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akbacchus_BC

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65. That was a nice tribute to Cain, however, he is President material!

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Sun Jul 19, 2015, 04:21 AM

Jul 2015

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I should have said, he is 'not' Presidential material. Typo and my apologies

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Question for DUers: Do you consider John McCain to be a war hero? [View all] oberliner Jul 2015 OP

John McCain served our country, endured being a prisoner of war, pipoman Jul 2015 #1

Same. peacebird Jul 2015 #3

That's pretty much my opinion as well oberliner Jul 2015 #5

+ 1 DashOneBravo Jul 2015 #7

Well said. Cleita Jul 2015 #10

Well said. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #15

Totally agree yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #27

pipoman never said the words war hero. LeftOfWest Jul 2015 #66

This ^^^^^^^^^ treestar Jul 2015 #45

This ^^ n/t susanna Jul 2015 #63

He was a POW during the Vietnam war, but received such attention due to his father being a well.... dmosh42 Jul 2015 #73

That was his grandfather. former9thward Jul 2015 #100

I respect him for surviving a horrible situation Generic Brad Jul 2015 #86

Well, he did refuse to be released early for propaganda purposes goldent Jul 2015 #97

No, but I won't shitbag him for being a PoW like Trump is doing Scootaloo Jul 2015 #2

Ditto...........eom truegrit44 Jul 2015 #12

Yeah, that's the thing -- whether to categorize him as a 'war hero' isn't the core issue for me. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #85

IMO, no. But he has legitimately earned respect for his service and being a POW nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #4

My answer is the more offensive part of Trump's statement was that POWs were less "war hero" GreatGazoo Jul 2015 #6

Yeah that was crazy oberliner Jul 2015 #9

Yes! Trump is insane. 4139 Jul 2015 #21

Exactly and declaring it... Historic NY Jul 2015 #82

The lost irony is that in McCain's 6 years in captivity he appeared numerous times as a prop for Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #8

Like making up stuff, don't you. former9thward Jul 2015 #101

The Guardian, 2008: Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #103

From your first link: former9thward Jul 2015 #107

As much as I feel that "hero" is something of an overused word in media petronius Jul 2015 #11

That's exactly how I feel about it. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #41

True, especially when Trump didn't fucking go himself treestar Jul 2015 #47

I lost four college classmates (and friends) in VN 1939 Jul 2015 #93

Fuck, no DavidDvorkin Jul 2015 #13

So did a million other through no choice yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #31

McCain had the choice DavidDvorkin Jul 2015 #32

Actually he had zero "enemy" hits yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #37

Meaning that his bombs didn't kill anyone on the ground? DavidDvorkin Jul 2015 #38

I don't know. Probably bad aim but I was not there. yeoman6987 Jul 2015 #40

That is the crucial distinction for me as well. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #53

I do not consider him a war hero. Deadshot Jul 2015 #14

A hero? Adrahil Jul 2015 #16

Hero yes but that does not preclude his being an idiot dembotoz Jul 2015 #17

He refused an early exchange that he was offered Recursion Jul 2015 #18

FYI almost all refused early release. truebluegreen Jul 2015 #25

Yup. I admire them for that (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #26

I do as well truebluegreen Jul 2015 #30

He's not worthy of the contempt shown by that asshole Trump. lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #19

No. nt Walk away Jul 2015 #20

Good question. Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2015 #22

Thanks! oberliner Jul 2015 #34

yes restorefreedom Jul 2015 #23

I think anyone who goes in harm's way, is grievously wounded, tortured by the enemy, thrown into MADem Jul 2015 #24

+1 tammywammy Jul 2015 #28

I agree with you. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #70

No. He was a sailor who followed orders. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #29

One of the more dispicable quotes by A.E. Telcontar Jul 2015 #84

Really? I'm rather fond of it. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #92

Wonder if he'd feel the same way if he was in a camp when 3rd Army came marching in Telcontar Jul 2015 #109

Who knows? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #110

He wans't tho, so he disparages the millions who served Telcontar Jul 2015 #111

Like McCain? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #112

Like Eisenhower Telcontar Jul 2015 #114

So, McCain was dropping bombs to "make the world a better place"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #118

