Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

riverbendviewgal

(4,253 posts)
35. It costs $2,350 US to renounce US citizenship
Sat Apr 4, 2015, 02:29 PM
Apr 2015

It cost Ted Cruz $100 Cdn to renounce Canadian citizenship.

The USA owns its citizens for life. Even those born while foreign parents in the USA were working or going to school. They go back to their parents countries to live when babies or children yet the US government says they must file US taxes for life. Plus they must report all the money they have in their "foreign" banks that are down the street from t hem. It now costs at least $1k to file US taxes each year if you live abroad, even if you owe nothing. Banks around the USA are closing bank accounts of anyone who has American indica unless they can prove they renounced with a Citizen Loss of Nationality paper from the US government.

The USA is Citizen based taxation while the rest of the world, except for Eritrea, is Resident based taxation..

It is so hyprocritical that Corporations are allowed to use resident based taxation but people who are mostly teachers, librarians working average jobs are made to file every year at great expense. US citizens who live abroad have become a pariah in the banking institutions abroad.


Most US citizens never heard of citizen based taxation or resident based taxation. They should.. but then most Americans are not interested in going abroad.

http://mic.com/articles/28780/why-64-of-americans-have-never-left-the-u-s

However, I will accuse Americans of a lack of ambition. According to a 2012 LivingSocial study, three of Americans’ top ten dream destinations are right here in the United States, including Las Vegas and Disney World. Really? Of all the amazing places to go in the world, with seven continents and over 200 countries, we pick Disney World as a dream destination? Let’s dream a little bigger than that.

Mark Twain once said that, “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness.” The planet has never been more interconnected and it scares me a little that 64% of the citizens of the world’s most influential country have never seen any other part of the world. On a less lofty note, international travel is so much fun and it’s tragic that so few in such a rich country have experienced it.
This is the KEY and should be the number one conversation on DU BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #1
Clinton will! obxhead Apr 2015 #7
You nailed it, BrotherIvan! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #25
Maybe we should start talking about principles BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #32
TPTB only want division. This much is perfectly clear. And they have zero interest in principles. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #49
Tell It! We also need to add Climate Change & the Environment to the list appalachiablue Apr 2015 #37
Yes, we need a VISION BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #43
For several years I've wondered what the Dem. Vision is? Hello, listen up, we need a major appalachiablue Apr 2015 #45
Agreed BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #46
Superbly marketed campaign is right. Now is the time for left thinkers to use their creativity, appalachiablue Apr 2015 #47
Spot on!!! BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #48
Powerful WillTwain Apr 2015 #2
Let's not forget about the military budget, either: F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #3
Small example from 2007. These kinds of details were hashed out in Olympia, too: freshwest Apr 2015 #4
Time to shock the world: "Manhattan" type project on renewable clean energy. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #16
+1 Big issue, the Military/War Budget. How much that $ could help this country is immense- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #41
K&R! Sherman A1 Apr 2015 #5
Thank you, Bernie Sanders. The voice of reason. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #6
+1 Yes indeed, nurtured here in the USA, like WS banker Lloyd 'I'm Doing God's Work!' Blankfein of appalachiablue Apr 2015 #42
The irony is my friend of 40-plus years renounced his US citizenship last fall... KansDem Apr 2015 #8
"renounced his American citizen" project_bluebook Apr 2015 #10
When he told me what he did... KansDem Apr 2015 #17
A US citizen is required to file a return wherever they live, even if they pay taxes abroad DFW Apr 2015 #33
It costs $2,350 US to renounce US citizenship riverbendviewgal Apr 2015 #35
Interesting to know this. The 1K per year to file is seriously unfair esp. as corps. are escaping appalachiablue Apr 2015 #38
the tax compliance industry Loves Citizen based taxation so much... riverbendviewgal Apr 2015 #40
This is why I can never understand project_bluebook Apr 2015 #9
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #11
From whom much has been given much is owed. ananda Apr 2015 #12
K&R liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #13
Tax 200% on every dollar stored in an offshore bank account. Initech Apr 2015 #14
Pay your taxes, Takers! Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #15
Bu...bu...but ... Black Women, Food Stamps ... CRAB!!! (n/t) brett_jv Apr 2015 #18
Yep...You got it ! BlueJazz Apr 2015 #19
Single parent households! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #24
Bernie knows it. All the good this $ could have done for the deteriorating US. Scofflaws- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #20
k&r n/t Wilms Apr 2015 #21
K&R - raven mad Apr 2015 #22
These corporations are un-American! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #23
Brilliant Topic of conversation.. mahalo Bernie and Play Cha Apr 2015 #26
Why not just padlock their doors and put them out of business? scscholar Apr 2015 #27
Transportation secretary pushes $478 billion highway plan Cha Apr 2015 #28
were those profits already taxed by the foreign county? n/t yodermon Apr 2015 #29
The republicon Michigan Legislature would rather we vote to raise our sales and gas taxes instead corkhead Apr 2015 #30
+1. If corps. are people then they pay taxes. What hypocrisy & major scam- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #44
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2015 #31
And most tax dollars would STILL go to THE WAR DEPARTMENT. Thanks, Bernie, for the info. nt valerief Apr 2015 #34
The real criminals in this country - the corporations! Initech Apr 2015 #36
Taxes are for the little people, not important Corporate Persons. 99Forever Apr 2015 #39
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Bernie Sanders: Here is W...»Reply #35