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freshwest

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9. Seattle did. They were widely dissed by talk radio for building a 'drunk motel' for people who were
Sun Apr 19, 2015, 04:09 PM
Apr 2015
unable to break their addictions in spite of years of drehabilitation programs. I think the standard was 7 failures.

It was supported by the Catholic Diocese of Seattle, as people were dying of hypothermia at the time downtown. The people in the upscale housing, where some high rise condos start at a million, didn't like them living on the sidewalk, either.

And the cost of their trips to ER's, being jailed for whatever, was far less than giving them guilt free housing without any expectation except being peaceful, IIRC at the time.

The rightwing hate radio claimed the bleeding heart liberals were going to provide faucets in the apartments that dispensed 'free wine for the winos,' on the taxpayer's dime. Rightwingers didn't see the big picture, that it not only benefited the tenants, but the very well off and you know they love them.

The RW refuses to acknowledge the way government could make a difference for those whose brains would never be able to escape their addictions. Having a roof over one's head changes everything in a person's life for the better and that of those around them who can't cure them.

Arizona also built apartments for those trying to get on their feet. When they finally had the security of knowing where they would sleep at night, a bed, bath and kitchen to take care of basic needs, many improved to the point of going to school to learn new skills and have jobs. All from having housing.

This is not rocket science, but it does require leaving behind the punitive, petty, conservative mindset.

And pretty soon, the newly-homed are in positions to become contributing members of society. Octafish Apr 2015 #1
Well, Octafish, my pleasure. You flatter me! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #2
Yep. Sometimes there are simple answers. hifiguy Apr 2015 #41
San Francisco could easily do this yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #3
Yeah, true blue SF hasn't thought of this? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #7
Seattle did. They were widely dissed by talk radio for building a 'drunk motel' for people who were freshwest Apr 2015 #9
And, that's the rub...the puritan mind-twist is so strong in the 'Murcan psyche. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #10
Yes, and I need to spell check there! When in a hurry, mistakes happen. freshwest Apr 2015 #11
What is this 'social Darwinism' you speak of? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #12
Social Darwinim is the survival of the fittest economically, eugenics by wealth. Very Ayn Rand but freshwest Apr 2015 #18
I was trying to be ironic, fresh. I guess I should have used Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #19
I suspected you were using it, but wanted to explain it in case some were NEVER taught about it. freshwest Apr 2015 #25
Punitive, petty, conservative mindset. Exactly. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #26
Right wingers judgmental and punitive as always treestar Apr 2015 #36
It must be a cultural thing. The expression was Christianity 101 when I was growing up. freshwest Apr 2015 #45
.... LittleBlue Apr 2015 #39
we don't have vacant homes in San Francisco CreekDog Apr 2015 #20
I believe you addressed this to the wrong person? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #21
I didn't take it as "shaming" San Francisco... where I also live and (luckily) own a home. deurbano Apr 2015 #23
Thank you. K&R woo me with science Apr 2015 #4
You're welcome. This system should become best practice in all Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #5
“If you want to end homelessness, you put people in housing...” freshwest Apr 2015 #6
^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #8
You know, I bet we could solve hunger the same way. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #35
I understand the popularity of this story, but it is not applicable everywhere. maxsolomon Apr 2015 #13
I see you are of the 'glass half empty' school. Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #16
Well said, Surya Gayatri! And thank you for this thread. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #28
My pleasure, Enthusiast! Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #31
that hardly follows reddread Apr 2015 #42
book marking for later reading Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #14
LA is doing this Liberal_in_LA Apr 2015 #15
Well, if they can't ELIMINATE homelessness in one go, I guess Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #17
just beware that people are using the rubric of housing first reddread Apr 2015 #22
Would that not be fraudulent use of federal monies? Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #24
is there any other kind? reddread Apr 2015 #33
Sorry, was this intended as an answer to my question about the Utah Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #34
I cannot speak to the Utah experience reddread Apr 2015 #40
I worked for a homeless agency for eight years. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #27
When will we learn to invest in human potential rather than Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #29
Exactly! JDPriestly Apr 2015 #30
What an excellent post! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #32
That also goes against the right wing meme treestar Apr 2015 #37
Very well said... Surya Gayatri Apr 2015 #38
The image of the man in the snow storm should go viral, like the story. freshwest Apr 2015 #43
Yes, spread the word. Many grateful people there. libdem4life Apr 2015 #44
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