Seeing as how I'm in Afghanistan right now Telcontar Jul 2015 #119

Does that make you a "hero"? Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #120

Yup Telcontar Jul 2015 #121

John McCain is a Veteran and former POW. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #33

I don't like this "one true hero" business HassleCat Jul 2015 #35

I consider every POW a War Hero. Sunlei Jul 2015 #36

This. +1000 nt TeamPooka Jul 2015 #57

Yes Depaysement Jul 2015 #39

Definitely not. copernicusrev Jul 2015 #42

Yes, He is a war Hero, but I wouldn't vote for him dem in texas Jul 2015 #43

No. He did nothing heroic. Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #44

Audie Murphy, Sgt. York, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain: war heroes distingused in battle. oasis Jul 2015 #46

Yes. tavernier Jul 2015 #48

Both are jerks, Trump and McCain. roamer65 Jul 2015 #49

No, he did nothing above and beyond the call of duty. bluedigger Jul 2015 #50

No. bravenak Jul 2015 #51

he was a pow. loves his country. for this deserves respect. elehhhhna Jul 2015 #52

I consider Trump a big fat zero that much I will say Person 2713 Jul 2015 #54

Of course he was a POW. I liked him as a Senator up doc03 Jul 2015 #55

He was a totally incompetent pilot. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #56

All his previous sorties were against civilian targets, so you are right. Lives, in a strange twist,were saved. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #108

No, but still. xenoturkey Jul 2015 #58

He is as much of a hero as the 5 men who died this week. dilby Jul 2015 #59

lol rbrnmw Jul 2015 #60

I'll consider him a war hero when the GOP extends the same courtesy to John Kerry. Initech Jul 2015 #61

I think John McCain should be left alone! I have no idea if he is a war hero! akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #62

Nope. I'll admit that he was once deserving of respect for having survived being a PoW... Lancero Jul 2015 #64

That was a nice tribute to Cain, however, he is President material! akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #65

Typo? a2liberal Jul 2015 #67

I corrected my post but have no akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #69

yw and thanks a2liberal Jul 2015 #71

I think John McCain is a great man who fell into a Nixonian partisan black hole Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2015 #68

No. There is nothing heroic about war. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #72

What about this? oberliner Jul 2015 #74

That is what any decent person would do. bemildred Jul 2015 #76

Doesn't "heroic" mean "showing great courage"? oberliner Jul 2015 #78

So what do you think of the plans for the Red Heifer anyway? bemildred Jul 2015 #79

Messiah is coming oberliner Jul 2015 #89

no, that would be "courageous". Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #96

No, that would be a "synonym" oberliner Jul 2015 #98

well the dictionary definition is lame. Heroes perform heroic acts - Warren Stupidity Jul 2015 #102

My dad a WW2 vet always said that the only true heroes died in battle. B Calm Jul 2015 #75

Or died trying to save others. Erose999 Jul 2015 #115

He's probably closer to being a war hero than Rump is to being a President. nt Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #77

No but it has nothing to with him having been captured and being a POW. n/t pampango Jul 2015 #80

this vet says yes DrDan Jul 2015 #81

Yes. nt Phentex Jul 2015 #83

I think his military service record, including his time as POW, is worthy of respect. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #87

No I don't, but I don't consider myself to be a war hero either Victor_c3 Jul 2015 #88

I consider him to be a horrible pilot that should have never been B Calm Jul 2015 #90

I do not agree with him at all DiverDave Jul 2015 #91

Yes. Being a terrible politician doesn't diminish that fact. Lyric Jul 2015 #94

No LittleBlue Jul 2015 #95

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #99

yes. definitely Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #104

CRIMINAL..too many returning POWs said he should be court marshalled emsimon33 Jul 2015 #105

I consider him to be a survivor. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #106

Well, I get sort of meh about it the more I consider it. ladyVet Jul 2015 #113

He has done nothing heroic Matrosov Jul 2015 #116

Yes, he is a war hero. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #117

He kept faith with his fellow prisoners and endured torture. Orsino Jul 2015 #122

The Soviets actually mentioned McCain Mrdie Jul 2015 #123