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In reply to the discussion: It tells us nothing at this point that HRC beats Bernie among women and poc. [View all]Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Whatever you think of some posters here(and I join you in calling out those who say that social issues don't matter) Bernie has had a perfect record on every anti-oppression issue.
And I'm just as concerned about social justice as you are. I agree with you that the fight against bigotry wouldn't automatically end if we achieved economic inequality(though it would become a considerably easier fight)and that wealthy poc, women, and LGBTQ people can be and still are oppressed.
All I've said in this OP is that the poll ratings of Sanders vs. HRC among AA voters are not a final verdict. It's not insulting to anyone to say that a candidate who is better-known will pretty much always a candidate who is less-known. That's an innocuous statement and a truism.
What message do YOU take from that poll result?
Besides which, you, like me, are white...so who are you to claim any greater insight into what poc might think? And unless you are gay, what claim do you have to speak for gays?
Nobody is trying to sneak anything by you here...and whatever the behavior of some posters here, Bernie's commitment on anti-oppression issues isn't in question. He has a better voting record than HRC-on EVERY anti-oppression issue.
If you want to call out bad posters here, fine, that's legitimate...but why do your posts read as if you are constantly flying into some sort of panicked assumption that Bernie will betray and ignore you? Why does he deserve less slack than HRC, who HAS betrayed and ignored poc, LGBTQ, and feminist voters on many issues over the years.
You have every right to ask questions. But acting like there's some sort of diabolical conspiracy you need to battle isn't about asking questions-it's just about spreading unjustified fear and suspicion towards a candidate(one you claim to support)who has done nothing to deserve such treatment. And I was having these exact same kinds of conversations with white liberals who used false accusations of antisemitism to justify selling out and not backing Jesse Jackson on 1984 and 1988, when he was the only progressive candidate in the race on both occasions. And with people who wouldn't let it go that Dennis Kucinich talked about a damn UFO when that totally didn't matter.
I'll always defend a good person who's being unjustly attacked.