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UTUSN

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78. I guess this is going to be one of those topics that never go away
Sat May 12, 2012, 07:55 PM
May 2012

I seldom use emoticons but since I palmed my face when I saw this thread I might as well do it here:

First of all, I am totally aware of the worth of my two cents, which is less than nil fwiw.

And while I have posted the same opinions with other DUers who have posed the same opinion as the current O.P., one of my previous posts is below, I'll preface that with these points:

* Beyond cuteness or why this is a question now in GD instead of Meta, I'll say that the real issue is whether or not to have different forums with individual SoPs.

Redundantly, I'll say: Those who insist on anti-SoP pose the same "reasons":

* That GD is too serious. Uh, no, there is plenty of GD humor available, political cartoons, wingnut outrages and gaffes, COLBERT, whatever.

* That the anti-SoP threads provide "relief." The fallacy is that somebody would stay forever in GD without ever doing anything thing else whether in real life or on the internet. The solution to being burned out in GD is to go to the appropriate places to find the relief instead of falsely claiming that the relief can only be found in GD.

* That a great service is being done by the anti-SoP-ers.

* That great popularity, whether via polls or by Views or by number of Replies, is justification enough to abuse the SoP.

* (Continuing with an Edit...) Meh, on second thought, I'll just save this into a Repeat file for the next times.


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(thread, “Why I post kitteh threads in GD&quot http://www.democraticunderground.com/124079704

My Post: Kindly I say

I don't believe some off-topic threads, such as yours, are meant to annoy. And I similarly do not entertain the "wanting attention" thing. And, I love cute animals and agree with other off-topic threads: I just look for those things in the places set aside for them.

Instead, I disagree with some of your premises:

* "topics in GD unrelentingly serious/grim" - there's plenty of GD/on-topic humor mocking wingnuts. Your premise is that humor, by definition, has to be off-topic for GD in order to be humor. If a "break" is needed, the fabulous multi-faceted DU provides all the other forums (fora?), not to mention pursuing the rest of the internet or just any other life activities, sleeping or whatever.

* "gravitate to certain forums, GD/comfortable." Somebody I agree with said, "Why not post in the appropriate forum to begin with?"

* In another thread on this Meta page, there's this: "then just what is the point of having rules." Others who have railed against the GD SoP have made their case saying that "General" means *anything*. When it was named "Soap Box" did that mean it was supposed to be about soap? So, "then just what is the point of having rules (SoPs)?" Instead of having forums and groups, why not just have one vast venue where EVERYTHING is posted together, from Lounge to Mid-East to guns and everything in between? Plus, this point of view seems to pontificate that THEY (the anti-SoPers) somehow have the unilateral privilege of making up their own rules, which they really could do by founding their own website. So, then, who are the members who must abide by SoPs and who are the ones with privileges to do what they want? I might ask how does a body get on the privileged list, but being Democratic and democratic I don't want to be privileged above any rules.

Really, please, I'm not hostile or negative to you, we don't even know each other for goodness' sake, am just responding on a topic that is a pet peeve that I participate in re-hashing.

yes. i think it qualifies as general. nt xchrom May 2012 #1
Yes, it prevents apoplexy. freshwest May 2012 #2
Yes, we have medical grounds to keep them. EFerrari May 2012 #18
yes they are contributing profoundly to the overall welfare of humankind Voice for Peace May 2012 #28
Only if there is a political message accompanying the cut animal. Ian David May 2012 #3
What? They aren't? lonestarnot May 2012 #4
No they're not. MoonRiver May 2012 #6
Perhaps the locker woke up grumpy today. dems_rightnow May 2012 #12
not grumpy. i like cute and joy, too. they were alerted on, and i am following skinners seabeyond May 2012 #19
The SOP doesn't state no animal pictures and they do fall in the catagory of current events: snagglepuss May 2012 #52
Sefl delete. Moved the question to Meta. snagglepuss May 2012 #58
i dont see an alert. i dont know. i havent read the thread seabeyond May 2012 #59
Your poll choices are very poor. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #5
Suggestions? MoonRiver May 2012 #7
Yes, no, other. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #8
I like my wording better! MoonRiver May 2012 #16
Well, they will most likely lead to the results you want. ZombieHorde May 2012 #21
Not a push poll. MoonRiver May 2012 #24
"No" and "keep it serious" are two very different repsonses. ZombieHorde May 2012 #29
Well, for people who want to keep it serious, that's what they vote for. MoonRiver May 2012 #32
The political cartoons are not always serious, yet they fit well within the GD SOP. ZombieHorde May 2012 #33
Whatever. MoonRiver May 2012 #37
cats Crow73 May 2012 #9
Yes. lunatica May 2012 #10
I think the occasional cute animal post keeps the collective BP down, the insanity in check... hlthe2b May 2012 #11
I agree. HappyMe May 2012 #17
I think occasional is the key word. laundry_queen May 2012 #35
+1 freshwest May 2012 #44
I like to keep my diabetes under control if that's all right with you... cynatnite May 2012 #13
Then don't open them. Do you open every post? snagglepuss May 2012 #51
I think if people want to deflate by looking at kitty pictures, GD isn't the place... cynatnite May 2012 #56
Again do you open every post? Furthermore these pictures are current events. snagglepuss May 2012 #57
The pandas are news...posting kitty pics only for cuteness is not newsworthy... cynatnite May 2012 #66
my opinion if it's just a pic it belongs in the lounge maddezmom May 2012 #14
yes! Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #15
btw... someone might consider this a meta thread, and there is already an alert in host forum.... seabeyond May 2012 #20
What's a meta thread and the host forum? MoonRiver May 2012 #22
meta thread is a palce people go to complain about du. personally i see complain seabeyond May 2012 #54
Thanks for the info! n/t MoonRiver May 2012 #61
They probably belong in DU Lounge. But no big deal. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #23
I agree with what everyone else said, I would also like it 2on2u May 2012 #25
"Cute cat pictures with zero political context whatsoever seems off-topic to me." - Skinner ellisonz May 2012 #26
"seems off topic" isn't definitive, it's his subjective pov Voice for Peace May 2012 #31
Seems pretty conclusive to me... ellisonz May 2012 #34
"nice poetry" -- don't know what you mean Voice for Peace May 2012 #38
I guess so. Many people have the Lounge blocked in their Latest Threads option. freshwest May 2012 #45
Keep the cute critters.......... wandy May 2012 #27
I think the occasional cute animal picture I'd good for GD NV Whino May 2012 #30
Nope. We have a lounge for squeee animal photos and it's only a click away. Little Star May 2012 #36
I seem to remember that in the early days of DU, half the posts in GD were about teh kittehs. Webster Green May 2012 #39
I remember that too. MoonRiver May 2012 #40
there shall be no fun and levity, forever! we're saving lives here, dammit! NuttyFluffers May 2012 #41
No. zappaman May 2012 #42
. Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #49
lol. Subversively embedding threads with itty bitty cuteness. Brilliant idea! snagglepuss May 2012 #68
Couldn't vote .... a simple NO would have been my choice etherealtruth May 2012 #43
many of the cute photos are attached to animal abuse issues Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #46
I have no opposition to the posting of these attached to a discussion of issues etherealtruth May 2012 #69
Only if you sneak 'em in. GeorgeGist May 2012 #47
OMG how dare you inflict that on people!! snagglepuss May 2012 #74
Ugly animals deserve equal posting. FarCenter May 2012 #48
"Ugly" can be "cute!" MoonRiver May 2012 #55
Pandas only... Phentex May 2012 #50
No ... only cats that look like Hitler should be allowed in GD. JoePhilly May 2012 #53
only if its cats or in the cat family quinnox May 2012 #60
Yeah dumb threads about stupid heroic dogs should not be allowed to stand next to snagglepuss May 2012 #62
Humans are animals too felix_numinous May 2012 #63
EXACTLY! MoonRiver May 2012 #65
only if its about dogs - given that the reason why people were put on this earth is to serve dogs - Douglas Carpenter May 2012 #64
put the Lounge threads in the Lounge TorchTheWitch May 2012 #67
Cute kitties, etc. have traditionally been used at DU flamingdem May 2012 #70
I could support the cuteness if it's offered in the middle of a tense thread to diffuse tensions... cynatnite May 2012 #72
As are puppies, baby pandas, and other critters. GoCubsGo May 2012 #73
If they are unpopular on GD they would drop like lead but they are popular, people comment on them snagglepuss May 2012 #71
Yes. jp11 May 2012 #75
I have no problem with cute animal posts. Blue_In_AK May 2012 #76
Don't these belong in the DU Lounge? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2012 #77
I guess this is going to be one of those topics that never go away UTUSN May 2012 #78
sorry moonriver.... alert happened. this is meta thread. gotta lock. nt seabeyond May 2012 #79
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