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cui bono

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344. Again... how does that explain how a vote is a bet?

Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:22 AM

Apr 2015

Honestly, if you are actually explaining it I'm not getting it. Try again in simpler terms please. Maybe I'll understand next time.

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Bernie Sanders: I Could Beat Hillary Clinton [View all] Cali_Democrat Apr 2015 OP

Give them one debate and Hillary would be burnt toast. Scuba Apr 2015 #1

" " TheNutcracker Apr 2015 #2

I'll third that swilton Apr 2015 #9

Count me in. Hell, I could beat Hillary. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #118

Exactly. If Bernie ran a lot of people would sign back up as a Democrat in states where it is cui bono Apr 2015 #262

Yep. I think the party establishment will do all it can to prevent the two actually Marr Apr 2015 #22

They are scared shitless of Bernie. JEB Apr 2015 #27

They've spent decades walking us to the right, offering less and less, Marr Apr 2015 #33

Or sticking your damn HAND in the pot, for that matter! beerandjesus Apr 2015 #36

Based on the responses to this thread, I'd say you're right. smokey nj Apr 2015 #66

Who is scared shitless? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #297

If you go back to the post to whom I was replying JEB Apr 2015 #316

i read it and I am calling bullshit on it... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #324

Let them debate. Are you JEB Apr 2015 #339

There would be nothing left of HRC but a pair of smoking shoes. hifiguy Apr 2015 #29

Ohhh...you don't want to look in there. [n/t] Maedhros Apr 2015 #52

What's in the box? /nt AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #62

He better bring his fanciest college words then.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #298

All he needs to do is tell the truth. Octafish Apr 2015 #330

Are you calling her a liar? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #331

Is misrepresenting what I said the only way you can win an argument? Octafish Apr 2015 #336

How so? You think Bernie is the only one that can "tell the truth"....you think she won't VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #337

Until the topic shifted to Foreign Affairs ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #40

Bernie would have the answers. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #44

Okay ... We'll see ... Maybe. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #51

Bernie doesn't want another war. That makes him the man for the job right there. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #59

And that goes to the ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #60

I think Bernie's foreign policy would be to lead by example. Respect for the USA would be restored Enthusiast Apr 2015 #61

I think you are confusing your lack of respect for the USA and that of the world ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #69

Riiiight.. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #71

Google can be your friend. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #73

And Google can sometimes not be your friend, as well Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #96

True. Depending on what you find. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #101

The rest of the world does NOT view the USA favorably. Best case they think of us .... Scuba Apr 2015 #90

Source? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #93

World governments are a tiny percentage of the population of the world. merrily Apr 2015 #105

The vast majority of the world's population give less than a damn about ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #117

Really? Then why have we been getting attacked since Bubba's administration? merrily Apr 2015 #119

Statistics? Link? cui bono Apr 2015 #270

Exactly. cui bono Apr 2015 #268

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that.. that PBO is only admired more than bush bc the bar isn't very Cha Apr 2015 #204

Really? Accusing Enthusiast of lacking respect for the US? merrily Apr 2015 #106

I was using his/her words ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #120

No, he never said he lacked respect for the US. merrily Apr 2015 #122

yeah, okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #131

Yes, claiming Enthusiast lacks respect for the US is a personal insult. merrily Apr 2015 #133

Yeah. Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #145

I have zero respect for a Neo-Con foreign policy that looks at war as a first resort. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #207

?Okay? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #214

Obama just lead by example. Iran 4 02 15 sheshe2 Apr 2015 #202

I agree. Now, if we could only keep the knuckledraggers from doing something to undermine it. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #206

and billions wasted on military misadventures.. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #188

I am with you. Military misadventures is a good way to put it. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #208

Meh, I have a feeling Sanders can answer the "and then what, too." merrily Apr 2015 #103

We shall see ... Masybe. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #114

I hope we do get a chance to see. I know of no reason to think him stupid or uninformed. merrily Apr 2015 #116

I hope we do, too ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #121

Distinction without a difference possibly, but no reason to assume he does not have that answer. merrily Apr 2015 #123

PLUS ONE, a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #209

foreign affairs? dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #180

I agree! n/t sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #42

Hell yes.... daleanime Apr 2015 #48

+1000 MissDeeds Apr 2015 #53

That's why there will be no primary. L0oniX Apr 2015 #79

Well, no serious primary challenge from the left, anyway---unless merrily Apr 2015 #107

That's not for certain johnnysad Apr 2015 #219

Bernie's classy enough to attack the issues, and his opponents positions, not her personally. Scuba Apr 2015 #220

attacking the issues could seem like it is attacking her personally johnnysad Apr 2015 #222

It could, but as I said, Bernie's too classy to let that happen. No doubt ... Scuba Apr 2015 #225

That is the same exact thoughts I had n/t Victor_c3 Apr 2015 #307

Yes she would! davidsilver Apr 2015 #342

That's probably the most meaningless poll ever, since most people never heard of him. arcane1 Apr 2015 #3

She had an 18 point lead in 2007. Dr Hobbitstein Apr 2015 #171

How many Presidential candidates have you seen who said they couldn't win? brooklynite Apr 2015 #4

Not doing anything to organize and raise money? JDPriestly Apr 2015 #46

As you well know, he is not a self described Socialist, but a Democratic Socialist and he has been merrily Apr 2015 #108

No he has not... brooklynite Apr 2015 #128

Yes he has. He's said so on TV. No clue how you purport to know his motives for traveling better merrily Apr 2015 #130

If it makes you feel better to believe, knock yourself out brooklynite Apr 2015 #141

I believe Sanders' statement about Sanders over your statement about Sanders. merrily Apr 2015 #143

Then you have nothing to worry about...and neither do I brooklynite Apr 2015 #146

You won't be happy with the outcome if you do hear people complain? merrily Apr 2015 #147

I give very little credence on fundraisers.. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #189

Amazing enough, I'm ALWAYS 100% for the Democratic nominee... brooklynite Apr 2015 #191

Oh, believe me, once people meet Bernie Sanders, they'll dump Clinton like a hot potato Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #193

This panoply of proposals sounds indistinguishable from Dennis Kucinich... brooklynite Apr 2015 #194

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I don't want to disappoint you, but not every DUer opposes Third Way. merrily Apr 2015 #271

I don't worry about the S-Word these days. Or the L-Word for that matter. stone space Apr 2015 #306

Regardless of how YOU feel, the average voters looks askance at Socialists... brooklynite Apr 2015 #308

This is 2015. stone space Apr 2015 #309

With the exception of a local election in liberal Seattle..... brooklynite Apr 2015 #311

Yes, Bernie can, and he'll get my enthusatic help It is Tuesday Apr 2015 #5

I must say he has the Right Attitude. Fighting Spirit. Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #6

most of them fight for themselves and big donors. Bernie is fighting for us. merrily Apr 2015 #109

Isn't it nice to have someone in our corner? It's about time. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #210

Did I misread this post? It says Clinton leads Sanders 47% to 8%, just makes me wonder Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #7

You think a head-to-head primary match-up between HRC and Sanders would be KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #10

Do you think that? I said I am looking forward to a good primary, I do not want to look like the Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #12

You didn't say it; you insinuated it and you know it. I called your comment out and now KingCharlemagne Apr 2015 #15

I played this game with the same poster yesterday. Marr Apr 2015 #24

LOL. True. We all see him or her. No need to reach for the high blood pressure meds. merrily Apr 2015 #124

Do you think a good primary needs to be a clown show like the GOP has been having? Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #34

you should probably answer his question first instead of Phlem Apr 2015 #45

Goodness. You and your tricky insinuations. You've got us all in a twist. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #84

As if Sanders and Bachmann are indistinguishable. That's hilarious. merrily Apr 2015 #125

Right. rhett o rick Apr 2015 #148

I think you said that. morningfog Apr 2015 #64

"Clown show". Uh-huh. /nt Marr Apr 2015 #26

Just let the two of them have a debate on Primetime TV and those numbers sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #43

