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MattSh

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4. So, the US, the EU, and NATO go in and wreck their country...

Reply to underahedgerow (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:28 AM

Apr 2015

then on top of that deny them entry elsewhere?

Lovely strategy, although a bit genocidal if you ask me.

“We fear the arrival of immigrants that we have drawn here with the wealth we stole from them.” - Patrick Boyle

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Why Europe Lets People Drown - The Automatic Earth [View all] MattSh Apr 2015 OP

It's Europe's fault that the smugglers used a shitty boat? DetlefK Apr 2015 #1

Check out Europe's role in the wars in the ME and North Africa malaise Apr 2015 #8

If not America and Europe, who are the shining beacons of human rights and dignity? DetlefK Apr 2015 #10

There are no shining beacons of human rights and dignity malaise Apr 2015 #19

You are not very good at making your argument. DetlefK Apr 2015 #22

Because America and Europe have imposed their preferred dictators in their countries malaise Apr 2015 #27

Now you are trying to have it both ways. DetlefK Apr 2015 #30

No you adress Amerca's and Europe's current roles malaise Apr 2015 #31

Just 4 things: DetlefK Apr 2015 #34

Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #36

And we all know the Brits are famous for their humor. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #43

Your kind? Looks to me that you are the one making generalizations and deflecting from suffragette Apr 2015 #49

Excellent post sis malaise Apr 2015 #52

Thanks sis suffragette Apr 2015 #58

Eurocentrism is uncurable. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #44

We did get involved in Iran 50 years ago treestar Apr 2015 #41

So Europe and America (I assume you mean North America, or just the United States of America?) snooper2 Apr 2015 #50

"what Europe did to Africa to enrich one race of folks was the worst genocide in history" EX500rider Apr 2015 #45

Australia has had a policy for many years of denying entry to asylum seekers by the boatload underahedgerow Apr 2015 #2

So, the US, the EU, and NATO go in and wreck their country... MattSh Apr 2015 #4

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Apr 2015 #32

Which countries are wrecked? treestar Apr 2015 #42

Russia has had a hand in Syria's civil war, too Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #48

Britian stole Australia from the indigenous people malaise Apr 2015 #20

This is just the leading edge of the coming tsunami of climate/economic refugees GliderGuider Apr 2015 #3

The UN thinks Africa's population will double by 2050 AngryAmish Apr 2015 #12

+100 - Questions that everyone needs to be asking themselves. nt GliderGuider Apr 2015 #17

Interesting thread going on right now at city data forum from european's perspective E-Z-B Apr 2015 #5

Full of racists, like most city data forums are. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #16

It's echoing this entire thread on DU. Are you calling everyone here racists, too? E-Z-B Apr 2015 #18

Moral High Ground? SCVDem Apr 2015 #6

"Europe" "let" ??? treestar Apr 2015 #7

Under UN Refugee Treaty, they have all vowed not to "refoule" (return) people fleeing persecution leveymg Apr 2015 #11

I think under the UN plan the cases start treestar Apr 2015 #13

No. Under the UN Refugee treaty, asylum is supposed to be granted by receiving countries on arrival. leveymg Apr 2015 #21

That doesn't address the charge that Europe were somehow responsible for the deaths. DetlefK Apr 2015 #24

There are three aspects to Europe's responsibility for these refugees. leveymg Apr 2015 #26

Europe didn't block access to asylum treestar Apr 2015 #35

The images we saw yesterday were from a sinking near the coast, within territorial waters leveymg Apr 2015 #38

Again where does the UN treaty say anything about all that? treestar Apr 2015 #40

You're confusing the UN Refugee Convention with the UN Charter leveymg Apr 2015 #47

So has the UN determined that the US or France treestar Apr 2015 #54

Didn't in the case of Iraq, either. leveymg Apr 2015 #55

Yeah, this is a bit over the top for me -- Europe can hardly accept huge boatloads Nay Apr 2015 #9

And these aren't even the poorest people TexasMommaWithAHat Apr 2015 #14

When does Italy become responsible for them? 1939 Apr 2015 #15

When they enter territorial waters or when they make a refugee claim and have ties to Italy. leveymg Apr 2015 #23

I believe it's when they set foot on the ground, literally. And the bigger question is Why should underahedgerow Apr 2015 #25

Entering territorial waters is the same as setting foot across a land border, as far as UNHCR leveymg Apr 2015 #28

We've been letting Haitians drown on their way here cwydro Apr 2015 #29

Because the migrants are Black Africans 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #33

Many are Arabs.i think the current rise is mostly because JI7 Apr 2015 #57

I feel for Europe. moondust Apr 2015 #37

There was a time...... DeSwiss Apr 2015 #39

Very well said malaise Apr 2015 #46

Yep. This message will be ignored by racists, bigots, and other undesirables, closeupready Apr 2015 #56

Europe lets people drown... Spider Jerusalem Apr 2015 #51

I get it JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #53