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In reply to the discussion: Appreciation thread for President Barack Obama~ [View all]okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)45. I won't attack you but I will correct you: He never "moved away from single payer" he NEVER
claimed that was what he would do if elected. Going back to 2004 he has always said he liked single payer but with the system we have now it wasn't feasable. The ACA did, however, allow for the individual states to go single payer. One state wanted to (Vermont I think) but realized it wasn't economically possible.
In other statements, Obama has spoken favorably of single-payer in concept, but always adding qualifiers.
In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as "Support, but 'probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today.
In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as "Support, but 'probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today.
His recent statement calling liberals wrong or whatever: They were wrong. They claimed that Obama wouldn't let them see the TPP, which isn't true, and made other statements that weren't true. Granted, those statements were in fund raising letters so one has to take the claims with a grain of salt, but the bottom line is: what they claimed wasn't true.
The insurance friendly ACA: I'll dispute that as well. The insurance industry is now capped on profit. They must use 85 cents of every dollar on medical care. That means their operating expenses and profit must come from the remainder. If it was so insurance friendly why was the insurance industry secretly lobbying to defeat it? The insurance industry also didn't get two things it desperately wanted and are still fighting for: 1. Having to cover pre-existing conditions and 2. the cap on profits
You make several references to his ties to Wall Street, but offer no supporting information. Just because they couldn't prosecute Wall St (and this was after the crash when they had likely destroyed any incriminating evidence) doesn't mean he's in their pocket.
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They won't be happy until we get a Libertarian POTUS. Then they'll extoll HIS greatness.
freshwest
Apr 2015
#33
Being skeptical of another so-called "Free Trade" Agreement isn't irrational.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#31
All multi-party contract negotiations, including trade deals and peace talks
lovemydog
Apr 2015
#108
Dear sheshe. We don't have to see the final draft. What we've seen so far tells
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#37
No, if you didn't like NAFTA neither does Tomas Perez and President Obama.. who have learned
Cha
Apr 2015
#9
I suspect some of their candidates are familiar with the mythologies of straw dogs and Jesus:
freshwest
Apr 2015
#106
I am, too! MAN, I don't know how I would withstand the criticism and the constant fault-finding and
calimary
Apr 2015
#84
Yes it's clear the trolls are back at work. I guess they have more scheduled for the weekend. It is
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#30
I won't attack you but I will correct you: He never "moved away from single payer" he NEVER
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#43
I won't attack you but I will correct you: He never "moved away from single payer" he NEVER
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#45
The right isn't God given, it's given by the international laws of warfare. That is the problem with
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#68
Either they don't have the technology some have drones but they either don't have lethal
okaawhatever
Apr 2015
#81
"We don't give a shit about cults of personality." This is an appreciation thread for the
Cha
Apr 2015
#98
No, she meant what she posted.. it's an Appreciation thread for President Obama.. for all he's done
Cha
Apr 2015
#99
no, he's been dishonest about this and he's teaming up with the republicans to shove the tpp
cali
Apr 2015
#100
No one expected a "magical being." What a truly dumb fucking thing for that blogger to say.
SMC22307
Apr 2015
#130
I'm Ready For Oligarchy - Are You? - Support Obama On TPP - What Better Way To Enrich The 1% More
cantbeserious
Apr 2015
#133