Exactly, hence the desperate attempt to marginalize Bernie. JEB Apr 2015 #340

Even in the first race he won as mayor of Burlington VT, he was not given a chance karynnj Apr 2015 #50

I've been saying the same thing, Bernie wins Iowa and New Hampshire A Simple Game Apr 2015 #67

Consider a variation on 1968 karynnj Apr 2015 #74

The Party was not discouraging primaries then. It is now. merrily Apr 2015 #129

Not totally true karynnj Apr 2015 #157

Not at all clear what you are saying. AFAIK, the Party did not actively discourage primaries until merrily Apr 2015 #159

I agree on 2016 versus either 2008 or 2004 karynnj Apr 2015 #172

I understood that, but your reply to me had nothing to do with my Reply 129 to you. merrily Apr 2015 #185

He won so much that the Rs and Ds joined against him to back one candidate between them--and he won merrily Apr 2015 #126

I don't care for Hillary either but wouldn't go so far as to call her a clown. A Simple Game Apr 2015 #63

Thread winner. merrily Apr 2015 #127

Don't you dare compare Sanders to someone like Bachman or Santorum. merrily Apr 2015 #110

The polls continue to be meaningless at this point. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #190

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Fusion interview link herding cats Apr 2015 #8

He's devoted his life to the right reasons. The only money he made in Congress was from book sales merrily Apr 2015 #112

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Well then do it!!! Rex Apr 2015 #11

He needs money first. He's been trying to raise it. Anyone who wants him to run should donate. merrily Apr 2015 #115

I will donate when I can. Rex Apr 2015 #174

https://berniesanders.com/ dolphinsandtuna Apr 2015 #181

I know. My post replied to you, but was meant for anyone interested who was reading merrily Apr 2015 #184

BREAKING: Potential Candidate Refuses To Torpedo Candidacy Before It Begins. n/t Orsino Apr 2015 #13

exactly. what on earth did the idiot expect him to say? Tuesday Afternoon Apr 2015 #21

He might...but he cannot beat the Republicans... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #14

ANY democrat can beat anyone of the nutters and morans currently in the gop clown car... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #20

You have any proof of that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #23

Proof? I was thinking about asking you the same for your claim in post #14. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2015 #72

what of that needs explaining to YOU? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #87

You cite polls more than a year and a half out from the election and ask me if I know voters? A Simple Game Apr 2015 #92

and you keep telling yourself that polls don't matter VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #113

And if you knew polling history you would know polls this far out are meaningless. n/t A Simple Game Apr 2015 #165

Oh really? Who told you that? A scientist? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #182

Nope. Reality. History. You know...those meaningless things... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #313

Reality and history tells quite the opposite story... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #325

Yes. Yes I do. Now get in my time machine and I'll show you... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #314

Bernie couldn't beat anyone except David Duke Reter Apr 2015 #310

Sure, he can! stone space Apr 2015 #82

How? He is not even popular among Democrats VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #88

He hasn't even announced, yet. stone space Apr 2015 #99

and you think if he just "announces" that will make him more popular than even Joe Biden? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #111

I'll see you at the 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucus. stone space Apr 2015 #136

Yeah you will...How confident are YOU? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #183

So you look at this as a gambling opportunuty? stone space Apr 2015 #211

No I look at it as an opportunity to prove you don't stand that much behind your words! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #216

Ah...just trolling Democrats. Got you. stone space Apr 2015 #218

I AM a Democrat....who supports the winner of our Primary whomever that may be... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #221

Whetever you are, feel free to keep your gambling addiction to yourself. stone space Apr 2015 #224

No gambling addiction here....I am just apparently more confident with my position than VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #228

I don't view gambling as an expression of confidence. stone space Apr 2015 #229

I view the fact that it made you quiver a sign of your less than confident position... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #231

Gambling doesn't make me quiver. stone space Apr 2015 #232

It made you quiver over THIS position.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #233

Not at all. I understand that you like gambling. That's cool. stone space Apr 2015 #234

No actually I don't.....its just that I am confident in my position... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #235

You are the gambler, quite obviously. stone space Apr 2015 #236

Yeah nobody that isn't a "degenerate gambler" ever uses that phrase... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #237

Is anybody here is insisting that I smoke pot or drink alchohol? stone space Apr 2015 #238

WTF? "Acts the way I do".....because I am willing to support my position? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #239

By "acts the way you do" I mean bashing folks for not... stone space Apr 2015 #241

"bashing folks for NOT drinking or smoking pot" VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #244

You attempted to rope me in on your gambling endevor, and... stone space Apr 2015 #245

Noooooo you accused ME of having a gambling addiction... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #249

My vote is not a bet. stone space Apr 2015 #253

Yes it is....its the most valuable thing you own in the United States.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #254

No, my vote is not a bet. It's a vote. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #257

and that vote has value....and you are placing it on candidates who have varying chances VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #259

There's no gambling allowed in the 2016 Iowa Democratic Caucus. stone space Apr 2015 #261

So nobody ever bets with anything except money in your neighborhood? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #263

I've never met anybody as fanatical about gambling as you are. stone space Apr 2015 #265

Thank you for the subthread stone space!!! cui bono Apr 2015 #272

Merry go round? Is that what you call getting schooled on statistics and probability? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #296

Okay, you are almost making me use the rofl smiley... cui bono Apr 2015 #300

Yeah that is what I would say too if I were you.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #302

What does Sanders have to do with you saying a vote is a bet? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #321

and that is what happens when you jump into the tail end of a conversation.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #323

You stated above that a vote is a bet. I'm just asking you to explain how that is. cui bono Apr 2015 #343

Oh now I am a "Fanatical degenerate Gamber"!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #276

The word "degenerate" is yours. stone space Apr 2015 #281

Oh that is right.....you called me an "gambling addict" not a degenerate... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #282

It's not like you're going out of your way to hide it here. stone space Apr 2015 #283

Hiding what? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #284

Your gambling fanaticism. (nt) stone space Apr 2015 #285

hahahahahahahaha!!!! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #286

No, the one who insists that strangers help enable their addiction... stone space Apr 2015 #287

I haven't enabled anyone..... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #288

Does your candidate know about you? stone space Apr 2015 #293

Are they supposed to? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #294

TIAA-CREF stone space Apr 2015 #305

This has been very enlightening. bravenak Apr 2015 #301

then you wouldn't be risking your vote....you would go with the choice who has the best chance VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #303

I just don't see voting the same way you do. bravenak Apr 2015 #319

everything is a gamble...LIFE is a gamble.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #326

Um. I guess that since I'm not a gambler, I just don't see it. bravenak Apr 2015 #334

omg... you've outdone yourself VR. cui bono Apr 2015 #273

Don't you look at "odds of winning" statistics too? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #275

How does that make voting betting? n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #277

its called an analogy.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #278

No it's not. Do you understand analogies? cui bono Apr 2015 #279

yes it is and I made the analogy.....I think I know what I meant... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #280

No, that's not how voting works at all, it's not the same as betting. Sheesh. cui bono Apr 2015 #291

Well scientifically yes it is.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #295

"Scientifically yes it is"... please explain that to me! n/t cui bono Apr 2015 #299

Here you go... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #304

How exactly does that show that a vote is a bet? cui bono Apr 2015 #320

EVERYTHING is a gamble....except death and taxes VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #327

Again... how does that explain how a vote is a bet? cui bono Apr 2015 #344

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That is what you think huh? That name recognition has nothing to do with her record whatsoever huh? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #251

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Of course they don't mean shit to you... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #267

Oh and I happen to be a happy Democrat (as by far most Democrats also agree with my choice) VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #274

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I'll take that bet! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #255

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I like my odds....Thank you... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #260

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BET! VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #266

He has defeated the Republicans. Repeatedly. Ageless Democrat Apr 2015 #192

and still his chances of winning the General against them is.... VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #289

