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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)297. Yeah, not cool talking about activists like they are insects, huh? About those litanies:
Another one who is 'more libertarian than anything else' is Alex Jones. Who supports - LOL - Rand Paul for POTUS, followed by another one he says he *really* likes - who woulda guessed - none other than Ted Cruz! This 'more libertarian than anything else' is part of a long running scam on Democrats to create F.U.D.
I stumbled on a view from an ABC story - no kidding and tortured myself watching a video of the imminent 'collapse of the dollar!!!111!!' while Ron Paul was interviewed by Alex Jones in January of this year.
They used the familiar bogeymen, 'federal reserve' evil, 'banksters' evil, MartialLaw© to be declared by the 'unitary executive,' AKA the 'imperial presidency of Obama,' etc. They threw in the now mandatory false flags on every news story, too.
Note, I'm editing this as I go:
They carried on about the banksters (guess who first came up with that name - yes, invoking Godwin) as if they are so different from the evil corporations that are their bread and butter. And they never saw a regulation on a corporation they liked, not about pollution or tax breaks or anything.
And that 'federal reserve evil' thing - let's get rid of the only public regulation of the banks - let's see, who is in favor of that and been pushing it for years - none other than old Charles Koch hisself. But then, they're a Koch creation. And their fans are useful tools.
Then Paul and Jones proceeded to blow all the dog whistles!
They explained how the riots that will cause 'MartialLaw©,' will be because of the 'inner city' people who just happen to be poor (and *cough* black people, but they were smart enough to not say it directly, 'cause they're not racist, you know!) Paul said it's because they have 'an entitlement mentality' and want 'welfare.' Not kidding me.
All said with that oh, so familiar Clive Bundy 'Let me tell you about the Negro' tone. *winkwink* Oh, yeah, true voice of progressives!
Then they bloviated about the events in Ferguson, without bringing up the death of Michael Brown, huh. You'd think they'd have mentioned his name...
And how the protestors (who just so happened to be - uh - black, but don't mention that) had burnt down businesses and not respected property rights as they 'didn't understand the 2nd amendment there' and did it because they were incited by 'race baiters,' that is Sharpton (specifically mentioned as 'how could anyone think he represents anyone?') and unsaid miscreants like Obama, Holder, Democrats, etc. No, let's not bring up Michael Brown's name. And where, pray tell, are they when whites go on a rampage?
It's always *crickets* or *false flag* if white people do it. And they are for personhood laws (against the rights of women over their bodies), eliminating public schools as 'indoctrination centers' as Bircher literature says, Social Security, rights for immigrants, gays and for church schools and theoracy, and all that uber progressive stuff!
Paul really gets on my last nerve when he gets that smarmy tone and starts talking that shit. Black people aren't really progressive, and don't know what they are talking about, is what we can take away from this thread here... BTW, that's not racist!
And it got worse from there...
Needless to say we've got so many Libertarians, like Bryan Fischer, Rand Paul (both 'concerned' about teh gay) and the old standbys. I see things with themes to appeal to liberals and Democrats, or make them outraged. When you follow the links, they all go to websites like 'Reason.'
Ain't fooling me. None of 'em.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026535107#post14
I looked it up because Paul was warning 'seniors' to look out for a disastrous change about the devastation to hit this year and change everyone's lives, so that 'seniors and anyone who lives on government assistance' will be hurt. They must be prepared!
All caused by Obama, the federal reserve, banksters, etc. That rumor is that it will hit in the month of September. Old Paul was just so *concerned* about seniors - but he must NOT be listening to what HIS party is doing right now! Who's kidding who here?
So much deflection in all this canned bullshit. I can tell what some posters are hearing from their buzz words. The Bilderbergers, the all encompassing evil of those rich guys! Except these are evil rich guys, not like their heroes who love all the poors (well not quite) so much, so get out and go vote for Rand Paul! Or Ted Cruz!
The mind of a person who can hold together the idea that Paul cares about seniors, as that was how it was billed on the ABC website while supporting 'Throw Granny under the bus' Paul Ryan and 'All disabled people are lazy' Rand Paul and 'Their wealth should be taken from and given to the Righteous' Ted Cruz at once, is mindboggling.
