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ellennelle

(614 posts)
13. excellent point
Wed Apr 15, 2015, 08:04 AM
Apr 2015

one that could easily be extended to the police and even the military (though this latter can get a bit dicey); might an officer refuse to protect a prostitute who is being beaten by her pimp? might a soldier refuse to protect his buddy because the guy is muslim. (though obviously this latter, as noted, does get dicey; the entire military training enterprise based, as it is, on dehumanizing the enemy, 'other'-izing them, so war will 'work'. see krauts, japs, kikes, russkies, reds, sand monkeys etc. ad nauseam.....)

clearly, at the very least, professional organizations should be requiring conscience clauses of their own, ones that insist - as say, the medical profession does - that 'do no harm' is the fundamental and defining principle of all these professions of service. if you dream of being a firefighter or a doctor or a school nurse or a policeman or a pharmacist (even a dentist, fer chrissake), your oath should be always to serve those in need. period. end of discussion. then, if any of these jamooks want to defer first to their religious dictates, abandoning their professional oath, that's fine. but they then lose their license to practice, are fired from the force, are stripped of their front line active duties.

which would then beg the question: why did they take the oath in the first place? why did they even dream of serving others first, when their real allegiance is to an antiquated and inhumane religious cultic dictate?

but really, we need not go that far. why aren't these people being asked to apply the words of their supposed savior? i mean really; it's not that hard to determine what jesus would do in these instances.

the internal contradictions these people carry around in their heads day in and day out make my brain burn.

bottom line for approaching this problem, though, is we should be targeting the national and state professional organizations to threaten the licenses of the religious fanatics; the states that refuse should be denied acceptance at the national level, where we should apply the greatest pressure. i say this because as a psychologist, we went through years of hell getting the APA to impose a 'no torture' principle. it was the most shameful episode in my profession's history, and parallels could be drawn between that and what is happening with these religious fanatics. the APA was in bed with military for funding tons of research (much of it nefarious), and begging the congress to allow psychologists to prescribe drugs. the APA could justify this exception to 'do no harm' because they knelt at the altar of the almighty dollar.

and so it goes....

K&R 1,000,000 ! LiberalElite Apr 2015 #1
AND ANOTHER 1,000,000!!!!!! calimary Apr 2015 #61
Kicked and recommended In_The_Wind Apr 2015 #2
The Christian Taliban wants America to be a theocracy Novara Apr 2015 #3
^^^^ - a perfect description of the fundies. erronis Apr 2015 #24
+1 Johonny Apr 2015 #33
Teahadist Talibangelists alterfurz Apr 2015 #39
and ANY repub or teaparty person taking the WH in 2017 NoJusticeNoPeace Apr 2015 #51
And that's the exact opposite of the America the founding fathers envisioned. Initech Apr 2015 #56
When I was Studying to Become a Citizen, I Read Your Constitution Unexploded Scotsman Apr 2015 #63
RP hits another one out of the park! tularetom Apr 2015 #4
How is a pharmacist contradicting a doctor on a matter of medicine not 'practicing medicine'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #5
great arguement there. bravo! eom LittleGirl Apr 2015 #8
The pharmacist should be charged with practicing Ilsa Apr 2015 #9
That is a very intriguing point! Pacifist Patriot Apr 2015 #31
Exactly BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #36
sadly, the "pharamcist" is a her. other than that, absolutely agree, except that georgia niyad Apr 2015 #42
The only reason she might get in trouble, is that she (the pharmicist) gave the wrong justification Kber Apr 2015 #47
I've always thought that a prescription is a "Doctor's Order". mwooldri Apr 2015 #52
I Like It ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #6
World-class Rude - and so very correct hatrack Apr 2015 #7
K&R! Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #10
I agree davidpdx Apr 2015 #11
The pain and sorrow Brittany Cartrett was already experiencing was awful enough deutsey Apr 2015 #12
excellent point ellennelle Apr 2015 #13
The right gets so worked up about the government getting between a person and her doctor. Brickbat Apr 2015 #14
Kicked and recommended a brazillion times. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #15
K&R n/t handmade34 Apr 2015 #16
He is spot-on with that last sentence. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #17
K & R & R & R DeadLetterOffice Apr 2015 #18
The first paragraph was awesome! LOL! nt Lucky Luciano Apr 2015 #19
Self delusion Augiedog Apr 2015 #20
Freaking, A., Mr. Rude! My, he certainly hit this one out of the park. catbyte Apr 2015 #21
Outstanding. K&R. Paladin Apr 2015 #22
Rude boy aces it again! TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #23
Precisely. mnhtnbb Apr 2015 #25
Big K&R valerief Apr 2015 #26
Pharmacies and pharmacists The Wizard Apr 2015 #27
Bravo! marym625 Apr 2015 #28
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can u imagine the Rude One being a guest on "Real Time?" NoMoreRepugs Apr 2015 #32
Hurting people is not a religion. DirkGently Apr 2015 #34
Used to be, if you wanted to avoid thucythucy Apr 2015 #35
Reading the thread on the Facebook post was very sad, with other women BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #37
The SCOTUS sanctioned this type of bullshit.... Novara Apr 2015 #38
The Rude Pundit Rocks! Leith Apr 2015 #40
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So since I support animal rights, Alkene Apr 2015 #43
I know 2 people who are pharmacists... Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #44
A novel ahead of its time LiberalLovinLug Apr 2015 #45
Very good Kber Apr 2015 #46
K&R Rude. Bohunk68 Apr 2015 #48
Kick and Rec. hifiguy Apr 2015 #49
Another thought is,,,, benld74 Apr 2015 #50
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K & R for the truth of the Rude Pundit.. great article. mountain grammy Apr 2015 #54
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Fuck the fundies who refuse to do their job Stainless Apr 2015 #57
The Rude One strikes to the heart of the matter yet again. longship Apr 2015 #58
Forget Sharia law, fear Scalia law and his teabagger fundie zombies. kairos12 Apr 2015 #59
The Rude Pundit has been an ally to women for since I first found him. BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2015 #60
Hell yes, if you take the job, do the work.... daleanime Apr 2015 #62
Bravo! Bullshit far too often gets in the way of people's ability to do their job. Initech Apr 2015 #64
I want to agree, I really do. Flatpicker Apr 2015 #65
I didn't take the OP's article to have used that broad of a brush. cui bono Apr 2015 #68
K & R, hugely !!!!!!!!!! Thespian2 Apr 2015 #66
If you don't want to fill prescriptions... cui bono Apr 2015 #67
If my religion ejbr Apr 2015 #69
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