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Bollocks. truebrit71 Apr 2015 #315

Who is calling for that? VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #328

And that's why we need a contested primary... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #333

HRC out of touch with mainstream apparently, wants to re-frame income inequality problem on point Apr 2015 #16

Hillary will offer old, outdated solutions to our current problems. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #41

Mmmm crusty. L0oniX Apr 2015 #81

Old, new or whatever, we need ideas that are different from Third Way. And by we, I mean both merrily Apr 2015 #144

I think you have that wrong ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #47

Unfortunately, uprisings may be coming if this is not addressed. I think your take is wrong. on point Apr 2015 #49

It's a conversation on the internet ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #57

It's not hard to connect income inequality/economic justice with jobs Fumesucker Apr 2015 #97

2 minutes? ...LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #104

Wait. merrily Apr 2015 #149

Why? Wait for what? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #156

For uprisings, in addition to lotteries. merrily Apr 2015 #163

But the New Deal and the Great Society ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #166

Either I don't understand your claim or it's wrong. merrily Apr 2015 #168

Or, perhaps, you don't understand ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #169

I do understand what they actually did and did not do, but we are not discussing merrily Apr 2015 #200

So perhaps, you'll be kind enough to ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #213

As a proud member of the very first class of Headstart....I concur VanillaRhapsody Apr 2015 #329

I had forgotten about that exchange ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #335

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Once Bernie gets more exposure in places that "haven't heard of him," RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #17

Very fair statement by Sanders. NCTraveler Apr 2015 #18

what's he supposed to say? nt geek tragedy Apr 2015 #19

Is he dishonest or delusional, or just splitting hairs about the meaning of the word "could"? Donald Ian Rankin Apr 2015 #25

Anyone who really wonders if Sanders is dishonest is delusional. merrily Apr 2015 #138

Here on DU, it's usually Christians who are accused of being "dishonest or delusional". stone space Apr 2015 #312

Well then, announce your candidacy. leftofcool Apr 2015 #28

He's an old school gentleman. Ladies first. merrily Apr 2015 #139

Ew. I can't stand old school gentlemen. F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #155

Yes, I was using the term to make a point. merrily Apr 2015 #158

If the voters in this country SamKnause Apr 2015 #30

Then become a Democrat and run. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #31

Please see Reply 139. merrily Apr 2015 #140

What woman who is a member of another party is talking about running? Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #178

I didn't say anything about one party or the other nor am I in the mood for a posting game. merrily Apr 2015 #187

Perhaps you should not have started with the whole "Bernie is a gentleman" game. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #195

Yeah, right. A tongue in cheek post is a "posting game." Get real. merrily Apr 2015 #196

Don't want to talk? Have a nice day. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #197

Then you should not have. merrily Apr 2015 #198

I ended the first sentence in a question. Agnosticsherbet Apr 2015 #199

"Which meant that I guess you don't want to talk about Bernie" merrily Apr 2015 #203

Confidence is good... DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #32

April Fool's jokes are pretty lame. nt Dreamer Tatum Apr 2015 #35

Absolutely no comment Demeter Apr 2015 #37

Sanders is the best man in Congress...but nlkennedy Apr 2015 #38

K&R. Hope he runs as a Democrat. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #39

The question is could he beat the Republican candidate BainsBane Apr 2015 #54

He's got my vote if he runs. [nt] Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #55

Should Be, But Ain't HassleCat Apr 2015 #56

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Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #58

...aaaaaaaaaand shit just got real. WilliamPitt Apr 2015 #65

Sanders/Warren, or Warren/Sanders, 2016! AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #75

Real funny Renew Deal Apr 2015 #132

Is Bernie practicing lying to get ready for the campaign?... lame54 Apr 2015 #68

Run Bernie Run! /nt think Apr 2015 #70

April Fool Lil Missy Apr 2015 #76

! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #89

Eh. Less talk, more walk, Senator. MADem Apr 2015 #77

Oh come on now ...we all know that kissing Wall Street's ass is what wins elections. L0oniX Apr 2015 #78