The Pauls won't even say the word Democrat, and Alex ALWAYS says the word with a SNEER. This is subliminal manipulation at its worst, where people don't recognize it while the demagogues wave the shiny in front of them. And facts do no good in these arguments, because it's talking to a cult. Don't you just love the 'facts' without links posts, LOL.
I stumbled on a view from an ABC story - no kidding and tortured myself watching a video of the imminent 'collapse of the dollar!!!111!!' while Ron Paul was interviewed by Alex Jones in January of this year.
They used the familiar bogeymen, 'federal reserve' evil, 'banksters' evil, MartialLaw© to be declared by the 'unitary executive,' AKA the 'imperial presidency of Obama,' etc. They threw in the now mandatory false flags on every news story, too.
Note, I'm editing this as I go:
They carried on about the banksters (guess who first came up with that name - yes, invoking Godwin) as if they are so different from the evil corporations that are their bread and butter. And they never saw a regulation on a corporation they liked, not about pollution or tax breaks or anything.
And that 'federal reserve evil' thing - let's get rid of the only public regulation of the banks - let's see, who is in favor of that and been pushing it for years - none other than old Charles Koch hisself. But then, they're a Koch creation. And their fans are useful tools.
Then Paul and Jones proceeded to blow all the dog whistles!
They explained how the riots that will cause 'MartialLaw©,' will be because of the 'inner city' people who just happen to be poor (and *cough* black people, but they were smart enough to not say it directly, 'cause they're not racist, you know!) Paul said it's because they have 'an entitlement mentality' and want 'welfare.' Not kidding me.
All said with that oh, so familiar Clive Bundy 'Let me tell you about the Negro' tone. *winkwink* Oh, yeah, true voice of progressives!
Then they bloviated about the events in Ferguson, without bringing up the death of Michael Brown, huh. You'd think they'd have mentioned his name...
And how the protestors (who just so happened to be - uh - black, but don't mention that) had burnt down businesses and not respected property rights as they 'didn't understand the 2nd amendment there' and did it because they were incited by 'race baiters,' that is Sharpton (specifically mentioned as 'how could anyone think he represents anyone?') and unsaid miscreants like Obama, Holder, Democrats, etc. No, let's not bring up Michael Brown's name. And where, pray tell, are they when whites go on a rampage?
It's always *crickets* or *false flag* if white people do it. And they are for personhood laws (against the rights of women over their bodies), eliminating public schools as 'indoctrination centers' as Bircher literature says, Social Security, rights for immigrants, gays and for church schools and theoracy, and all that uber progressive stuff!
Paul really gets on my last nerve when he gets that smarmy tone and starts talking that shit. Black people aren't really progressive, and don't know what they are talking about, is what we can take away from this thread here... BTW, that's not racist!
And it got worse from there...
Needless to say we've got so many Libertarians, like Bryan Fischer, Rand Paul (both 'concerned' about teh gay) and the old standbys. I see things with themes to appeal to liberals and Democrats, or make them outraged. When you follow the links, they all go to websites like 'Reason.'
Ain't fooling me. None of 'em.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026535107#post14
I looked it up because Paul was warning 'seniors' to look out for a disastrous change about the devastation to hit this year and change everyone's lives, so that 'seniors and anyone who lives on government assistance' will be hurt. They must be prepared!
All caused by Obama, the federal reserve, banksters, etc. That rumor is that it will hit in the month of September. Old Paul was just so *concerned* about seniors - but he must NOT be listening to what HIS party is doing right now! Who's kidding who here?
So much deflection in all this canned bullshit. I can tell what some posters are hearing from their buzz words. The Bilderbergers, the all encompassing evil of those rich guys! Except these are evil rich guys, not like their heroes who love all the poors (well not quite) so much, so get out and go vote for Rand Paul! Or Ted Cruz!
The mind of a person who can hold together the idea that Paul cares about seniors, as that was how it was billed on the ABC website while supporting 'Throw Granny under the bus' Paul Ryan and 'All disabled people are lazy' Rand Paul and 'Their wealth should be taken from and given to the Righteous' Ted Cruz at once, is mindboggling.
