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In reply to the discussion: An exhibition in Iran will mock the Holocaust [View all]JonLP24
(29,322 posts)42. What do you make of this?
I don't justify what these individuals did but they were obviously duped by Wahabbi cult leaders to perform attacks which was a process started years ago that it is only because of the cartoon which is very much a part of Wahabbi doctrine which absolutely should be condemn but when the entire sect is held responsible & marginalized it helps with their propaganda further in addition to the bombings & killings of Muslims. Ironically a lot of attacks in France targeted Mosques which shows how ignorant they are because Wahabbis aren't fans of Mosques either. They blow them up too.
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Raised in ophanages
In a 400-page court record from 2007, Kouachi was described as wanting to travel to Iraq "to go and combat the Americans."
Kouachi stated in a deposition, "I was ready to go and die in battle," and "I got this idea when I saw the injustices shown by television on what was going on over there. I am speaking about the torture that the Americans have inflicted on the Iraqis."
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Kouachi stated that "the wise leaders in Islam told him and his friends that if they die as martyrs in jihad they would go to heaven" and "that martyrs would be greeted by more than 60 virgins in a big palace in heaven," said documents in a section entitled "Motivations of Influence."
(wise leaders -- cult leaders)
http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/08/europe/paris-charlie-hebdo-shooting-suspects/
What I'm saying is the individuals related to the Charlie Hedbo shooting were influenced, tasked, training, & planning attacks way before this one. To be clear Wahabbi doctrine should 100% be condemned aside from the obvious reasons they are a far right ultraconservative orthodox sect as well as any far right movement.
On edit -- Realize they overload on the propaganda to influence followers. The reason the "wise leaders" choose this as a target is because they knew this is what the reaction would be which helps influence more followers who maybe marginalized or discriminated because of their religious beliefs.
Also why is Mohammed the target of this satire exactly? The doctrine responsible for these attacks is also the doctrine responsible for the desecration of his immediate familiy's graves.
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it is very sensible and very much at odds with the sentiments you expressed in this thread.
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#88
Thanks. But that didn't make you reassess what you thought I said in this thread?
jobycom
Apr 2015
#90
I did no such thing. You've now given his argument more air time than I ever would have.
jobycom
Apr 2015
#108
"That's supremacy. And that--not the silly cartoons--is what was behind the Hebdo massacre."
oberliner
Apr 2015
#13
"prevailing story?" You didn't answer the question. Is there any factual basis
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#95
Apology for terrorism - You are saying that the massacre was justified in your last sentence
Pooka Fey
Apr 2015
#57
So are you saying that the Hebdo massacre would have been justified if my last sentence is true?
jobycom
Apr 2015
#92
Dude I would have alerted on YOUR post if I thought it would have made a difference
Pooka Fey
Apr 2015
#94
In the UK and USA it would be legal to deny the Holocaust. That doesn't mean that it is, or should
LeftishBrit
Apr 2015
#72
No doubt, you'll supply us with objective evidence which supports that allegation.
LanternWaste
Apr 2015
#80
Do you understand the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution?
Warren DeMontague
Apr 2015
#115
If something is objective fact, then there is no debate to be had in terms of respecting people
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#89
I predict ABSOLUTELY ZERO people will be killed or have death decrees made against them. nt
Nuclear Unicorn
Apr 2015
#33
Referring to rejecting the David Irving crowd as driven by "politics" and referring
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#91
The Holocaust is not a 'sacred' issue--it is an indisputable fact established by
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#104
I'll go out on a limb and predict that these cartoons will not lead to bloody riots,
Nye Bevan
Apr 2015
#12
You seem to erroneously believe that only Jews are offended by it. You are entirely mistaken.
cali
Apr 2015
#53
Fundamentalist preachers are convincing young adults that it is their religious duty
JonLP24
Apr 2015
#51
seeing how nutty yahoo has been talking....no olive branches from isreal that is for sure
dembotoz
Apr 2015
#34
So because Bibi is a douche that permits folks to deny the Holocaust?
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#56
Too bad we can't trade our US conservatives for Iranian liberals, women, and LGBT.
Zorra
Apr 2015
#82
someone should enter a cartoon of Mohammed saying "denying the Holocaust is evil" nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#98