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In reply to the discussion: Is it just possible that people who don't believe Sanders can win aren't "afraid" of him? [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)39. Like asking a question in a church and the howls erupt of 'You're not really saved!'
It does not sway many of us. IMO, Sanders' electability will be part of the debate, like anyone else running will face. But negative campaigns don't work except for GOP, Libertarians, Naderites, etc who profit from screwing with the heads of Democrats.
But look at PBO who was a long shot, however people saw the brilliance of his thinking and were willing to give him a chance.
Or the re-election of Clinton, as people didn't buy the smears that were being sold. But we are long way from that time, twenty years ago!
Since then the media dumbing down of the electorate has mulitplied, and that is of concern, people falling for every media trick, when the media is all about RFing Democrats and pushing the nation to agree with the Koch brothers.
Even if Sanders does not get the nomination (and remember HRC's fabled war chest is mostly IOU's and will be for the general, not the primary, so it's not to blame) it will not be the fault of other candidates running in the primary. Not being able to get your party to accept you is proof you are not electable.
So while I support Bernie, I don't support those who are waiving his flag as part of anti-other Democrat campaign style. That is pure RF.
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Is it just possible that people who don't believe Sanders can win aren't "afraid" of him? [View all]
Orrex
Apr 2015
OP
It's the Kucinich comparisons and the 'if he is elected we automatically lose!' nonsense
AgingAmerican
Apr 2015
#7
I don't think many people believe he can win right now, but many of us are going to fight
stillwaiting
Apr 2015
#10
Hey, Big portions of the American public ARE shallow. That's why the GOP gets the votes it does.
Adrahil
Apr 2015
#40
Voting machine vote-flip fraud in Ohio in 2004, Voter fiasco in FL in 2000 (hanging chads)
Pooka Fey
Apr 2015
#15
Things are never identical. But if you're going to make name recognition your big argument, then
Marr
Apr 2015
#77
Yes, and it takes money to run enough campaign advertising to make him known. Sanders doesn't
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#89
If they aren't afraid of "him", they should be afraid of the issues he will raise.
PassingFair
Apr 2015
#28
Like asking a question in a church and the howls erupt of 'You're not really saved!'
freshwest
Apr 2015
#39
Then why are people wasting their time desperately pushing the issue if he can't win?
Zorra
Apr 2015
#43
Meh. Whatever. I got two more non-voters to agree to register as Dems and vote for Bernie
Zorra
Apr 2015
#62
How will those six (and the rest) vote on the off chance that Bernie isn't the candidate?
Orrex
Apr 2015
#95
I personally like and respect Bernie Sanders but I do not think that he is viable
Gothmog
Apr 2015
#50
Is it just possible that people who DO believe Sanders can win aren't "fools"?
whatchamacallit
Apr 2015
#57
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Cosmic Kitten
Apr 2015
#73
Guess I haven't been keeping up on the threads. There sure are some stupid arguments on DU.
Vinca
Apr 2015
#78