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94. Unfortunately, he Can be full of Shite and he is.. but, obvisously doesn't matter to his fan club.

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:02 AM

Apr 2015

Here are the 13 most bizarre things from Snowden’s NBC News interview.

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1) Snowden claimed he has “no relationship” with the Russian government and that he’s “not supported” by it. That’s odd, given how the Russian government has twice offered him asylum and one of his lawyers, Anatoly Kucherena, is an attorney with the Russian intelligence agency, the FSB (formerly the KGB). Tell me again why anyone should trust this guy?

3) Snowden said that no one has been harmed by his disclosures. Yet. Already, though, one of his documents escalated tensions between Australia and Indonesia, and another document endangered lives in Afghanistan to the point where Greenwald refused to publish the name of that country. It’s only a matter of time, sadly.

4) Early on, Snowden said, “I’m not a spy.” Later he famously confessed to being “trained as a spy.” Huh?

6) NSA can “absolutely” turn on your iPhone, which is “pretty scary.” This section was like whiplash. Snowden started out by sounding reasonable by defining that NSA only acquires data when “targeting” drug dealers or terrorists. And then, BLAM!, this shitola about NSA being able to turn on your phone. If true, why hasn’t this been disclosed from Snowden’s NSA documents?

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http://thedailybanter.com/2014/05/13-bizarre-things-edward-snowdens-nbc-news-interview/

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On June 12 Snowden leaked specific IP addresses in China and Hong Kong the NSA was hacking to the South China Morning Post. Snowden also told SCMP that he intended to leak more documents later.

"If I have time to go through this information, I would like to make it available to journalists in each country to make their own assessment," the 30-year-old said. He added: "I did not release them earlier because I don't want to simply dump huge amounts of documents without regard to their content.

Greenwald told The Daily Beast that he wouldn't have disclosed the IP addresses, and that Snowden did it "to ingratiate himself to the people of Hong Kong and China.” That indicates Snowden was capable of leaking classified information after parting ways with Greenwald, Poitras, and MacAskill.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/when-did-snowden-give-up-the-nsa-files-2013-10

LOL.. yeah, holding Snowden Accountable is nothing like what he Wanted to do to Leakers.. "shoot them in the balls

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So now it is official -- Snowden has leaked MILITARY intelligence secrets [View all] Blue_Tires Apr 2015 OP

It doesn't protect your rights, MineralMan Apr 2015 #1

The individuals who abused these programs and spied illegally on allies and the American people... 951-Riverside Apr 2015 #2

Okay but which individuals besides Snowden have acted illegally? ucrdem Apr 2015 #19

Depends on how you interpret the 4th Amencment to the Constitution of the United States. merrily Apr 2015 #60

Because let's face it. Savannahmann Apr 2015 #74

This is the problem with Snowden and Manning qazplm Apr 2015 #3

thanks for posting this irisblue Apr 2015 #4

Mercy me. He outed more US spying. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2015 #5

His greatest crime was humiliating Obama LittleBlue Apr 2015 #12

Bingo! QC Apr 2015 #16

That appears to have been a primary objective, yes. ucrdem Apr 2015 #22

No, that was not his primary objective. The knee-jerk emotional reaction is simply a sideshow cui bono Apr 2015 #24

I wouldn't call a RW disinfo stunt criticism, and I wouldn't idolize the perps. nt ucrdem Apr 2015 #25

So? What does that have to do with Snowden? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #26

Probably very little operationally. ucrdem Apr 2015 #27

Who is this "voluntary poster boy of a disgusting RW hit job" of which you speak? cui bono Apr 2015 #30

It'll come to you. ucrdem Apr 2015 #31

I don't think so. Help me understand your assertions if you would like a discussion. n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #32

And by the same token Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #33

What is an 'emoprog'? AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #48

Here ya go. This is from 2012 and yes it's meant as an insult. neverforget Apr 2015 #50

Wow AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #70

That's just lovely. City Lights Apr 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #40

+1000 marym625 Apr 2015 #43

Nailed it!...nt Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #51

I think that is a response to the belittlement. joshcryer Apr 2015 #53

Indeed. It's no coincidence that the biggest Snowden attackers are almost, 1 for 1, the biggest Marr Apr 2015 #65

Oh, no..Obama supporters?! *Gasp* R B Garr Apr 2015 #72

I didn't say there's anything wrong with being a fervent Obama supporter. Marr Apr 2015 #73

So, I was just as disgusted over exposing Valerie Plame as I am with this latest revelation Sheepshank Apr 2015 #104

You mean the Obama that talked about the spy community months before Snowden went to China? uponit7771 Apr 2015 #98

Not sure why you believe this information would discredit him in any way, I see nothing that AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #6

I'm just calling out hypocrisy as I see it Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #34

I don't see it? AuntPatsy Apr 2015 #45

Don't worry... MattSh Apr 2015 #46

Snowden COULD HAVE done all of that and not be a traitor at the same time. uponit7771 Apr 2015 #99

I honestly don't see how any of this tells anyone anything they didn't already know. leveymg Apr 2015 #7