The Pauls won't even say the word Democrat, and Alex ALWAYS says the word with a SNEER. This is subliminal manipulation at its worst, where people don't recognize it while the demagogues wave the shiny in front of them. And facts do no good in these arguments, because it's talking to a cult. Don't you just love the 'facts' without links posts, LOL.
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LOL...links to any of Hillary's comments on recent police shooting tragedies?
Cosmic Kitten
Apr 2015
#65
Yes, it is your Pet Issue, Afrian American 16% of population~Justice is everyones concern!
lewebley3
Apr 2015
#384
Hillary is a progressive, If she appears corporatist: You don't know the facts about Hillary!!
lewebley3
Apr 2015
#181
Wrong,Goldwater and Millers children are liberals, they claim their Daddy's would be libs
lewebley3
Apr 2015
#386
Maybe on social but she is definately not progressive on Free Trade Agreements,
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#393
The IWR was a bigger clusterfuck by many orders of magnitude, but regardless
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#395
Well she did base her argument in favor of the IWR on her husband's actions in 1998.
JTFrog
Apr 2015
#398
No, most of the criticisms I would level at HRC can apply to her husband, as well.
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#408
The term middle class will be thrown around a lot too, doesn't mean she will actually
liberal_at_heart
Apr 2015
#410
no - when we fight amongst ourselves and want perfection the right-wing destroys us
samsingh
Apr 2015
#377
You're still making a false comparison when you keep comparing her to Republicans.
cui bono
Apr 2015
#404
Sure, I have a friend who put 50k on Mayweather...He's rich. I'm broke...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#105
bwah haa haa...I quoted you word for word. How is that putting words in your mouth?
Sheepshank
Apr 2015
#138
hello...it's spelled AVATAR....do you have a banner that says "Moran" too ;) n/t
Sheepshank
Apr 2015
#247
The problem is you can not claim to speak for the 99% after denying that 'social activists' are the
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#107
What I actually said was this, "The 99% need someone to fight for them not just for social issues
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#119
yeah, the arguing about your personalities is your trip. I'm talking about the 'social issues' you
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#133
I guess if you can't discuss the issue, you make it all about the posters.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#147
You are putting words in my mouth apparently to be able to express your outrage.
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#204
Exactly the way I feel: I don't have any other candidate I support(I think Warren....
marble falls
Apr 2015
#374
I'm a "Sander-ite". Yeah I know winning this horse race is an uphill battle but having been to many
Autumn
Apr 2015
#120
that's clearly NOT the low bar I was referring to. You seem to have problems with very
cali
Apr 2015
#125
Huge fail: but what a low bar it is that she's better than any of the insane, reactionary repukes.
cali
Apr 2015
#149
You read it right the first time, notwithstanding the poster's later attempts to recover.
Tarheel_Dem
Apr 2015
#237
Really, maybe you might want to say that to one of the Hillary Clinton supporters as well
davidpdx
Apr 2015
#367
I think it's fascinating that so many HRC supporters ignore the strong evidence that
cali
Apr 2015
#91
I wish your post made even a scrap of sense. You can't argue my points because you
cali
Apr 2015
#110
“Even when you have a deep friendship with someone, you have to put the people first.”
demmiblue
Apr 2015
#10
Isn't it fun when you dangle a string in front of your cat and they go crazy?
brooklynite
Apr 2015
#19
Many people are compelled to tell themselves that the mere opinions of others
LanternWaste
Apr 2015
#177
I don't think that's a very good or effective argument- and there are good arguments
cali
Apr 2015
#32
Henry Kissinger has worked with every administration since Nixon in some capacity.
onehandle
Apr 2015
#43
Yes, they did. I am talking about the crowds that greeted Shah on his return. Those crowds were
MADem
Apr 2015
#244
Mandela learned the tools that facilitated tne END OF APARTHEID from that man he's hugging in that
MADem
Apr 2015
#290
I'll never forgive Hillary Clinton for toadying up with this monster. This line cannot be uncrossed!
NBachers
Apr 2015
#142
"I can come up with a half dozen people who can win in 2016 that are more progressive than her."
