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Cha

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134. The OP is the opposite of true. It's sickening.. they do Bernie a huge disservice..
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:17 AM
May 2015

with flinging disingenuous crap like this around, too..

"..she doesn't give a damn about the sisters, or poc, or LGBTQ.."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6750111

So this is an OP about nothing? And the Clinton lead is not artificial, it is real and that is something. Fred Sanders May 2015 #1
Fred, this isn't an OP about nothing. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #3
No it isn't and you know it. Ken Burch May 2015 #11
I have never said anything negative about Senator Sanders and I will continue to do so. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #12
The problem I have with the OP is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #56
Bernie sees the world through the prism of a class struggle. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #59
That is a point I have attempted to make ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #64
It's classic socialist* analysis DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #70
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #82
But Bernie hasn't MADE that argument. Ken Burch May 2015 #91
Then He needs to make those points more forcefully./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #95
I agree. Ken Burch May 2015 #98
Does Bernie have to reject class struggle to get your trust? Ken Burch May 2015 #85
No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #101
I can see him reiterating his commitment to the fight for social justice Ken Burch May 2015 #107
I make no such presumption. Ken Burch May 2015 #75
The OP is the opposite of true. It's sickening.. they do Bernie a huge disservice.. Cha May 2015 #134
OK, she starts with that strength. Ken Burch May 2015 #87
you can damn well bet sanders is looking at that 87% AA support and seeing it means something. seabeyond May 2015 #15
It doesn't mean he's made some horrible mistake. Ken Burch May 2015 #79
What do her poll ratings among straight white male voters mean? JTFrog May 2015 #42
This condescended to Strong Black Man approves of your response. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #58
No .... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #7
We wimmin folk ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #9
I know this is personal and out of the subject nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #24
And you have no idea ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #30
Well Nance you are wrong nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #32
In other words ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #36
Not quite nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #37
Ah, yes, quite. NanceGreggs May 2015 #39
Bernie is just as committed to all of that as HRC is. Ken Burch May 2015 #103
How you got ... NanceGreggs May 2015 #108
You implied, with no justification whatsoever, that I was being dismissive to women, poc's Ken Burch May 2015 #125
What about that spelling sets you off? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #51
I have no idea why it is jarring nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #57
Okay. So doe that translate beyond you? Or, is it specific to you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #61
It mostly bothers older women nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #67
I wonder if some DUers have the slightest idea ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #47
Cut the crap, Nance. I've never treated you that way or treated women or poc that way. Ken Burch May 2015 #123
You "cut the crap". Cha May 2015 #137
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service FrodosPet May 2015 #132
HaHa! Cha May 2015 #136
Not what I'm saying. Ken Burch May 2015 #13
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #46
I think I love you. Just a little bit... Number23 May 2015 #126
+1000 giftedgirl77 May 2015 #133
I cant't believe that was deleted. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #141
I'm not surprised ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #142
I have heard of Bernie, I have researched Bernie and I know Hillary's record Thinkingabout May 2015 #60
So has this consistently condescended to Black man ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #86
This approach is working so well...Is it a wonder they keep using it?/NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #14
watch out, you will be accused of calling sanders a racist anytime and a whole lot of pro sanders seabeyond May 2015 #17
Actually he is telling folks nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #18
Yes. Most voters are low information voters ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #77
Yeah I see a problem here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #83
I said MOST people at this stage are low-info voters. Ken Burch May 2015 #121
Not the first Bernie supporter to push that meme.. It's about time it's the last.. Cha May 2015 #135
I know, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #143
They're full of it.. any way to twist it and insult Clinton's supporters to make Bernie look better. Cha May 2015 #145
I'm becoming more and more convinced ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #148
I see what you mean but Jeeze! Cha May 2015 #150
"Bernie... has never been actively involved in trying to lock you out in the cold politically" NYC_SKP May 2015 #2
Oh Lord God Almighty give me strength! hrmjustin May 2015 #4
I need to have a conversation with Coyote. okasha May 2015 #66
I love when someone presumes to tell me what is good for me. hrmjustin May 2015 #71
Nothing in my OP said that. Ken Burch May 2015 #119
Anyone who has worked on a national campaign will tell you that polls are meaningless at Exilednight May 2015 #5
And the only thing I will add is nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #22
Believe that if you will. MohRokTah May 2015 #6
another thread lecturing those who don't know any better JI7 May 2015 #8
Exactly! What minorities and women think isn't important. DanTex May 2015 #10
Reminds me of when the Native Americans referred to the president as the Great White Father./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16
Wrong. Just that it's early days yet. Ken Burch May 2015 #21
May I have I please Have a list of the posters who asserted this. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #23
That's the implication behind those who keep bringing up the "social issues" thing Ken Burch May 2015 #29
Anybody that says Bernie is a racist, homophobe, misogynist, et cetera is just dumb. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #31
And it's equally dumb and unfair to argue that the OP insults people in those groups. Ken Burch May 2015 #40