Actually, it was the guys who wrote the article that exposed the info Oilwellian Apr 2015 #8

heh grasswire Apr 2015 #14

Anchors Aweigh. Octafish Apr 2015 #21

The more both sides know about each other (within reason), the safer we all are. leveymg Apr 2015 #44

Ever read Stanislaw Lem? Octafish Apr 2015 #76

Just the book Solaris. Saw both film versions - loved them both. leveymg Apr 2015 #84

Trust me. Octafish Apr 2015 #85

I get that same disoriented feeling every time I read anything by leveymg Apr 2015 #86

Looky at what I found on Google books: A Stanislaw Lem Reader. leveymg Apr 2015 #88

" . . . just hide embarrassing stuff the Russians already know from the American public." Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #80

Putin is Sid! leveymg Apr 2015 #82

With 20 bucks and the secret signature that was released?! uponit7771 Apr 2015 #100

The article's author asks in the Comments: "What is the damage"? It's already in the Public Domain. 99th_Monkey Apr 2015 #9

Have you read Blind Man's Bluff? We'very been spying and hacking neverforget Apr 2015 #10

That book is strictly fiction. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #81

You do realize that many books get published without approval of the military right? neverforget Apr 2015 #87

Do you have anything other than your opinion on this? I really want to know neverforget Apr 2015 #92

A good question. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #11

^THIS^ dixiegrrrrl Apr 2015 #18

"What does that mean?" It means billions of $$ for Apple, Microsoft, closeupready Apr 2015 #36

Agreed. LuvNewcastle Apr 2015 #62

Tell me again how a submarine in the Red Sea is performing missions vital to KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #13

you are a glutton for punishment grasswire Apr 2015 #15

How do you figure? Ain't nobody said shit yet to refute it Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #35

Yes. They have. Only you are too willfully blind to see their answers riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #38

Thanks for reminding me... Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #89

You've buried your questions in a ridiculous thread that most folks have tuned out riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #96

Please point to any posts in this thread or any other thread Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #106

nnnnnnnooooo, no he isn't....not with me at least. Exposing the government in the dumbest way possib uponit7771 Apr 2015 #101

First of all, you need to tell us what the military intelligence secret was that you think muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #39

Nothing big, but Annapolis got a SIGINT upgrade. joshcryer Apr 2015 #54

If you mean it got an upgrade in 2014, then that can't come from Snowden muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #57

It got the upgrade before deploying (as per article). joshcryer Apr 2015 #63

If it's already public knowledge, why is he credited for the "leak?" Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #90

You're the one who has christened this article a 'leak', and credited it to Snowden muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #91

Two good questions that will be two hundred percent ignored uponit7771 Apr 2015 #102

You're kidding? G_j Apr 2015 #42

They can't say shit about it that means anything. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #52

You've been refuted by the fact that people post pictures of the Obama family! alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #66

Thanks for exposing the Snowden Lies & Hypocrisy for the 2 years, Blue Tires. So appreciate it. Cha Apr 2015 #93

I don't have a problem with this JonLP24 Apr 2015 #17

So, when the Navy said in 2008 the Annapolis supported national security muriel_volestrangler Apr 2015 #20

Ruh roh! So what does this mean? Does the Navy now need to flee the country? Rex Apr 2015 #28

I'm tempted to rec this thread for the replies alone. cui bono Apr 2015 #23

I'll answer your first question. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #29

sunlight is the best disinfectant.... mike_c Apr 2015 #37

Really? "Phase Zero"?????? bvar22 Apr 2015 #41

Like John Oliver pointed out, the American people don't care. joshcryer Apr 2015 #47

You should start a "Big Brother is watching us!" fan club AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #49

The important issue is not what was leaked, but whether it was already known or not and how much it merrily Apr 2015 #55

Coincidentally, 2014 was also the year that Sony, Target, iCloud, Spotify, e-bay, Nieman Marcus, ucrdem Apr 2015 #56

tin foil hat time. neverforget Apr 2015 #58

Tin foil hat or smear tactic? merrily Apr 2015 #59

"2014: the year of retailers getting hacked over and over again" ucrdem Apr 2015 #61

It was after all, Snowden who bungled the openssh implementation that provided a gaping exploit Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #64

Who benefits from a vast collection of data on American citizens? riderinthestorm Apr 2015 #69

Couldn't possibly be that corporations didn't protect their neverforget Apr 2015 #77

Not these corps, no. Do you know where Target for example gets its name? ucrdem Apr 2015 #78

Well, they did take it very casually. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #105

It was also the year that Robin Williams died! Marr Apr 2015 #68

Aw, you're full of it, Blue_Tires. Snowden only turned over info to 'responsible journalists'. randome Apr 2015 #67

In Russia. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #79

Unfortunately, he Can be full of Shite and he is.. but, obvisously doesn't matter to his fan club. Cha Apr 2015 #94

Oh, so now you're going to believe anything Greenwald says? randome Apr 2015 #95

Well, we have to get along with everyone here, they are our neighbors. Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #97

lol uponit7771 Apr 2015 #103

Yes because the United States has an inalienable right to Savannahmann Apr 2015 #75

Who gives a flying fuck? Good. TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #83