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Mc Mike

(9,107 posts)
39. Fire posted a vid from ABC 7, Chi, 2x
Tue May 22, 2012, 11:16 AM
May 2012

Says ~ min 12 sec 45 (14 min vid) that the bb s were travelling west along with dispersing protestors, and were forced back east by the police. They were already blocked to the south, and east. That 'kettling' makes a dispersal order unhelpful.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=710141

Wnd's eyewitness accounts are only good for the part of the field s\he was in. The photo sequence is incomplete, because it starts with the white shirted officer's helmet already off, which doesn't necessarily show an unprovoked attack on that officer. Doesn't show either side before the start of the altercation. When I see an officer with an old-style night stick, instead of the Okinawa-style grain grinder model, I think that officer is harking back to the 'good old days' of police-community relations. My opinion may be wrong, but that officer's bosses created the whole situation with the kettling.

There was no legit reason people couldn't march south in the first place. In Pgh.'s G-20 (the 9-25-09 march), the cops arbitrarily enforced bridge and street closures which clearly contradicted my State Rep.'s official route info, and the official established 'free speech' zone directly E-NE of the Convention center. Nobody was allowed to even approach the area. The cops were Keystone to a Chinese Fire drill degree. The field commanders made up the rules on the fly, to make a moving and constantly enveloping kettle around the legally permitted marchers, with overwhelming manpower on all sides, as they shunted the protest across the river from the G-20 site, tastefully out of the range of the WB and IMF big-shots.

If I saw a protestor launch an unprovoked attack on a cop, I'd do my best to restrain them, before the cops responded to the attack by ravaging the rest of the innocent protestors. All cops aren't bad, but they're bad in large groups, listening to their pin-head bosses. I don't want any physical harm to come to women or men who are on the job. But there isn't a large casualty list on the law enforcement side, and there is one on the protestors' side.

Either cops start the violence, or u.c. cops start the violence, or some agro protestor whose brain is in pawn to the system (so s\he is working for that cop system) starts the violence. So now it's obviously time for all DU hands to call each other cops, and pick which of the 3 flavors of cop they want to back, against other DU people. Sweet mother of mercy, we could screw up a 2 car funeral.

(cross posted as a re to posts 53, 60 in the link you just posted. That's ME screwing up a 2 car funeral. Sorry. Har har.)

what chicago learned from '68 [View all] mopinko May 2012 OP
Good post. Cary May 2012 #1
he inherited a mess, like his former boss. mopinko May 2012 #2
Funny how so many people criticizing the response are not those who live or work here nobodyspecial May 2012 #3
Don Lemon of CNN disagrees with you. According to someone who was watching, Lemon coalition_unwilling May 2012 #6
I think you are speaking too soon. Police orchestrated protests arent real protests. rhett o rick May 2012 #4
what do you mean police orchestrated protests? mopinko May 2012 #9
I can see how what I said can be misleading. What I mean is the police grant the permit, rhett o rick May 2012 #18
Unfortunately... 99Forever May 2012 #10
Unfortunately... rhett o rick May 2012 #19
When will they coalition_unwilling May 2012 #5
did i say nobody got hurt? mopinko May 2012 #8
Your tax dollars hard at work: coalition_unwilling May 2012 #11
thanks for proving my point. nt. mopinko May 2012 #12
Hunh? With a picture of a pig delivering a haymaker paid for with your tax dollars, I'm coalition_unwilling May 2012 #13
yeah, my point that the one act of violence out of a week of peaceful protests mopinko May 2012 #14
You and I use the phrase 'one act of violence' far too coalition_unwilling May 2012 #15
LOL! Rex May 2012 #30
Daily Kos has a series of pictures taken leading up to the one you have chosen to make your point. 11 Bravo May 2012 #22
the photo apparently didn't deserve to be linked or pasted by you, either. HiPointDem May 2012 #25
Because I'm old and borderline computer illiterate. There's a post by wndycty on the front page ... 11 Bravo May 2012 #26
if you want me to check out the picture or the report, link it. you're apparently not computer HiPointDem May 2012 #29
Look here nobodyspecial May 2012 #33
Fire posted a vid from ABC 7, Chi, 2x Mc Mike May 2012 #39
Sorry, noob, I have neither the time nor the inclination to do your homework for you. 11 Bravo May 2012 #34
+1. NT Mc Mike May 2012 #37
I Expected This... KharmaTrain May 2012 #7
Post removed Post removed May 2012 #16
Didn't the clash occur when the protesters attempted........ socialist_n_TN May 2012 #17
Bill Clinton created the Orwellian "free speech zones". n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #23
"Many colleges and universities earlier instituted free speech zone rules during the Vietnam-era HiPointDem May 2012 #27
Thanks. I remember them trying it at protests with my parents, but they never worked. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #32
nope. richard nixon. mopinko May 2012 #35
did you actually witness the beatings? G_j May 2012 #20
you missed my point. mopinko May 2012 #21
Because this is pro-cop propaganda like the other umpteenth Rex May 2012 #31
good to know you consider him "your mayor". keep taking ownership of his policies like that. HiPointDem May 2012 #24
I have to buy you a beer just so I can hug you for this post wndycty May 2012 #28
any time my friend. mopinko May 2012 #36
I also saw the shoulder-to-shoulder police first hand during the Iraq anti-war marches riderinthestorm May 2012 #38
What Chicago could learn from Quebec. rhett o rick May 2012 #40
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