you will have to ask the black community because i do not talk for them. i dunno. but, we seabeyond May 2015 #43
Loyalty isn't always easily understandable. Ken Burch May 2015 #112
bill clinton is not running. hillary clinton has an excellent record around the world, for women seabeyond May 2015 #113
She really does.. And, it's killin' 'em. Cha May 2015 #139
Okay we're getting to a teachable moment here ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #92
Agreed. I just added downthread Lilith Rising May 2015 #100
omg...If those aren't coded accusations that Bernie and his current core supporters are bigots seabeyond May 2015 #34
No ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #88
i suppose all of us challenging this crap will now be told we are calling sanders a racist? seabeyond May 2015 #19
You have nothing to challenge and Bernie hasn't given you any crap. Ken Burch May 2015 #25
"some sort of panicked assumption that Bernie will betray and ignore you?" seabeyond May 2015 #27
Economic justice benefits the entire Rainbow Coalition...and women...and LGBTQ Ken Burch May 2015 #35
economics does not trickle down to the social justice. so many times it has been told to you, by seabeyond May 2015 #38
And I didn't say that economic justice solves the problem of bigotry. Ken Burch May 2015 #45
it talks to the men in the party. not as much to women and POC and gay, because we also have social seabeyond May 2015 #53
Please don't speak for gay people Prism May 2015 #62
didnt we have a conversation a couple years ago, you insisting women must have an emtional seabeyond May 2015 #73
You have me very confused with someone else Prism May 2015 #80
And I agree with you that the fight against personal and social oppression needs to go on. Ken Burch May 2015 #65
i am a sander supporter. i did check website and not a social justice issue to be had. seabeyond May 2015 #72
I looked at his website and he highlighted Wall Street, $$ in politics and climate change, period. bettyellen May 2015 #94
Then email him and tell him to include the social issues as well. Ken Burch May 2015 #97
You really don't see how flip you sound with "just an oversight"? seriously not seeing how dismissive bettyellen May 2015 #102
I know it's important. Ken Burch May 2015 #104
Honestly, I think he fucked up and got off to a bad start. He's entirely focused on issues dear to bettyellen May 2015 #106
You'd have a point if there was a progressive alternative to Bernie. Ken Burch May 2015 #109
You're not doing Sanders any favors by trashing Hillary. So misguided- bettyellen May 2015 #114
Thread Winner. Sorry for the crappy prize Number23 May 2015 #127
if you are asking various groups to allow economic justice do the trick, we wont buy it. seabeyond May 2015 #44
I want to hear from him more on social issues. TDale313 May 2015 #93
Again, I am not making the argument that economic justice takes care of everything. Ken Burch May 2015 #96
You cannot claim any expectation of being taken seriously okasha May 2015 #90
If only those women,gays,latinos and african americans were sufrommich May 2015 #20
No...nothing like that at all. Ken Burch May 2015 #26
Are you smart enough to see through TM99 May 2015 #33
That was a horrible hit piece on a woman who's accomplishments sufrommich May 2015 #48
A hit piece? TM99 May 2015 #52
You took 2 years out of her life and ignored the rest. She was sufrommich May 2015 #63
A mole? TM99 May 2015 #69
Whatever,you want to run with "LaDavia Drane is a monster!"? sufrommich May 2015 #76
It is hard to take you seriously. TM99 May 2015 #84
Unbelievable. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #146
"Are you smart enough to see through" i guess you simply were not smart enough. and they do not seabeyond May 2015 #54
The smug comments about Bernie's kickoff crowd not having more poc Ken Burch May 2015 #68
You're comparing a few comments made on an internet forum sufrommich May 2015 #74
I agree that polls are not super important at this point MannyGoldstein May 2015 #28
I would reckon 90% of voters are low information at this point Prism May 2015 #41
"We're even getting faux minstrelsy upthread"? KittyWampus May 2015 #78
It's not hard to find Prism May 2015 #81
k&R marym625 May 2015 #49
Alert Results.. Segami May 2015 #50
For the record: marble falls May 2015 #55
As a gay man I am proud to support Hillary. hrmjustin May 2015 #89
It looks to me like the major objection to your post Lilith Rising May 2015 #99
I've deleted the last graph. Ken Burch May 2015 #110
Well, it wasn't really a suggestion as much as it was Lilith Rising May 2015 #111
The observation. Ken Burch May 2015 #124
Nope. Lilith Rising May 2015 #147
Did it ever occur to you that ... frazzled May 2015 #105
Apparently not.. "..she doesn't give a damn about the sisters, or poc, or LGBTQ.." He thinks Cha May 2015 #138
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #152
This isn't an accidental oversight. These simply aren't issues Sanders is passionate about in the wa seabeyond May 2015 #115
he believes it will only come as the result of economic equality. seabeyond May 2015 #116
frustrated with his fellow student activists, who were more interested in race or imperialism than t seabeyond May 2015 #117
Bernie is just as passionate about social justice as about economic justice. Ken Burch May 2015 #118
we do not see the passion, we do not hear the passion, and per the article, he does not have the seabeyond May 2015 #120
Sanders has an incredibly strong track record on social issues.... Violet_Crumble May 2015 #122
Really hard to find anything on his website- but I'm sure his people realize the gaffe. bettyellen May 2015 #128
Have you thought about clicking on the link I posted? Violet_Crumble May 2015 #129
I've not been impressed by the focus on economics which is what he pivots to in every discussion of bettyellen May 2015 #157
Bernie ignored immigration in what was one of the most importants speeches of his life. lunamagica May 2015 #130
The attack on HRC in this thread is odd. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #151
I know. When I read that she's "not addressing the issues" lunamagica May 2015 #154
Immigration is important to me. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #155
Ken, your OP is on the money and those who tried to twist your words deserve scorn. Scuba May 2015 #131
How do you know? the OP deleted the last paragraph and "apologized".. said it was going in a Cha May 2015 #140
I deleted it because it detracted from the larger point I was making. Ken Burch May 2015 #158
I have read and re-read this thread several times. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #144
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #153
K&R! - nt KingCharlemagne May 2015 #149
What is her lead among women, or people of color? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #156
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