Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
26. well...
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:41 PM
Jan 2016

I have to draw a line in a place that most people I talk to can be guaranteed to not go mental over...

I'd rather have productive discussions than arguments, and firebombing Tokyo .. or Dresden... well, even now many Americans assume these were well deserved punishments...

And honestly, I've never hd good luck convincing people otherwise...

But why stop at the 40s?

Between 1900 and 1940 something like 65,000 people - American citizens - were forcibly sterilized by states and the federal government. Thousands of poor and minority women were sterilized secretly in the south as well.

The government ROUTINELY injected unsuspecting children and prisoners and poor people with all sorts of diseases for decades before that:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States#Early_20th_century

Were were also running medical tests on prisoners in other countries:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guatemala_syphilis_experiment

Bear in mind that happened from 1946-48, AFTER the US knew about German medical testing... that didn't stop us from doing it in Guatemala and other places around the world.

And this all goes on and on back through time, to slavery, to the Native Americans genocide... heck, Christopher Columbus, as everyone now knows, was a little Hitler, and yet we all worship him as kids growing up...

sigh

It seems we no longer care. tecelote Jan 2016 #1
we haven't cared since the 1950s EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #4
Did we care in the 1940s when we bombed Japan with nuclear weapons? oberliner Jan 2016 #24
well... EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #26
That was kind of my point oberliner Jan 2016 #27
Can't arms sales be stopped with executive order? JonathanRackham Jan 2016 #2
you got it all wrong EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #3
Our government loves cheap oil and LuvNewcastle Jan 2016 #5
It's a headscratcher EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #7
International law and the laws of war have long been malaise Jan 2016 #6
Laws are for the poor EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #8
Laws are for the poor, the weak malaise Jan 2016 #9
Or EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #10
Where is the UN? RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #11
The UN is being blocked by the US EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #12
kick Liberal_in_LA Jan 2016 #13
I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times-- FUCK Saudi Arabia, and fuck the evil assholes Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #14
ehhh.. be careful EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #15
Thanks for that... it's such a horrible disgrace Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #18
Absolutely EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #20
The Great Satan Martin Eden Jan 2016 #16
It's not a new role for us EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #17
thanks-- hadn't heard of him but will check that out Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #19
It's also worth noting EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #21
gee, that sounds like a conspiracy Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #22
K & R for whole thread Duppers Jan 2016 #23
thanks! EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #25
Excellent thread, EdwardBernays. Thanks for posting it. nt. polly7 Jan 2016 #28
Thank you EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #30
Kick Fast Walker 52 Jan 2016 #29
Thanks! EdwardBernays Jan 2016 #31
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Saudi Arabia fatally bomb...»Reply #26