Bernie's not my first choice.... PassingFair Apr 2015 #80

He might, but it would be another Dukakis in the General.. But damn interesting. Hoyt Apr 2015 #83

No it wouldn't. Nice try, though. smokey nj Apr 2015 #86

Well then, give us a scenario where Sanders wins a national election. brooklynite Apr 2015 #94

Meh. Hillary might not be able to win a general Presidential election. merrily Apr 2015 #150

Bernie gets more popular votes. Bernie gets more electoral votes. Zorra Apr 2015 #167

So, just like Dennis Kucinich? brooklynite Apr 2015 #170

No, Kucinich didn't get nominated. nt Zorra Apr 2015 #175

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I agree Renew Deal Apr 2015 #134

Sanders doesn't look like a president AlbertCat Apr 2015 #154

Yes Renew Deal Apr 2015 #160

Really? I can't think of a single one besides the guy on 24. /nt Marr Apr 2015 #164

Hillary does? Her own political genius husband didn't think so--and that was almost 8 years ago. merrily Apr 2015 #201

Yup! These guys inspired a lot of passion too, just not enough for the highest office in the land. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2015 #85

You forgot Kerry. merrily Apr 2015 #152

Keep speaking, Bernie. Truth about the oligarchy trumps diversionary propaganda. woo me with science Apr 2015 #91

Yes, but not with many big donors, if any. People who want Bernie need to be donating as merrily Apr 2015 #153

Bernie will be strong in Iowa caucuses Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #95

The only way I would consider Bernie is if he runs as a Democrat. B Calm Apr 2015 #98

I would definitely vote for Bernie in the NH primary. Vinca Apr 2015 #100

Why am I reminded bmbmd Apr 2015 #102

He was incredibly brave though DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #161

Talk is cheap. Prove it!!! Run, Bernie, run!!! Zorra Apr 2015 #135

Go for it Bernie!!!!! get the red out Apr 2015 #137

Yes we can beat Hillary Bernie, do it! Autumn Apr 2015 #142

If Sanders runs, I will enthusiastically support him. ladjf Apr 2015 #151

The way the media is attacking her fiddodiddo Apr 2015 #162

Welcome back to DU/NT DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #186

If he got more exposure on more TV programs fadedrose Apr 2015 #173

Run Bernie, run. CentralMass Apr 2015 #176

What's he supposed to say? Beacool Apr 2015 #177

Well That Would Ensure A Republican Victory In 2016... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #179

He's not a socialist. He's a Democratic Socialist. They are not the same. Somehow, some people merrily Apr 2015 #205

I believe HRC running as our nom would guarrentee a Repub victory..... peacebird Apr 2015 #230

We Than Perhaps You Should Take A Look At Recent Polling Data... Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #317

Recent polling data says HRC is inevitable. Just like it did before Obama won the nom in 08 peacebird Apr 2015 #322

It Also Shows Her Beating Every Republican Running For President Corey_Baker08 Apr 2015 #346

Two years out. Yes, she has name recognition. That is all. Just like he reintroduction book tour peacebird Apr 2015 #347

"I can beat Hillary" is the only reply Bernie could give to that question. merrily Apr 2015 #212

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #215

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #217

RUN Bernie RUN! DiverDave Apr 2015 #223

Then FFS run, Bernie! (nt) Jester Messiah Apr 2015 #226

I read in the tabloids Hillary was not going to be president, that means she will be president. Thinkingabout Apr 2015 #227

I don't know how Hillary could counter Bernie's Joe Turner Apr 2015 #269

I would say it is plausable AgingAmerican Apr 2015 #292

He must mean "At tennis". nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #318

No. He means the Democratic nomination. Octafish Apr 2015 #332

He can't mean that, because he's not delusional. Nt stevenleser Apr 2015 #338

How would you know? Octafish Apr 2015 #345

Why the rush to marginalize Bernie? JEB Apr 2015 #341

kick woo me with science Apr 2015 #348