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#115
Wow, are you ignorant.. calling a strong independent woman like Bertha Lewis "an ass kisser.."
Cha
Apr 2015
#364
The same complainers saying the same thing over and over, cognitive dissonance does not change
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#36
Sid, are we seeing a familiar face? Oh, wait, don't spoil the fun yet! You and Skinner, huh? n/t
freshwest
Apr 2015
#316
I don't think she's a liberal heroine but for me she's liberal enough.
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#123
She might not be the best, she certainly is not the worst, and no president is perfect! We need
RKP5637
Apr 2015
#60
people to believe that she's a progressive leader- despite the mountains of evidence
cali
Apr 2015
#72
. . .and, along with Gen. Petraeus, brought peace and stability to the entire Middle East-N. Africa!
leveymg
Apr 2015
#126
Is H. Clinton progressive? Yes on social issues. Those issues that don't cost Goldman-Sachs and
rhett o rick
Apr 2015
#63
Exactly. For me, it ain't even about wealth. It's about leaving a viable ecosystem.
raouldukelives
Apr 2015
#182
Wow! I love it when the hyperbolic violence-hoping HRC supporters come out to play.
djean111
Apr 2015
#73
So you will call out anti-Hillary posters who use those terms as violence hoping?
hrmjustin
Apr 2015
#209
So, straight white man does not think African American woman has a right to speak for herself?
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#111
How freaking RUDE of that poster to say Bertha Lewis came out of the woodwork. It's
Cha
Apr 2015
#171
Used to work with ACORN many, many years ago. Majority were AA's. Quiet, steady, effective, expert.
freshwest
Apr 2015
#273
Yeah, like I said, I have respect for that kind of "woodwork." They help people.
MADem
Apr 2015
#275
Yeah, not cool talking about activists like they are insects, huh? About those litanies:
freshwest
Apr 2015
#297
You're missing the point by a mile. Early endorsements are the most valuable. Someone with none...
Hekate
Apr 2015
#219
Like I said just below, Senator Warren was grateful for a panoply of endorsements, including that of
MADem
Apr 2015
#231
Yes you were. Sorry, you're not going to pivot and change the subject like that.
MADem
Apr 2015
#236
You were dissing the concept of endorsements, and I'm not the only one who saw that.
MADem
Apr 2015
#268
Yeah, whatever--I read what you wrote and quoted you. Now run along and have a real nice day.
MADem
Apr 2015
#285
THIS endorsement from ACORN put a smile on my face, tears in my eyes and filled my heart with joy.
freshwest
Apr 2015
#280
Yeah, tell us all about how some politicians don't need endorsements again....!!!
MADem
Apr 2015
#281
That's very interesting, I also dislike the combat, boxing match jargon but yesterday it as an
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2015
#199
Nice endorsement. She is indeed a fierce fighter and probably the most qualified of any candidate..
DCBob
Apr 2015
#169
Jeez reading the responses you get the sense that you weren't allowed to have an opinion.
hrmjustin
Apr 2015
#178
You don't seem to understand that the entire purpose of a political campaign IS marketing.
NYC Liberal
Apr 2015
#428
Yet she crushes all her presumptive Republican opponents in the polls
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#267
On this issue Hillary is more aligned with Orrin Hatch than American workers!
cascadiance
Apr 2015
#269
Funny how those wanting to use Ms. Lewis were among those who bought the lies and supported
TheKentuckian
Apr 2015
#300
Zombie................ what's in your head................... people are dying.
Ichingcarpenter
Apr 2015
#328
At least the logo people Hillary hired got the arrow pointing in the right direction.
Ikonoklast
Apr 2015
#325
What's interesting about this thread is the HRC supporters acting like bullies.
cui bono
Apr 2015
#350
Brawaaa.. they don't like Bertha Lewis' opinion so they try to marginalize her progressive creds..
Cha
Apr 2015
#363
"Why do you always think you can read minds? How arrogant... Your insults are "tea baggerish" and
Cha
Apr 2015
#414
I just saw BB's thread about the sock puppets and I thought he was one of them. What an
Cha
Apr 2015
#427