iraq has WMDs

2) We think the intel the US is getting from "Curve Ball" and others is faulty

3) There will be blow back from invading Iraq and it will destabilize the middle east

We invaded Iraq and sent the Iraqi Army (mostly sunni) home and some of those people became
al Qaeda in Iraq and that morphed into ISIS.

Brussels explosions: Many dead in airport and metro terror attacks

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Thanx a lot w, Cheney, and so on you motherfuckers just had to go into Iraq and stir up ... [View all] Botany Mar 2016 OP

+one million malaise Mar 2016 #1

George W. Bush, Father Of ISIS napkinz Mar 2016 #2

Add to that climate change and repression. pampango Mar 2016 #3

The US RW screws up and Europe (on the front lines) pays "le prix fort" (the highest price). Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #4

no kidding librechik Mar 2016 #5

K&R napkinz Mar 2016 #6

didnt u get the memo,,,, Hillary ordered all troops into MidEast. Cryptoad Mar 2016 #7

Not here, not now lastone Mar 2016 #12

Topic is Iraq War Cryptoad Mar 2016 #16

the one Hillary voted for? OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #48

u didn get the memo either, heh? Cryptoad Mar 2016 #49

which one? OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #50

read the thread Cryptoad Mar 2016 #51

lol OriginalGeek Mar 2016 #52

The umpteenth anniversary of this just came and went with democrank Mar 2016 #8

What's really telling is that Cheney explained all of the reasons why Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #9

speaking of freedom fries ... napkinz Mar 2016 #10

Yep. There was no way the sunnis were going to Ilsa Mar 2016 #11

Less then 2 months before the start of the 2003 war in Iraq w bush didn't ... Botany Mar 2016 #15

I remember that, too! He was really god-awfully Ilsa Mar 2016 #18

@ the same meeting with some Iraqis in 2003 @ the White House when the subject of .... Botany Mar 2016 #24

There's plenty of blame to go around. LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #35

But if we could blame just one person my vote is for the man who made all the $$$$$$ Botany Mar 2016 #38

Oh, of course. No doubt Cheney was the real LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #40

oops, sorry, our mistake.. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #13

Hillary voted for it too! davidn3600 Mar 2016 #14

Chaching,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2016 #17

Not at all. She voted for it of her own volition like Phlem Mar 2016 #32

Indeed. No one twisted her arm to get her to comply in voting for the IWR, PATRIOT ACT, or any of Erose999 Mar 2016 #42

The IWR didn't authorize Bush to go to war unless they found WMD's. pnwmom Mar 2016 #44

Sure, but Sanders couldn't vote "Yea" fast enough Orrex Mar 2016 #45

She pushed it, publicly. And was the only person - publicly- to try to associate Hussein polly7 Mar 2016 #41

Everyone who voted "yes" associated Hussein with Al Qaeda Orrex Mar 2016 #47

Maybe so, but she was the only one who 'spoke' on it. nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #57

Honestly I find that hard to believe Orrex Mar 2016 #58

No, it's true. And it's very relevant. The rest pushing it so hard had already polly7 Mar 2016 #59

Did they investigate before or after they voted? Orrex Mar 2016 #60

Bush, Cheney and those trying so hard for it were the ones who had it investigated, trying polly7 Mar 2016 #61

Then your complaint is about everyone who voted for it in 2002, Orrex Mar 2016 #62

No, my complaint is about her lying about it. Everyone else had abandoned trying to polly7 Mar 2016 #63

Then your complaint is about the wrong thing Orrex Mar 2016 #64

Nah ......... pushing such an ugly and dangerous implication while knowing polly7 Mar 2016 #65

Well, we can disagree on that point Orrex Mar 2016 #67

The links were all here ...... I'm not looking them up. polly7 Mar 2016 #68

Here? In this thread? I'll check again Orrex Mar 2016 #69

I don't care what you think. The links have been posted here for years. polly7 Mar 2016 #70

If you can't provide the documentation, you have no business making the claim. Orrex Mar 2016 #73

It's not a 'claim'. It was posted here many times. polly7 Mar 2016 #74

You explicitly stated that she was the only one other than Bush/Cheney Orrex Mar 2016 #75

Yeah - THEY WERE TRUE. polly7 Mar 2016 #76

You are clearly beyond rational discussion Orrex Mar 2016 #80

Worth saying. eom Duval Mar 2016 #19

And she took more than a decade to realize it was a mistake n/t Victor_c3 Mar 2016 #25

Yep Bjornsdotter Mar 2016 #26

No, she didn't. There were no WMD's discovered and the IWR pnwmom Mar 2016 #36

Yes she did melman Mar 2016 #84

Which senators voted for this clusterf*ck of hornet nest stirring? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #20

+ a brajillion! Phlem Mar 2016 #33

None of the Democrats. They voted for enforcing the UN resolution pnwmom Mar 2016 #37

Right, and... davidthegnome Mar 2016 #53

What would an outcry have accomplished? The Rethugs controlled all 3 branches pnwmom Mar 2016 #55

Who knows? davidthegnome Mar 2016 #56

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ jalan48 Mar 2016 #21

Don't forget Carlyle Group! If you need a war enabled they have the tools. Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #22

And Bush buddy Hunt Oil the first into Iraq! Whoopie!!! Finally! nt. polly7 Mar 2016 #23

To be fair they hated us before that. Just sayin. It makes me puke Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2016 #27

The George W. Bush administration was a disaster for the entire world. drm604 Mar 2016 #28

Maybe we should consider abelenkpe Mar 2016 #29

Don't forget, "We got the intel wrong!" KansDem Mar 2016 #30

"We got the intel wrong!" Not wrong but bald faced lies ..... 935 of them Botany Mar 2016 #31

Terrorism is stupid anyway. They honestly believe it will impress the masses to follow them.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #34

I think it's more just plain hate and revenge. nt pnwmom Mar 2016 #43

If that is the case where do the massive number of drone killings bighart Mar 2016 #72

They want to scare us into persecuting Muslims. Odin2005 Mar 2016 #82

What they WANT is a war between the East and West so they can look like heroes.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #83

If we have to nominate a weakling who went along with this debacle... Orsino Mar 2016 #39

Where are the war crimes being charged? Oh, yeah, the honcho criminals are swimming in a valerief Mar 2016 #46

"Ray-Gun" funded and created Osama Bin Laden maxrandb Mar 2016 #54

yep ... napkinz Mar 2016 #66

they may have stired this up, but Dan Mar 2016 #71

An interesting timeline from way back. polly7 Mar 2016 #77

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #78

And if Hillary has her way, it's on to IRAN Lorien Mar 2016 #79

Blood On So Many Hands colsohlibgal Mar 2016 #81