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Response to VanillaRhapsody (Reply #105)

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 08:04 PM

153. He said he would not run as an independent and be a spoiler like Nader. Don't worry, if he wins,

he will get the vote of Democrats.

Those who will NOT vote are voting for a RW GOP POTUS:

If Bernie Sanders Runs For President, It Won’t Be as an Independent: “I will not be a spoiler”

Naturally, “Will you run for president in 2016?” was the first question DFA Executive Director Charles Chamberlain asked Sanders. Though not definitive, his answer was enough to leave these activists hopeful.

“I am giving very serious consideration to it, but before you make a decision of that magnitude… you have to make sure that you can do it well,” Sanders said. “So what we are doing is reaching out to folks all over this country trying to determine whether or not we can put the grassroots organization together that we need.”

Sanders knows he will have to rely on grassroots mobilization to have a fighting chance at being elected, because his campaign will take on every monied interest. “If I run, we’ll be taking on the billionaire class,” he said. “That’s Wall Street, the drug companies, the military industrial complex.”

To the dismay some idealists, Sanders rejected the idea of running for president as an independent. “No matter what I do, I will not be a spoiler,” Sanders said. “I will not play that role in helping to elect some right-wing Republican as President of the United States.”

http://inthesetimes.com/article/17572/bernie_sanders_president

to pampango:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6140372#top

If he does not win the nomination, he will have taught many in his race and concede with grace. He campaigned against the GOP in 2014, and the alternative to their ruling was clearly by Democrats. He'll support the nominee of the Democratic Party, that I am sure. Obama said essentially, that a vote for Bernie would be like voting for a third term for him.

This primary is finally going to be interesting for all of us. I predict it will make the rightwing media rave and our side will learn a lot, along with the rest of the nation, to get the job done.

I am interested in all Democratic candidates who have shown a serious interest in becoming POTUS and at his point there is only Hillary and Bernie. He has more media coverage than hers, and is more direct. I see where she is coming from... I can grasp where he is coming from better.

I will be glad with both, they each have lessons for Americans to learn to resist aristocracy and inequality. If Sanders holds firm to equality, particularly of half the population of this planet, which would be the true solution to economic issues, I can see HRC supporters getting behind his candidacy if he wins. And HRC herself will. It's really not about the persons who only have a brief time on the world stage, it's about the ideals and lives beyond the one and it's why I'm PROUD to be a DEMOCRAT.

And likewise, if HRC wins, those who care will vote Democratic. We need at least a generation of forward minded people, not those who have fallen for the Bircher line sold by the Koches, to even BEGIN to undo the damage and the horrors that we have seen.

I'm hoping that the real truth teller (not the CT commerical versions of the truth bringing about a Libertarian nightmare) the man in Baltimore who described the reason for the misery and violence in this country, will offer support to Bernie's candidacy, or influence his friends of means, and the fan base of the various cities, to help:

Orioles COO John Angelos offers eye-opening perspective on Baltimore protests

"My greater source of personal concern, outrage and sympathy beyond this particular case is focused neither upon one night’s property damage nor upon the acts, but is focused rather upon the past four-decade period during which an American political elite have shipped middle class and working class jobs away from Baltimore and cities and towns around the U.S. to third-world dictatorships like China and others, plunged tens of millions of good, hard-working Americans into economic devastation, and then followed that action around the nation by diminishing every American’s civil rights protections in order to control an unfairly impoverished population living under an ever-declining standard of living and suffering at the butt end of an ever-more militarized and aggressive surveillance state."

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/04/orioles-john-angelos-baltimore-protests-mlb

to chalmers:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026574923

This is the unifying cry of the American vision. As FDR said:

A liberal is a man who uses his legs and his hands at the behest - at the command - of his head. We build a way of life, not for America alone, but for all mankind.

That kind of 'exceptionalism,' I can get behind. Millions who came here since then came because of that vision. It is a 'work in progress.' And the war that has been declared upon the African American population for centuries will end under principled hands by Democrats. JMHO.

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