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In reply to the discussion: Israelis are understandably not thrilled with the Iran deal [View all]geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)10. No, the Iranian government is not trustworthy. Which is why the deal calls for intrusive
inspections and monitoring of not only current dismantling and repurposing of facilities and fissile material, but also of compliance going forward.
You are pushing the false narrative that negotiating with Iran makes Obama and the other P5+1 a bunch of silly, naïve hippies.
It's the Neocon jingoist warmongers who insist that any negotiation or diplomacy with Iran is a sign of weakness--those are the fuckers who are justly accused of being warmongers, because they will not accept anything less than regime change in Iran.
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You do realize there was another not clipped statement...NOT a year ago, just 2 weeks ago..here ya go:
Fred Sanders
Apr 2015
#1
What is your plan to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons, has Israel ever thought about
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#2
Let's see how successful you are in accomplishing this. Another reason to see the details
Thinkingabout
Apr 2015
#275
LOL.. Yeah, they're real Grumpy and calling out the President for being ..wait for it.. the horrors
Cha
Apr 2015
#226
When the Israelis come up with an alernative other than WAR WAR WAR then I will have
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#7
No, the Iranian government is not trustworthy. Which is why the deal calls for intrusive
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#10
Funny - we were assured for years that Iran had a Kumbaya Program, not a nuclear one.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#17
Bibi wants the US to go to war with Iran, just like he pushed for us to invade
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#27
No problem.. I said it was "a time waster.." to the OP.. but actually it was worth it to me
Cha
Apr 2015
#231
The hasbara crowd rivals only the Kremlin trolls in their denial of the obvious nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#51
Hey, Aloha bravenak.. I did the OP's Google search for him. Thought I would share it..
Cha
Apr 2015
#225
'If you take out Saddam, Saddam’s regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#49
And a lot of Israeli military and government people were saying the exact opposite
Mosby
Apr 2015
#256
Manipulated by Bibi, anyhow. Not the sharpest tool in the shed in the first placd.
bravenak
Apr 2015
#64
You are partially right as it was Sharon that pushed the Iraqi invasion/debacle. See link below.
Purveyor
Apr 2015
#155
You are absolutely right on that one. The U.S. invaded Iraq twice without anyones encouragement,
still_one
Apr 2015
#178
It is NOT BS At All. It's true. what a time waster to google for members of DU.. who get it So
Cha
Apr 2015
#224
You do realize in 1953 we overthrew the Democratically elected government in Iran and
still_one
Apr 2015
#176
well, no, but I was in the thread where they flamed out by bashing Obama with links
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#132
who here is ascribing the very best of intentions to Iran's government? nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#78
No one here has said that the Iranian government is good - as to Netanyahu I take him at his word
karynnj
Apr 2015
#116
But Israel maintains an occupation and control of the borders and waterways of Palestine.
bravenak
Apr 2015
#274
Building settlements in the legal occupied territories was illegal per the same UN
karynnj
Apr 2015
#289
How many nukes does Iran have? How many does Israel have? Which one is being inspected?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2015
#115
I don't think Iran considers any nation a threat. As for the US being a "threat" to Iran...
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#149
I can give you a list they regularly threaten to annihilate, but you already know it by heart. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#158
"they held Americans hostage for over a year and we did nothing. Some threat"
AgingAmerican
Apr 2015
#263
Then why are people calling this a way for Iran to meet Israel's "threat?" nt
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#11
There are a lot of people walking around claiming that this deal negates Israel's nuclear threat.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#21
That's not what he did at all. However you are welcome to whatever delusion you choose.
Rex
Apr 2015
#259
I'm sorry that you can't relate to other posters without engaging in persoanl attacks
Mosby
Apr 2015
#264
You think it's great just like Bibi never encouraged the US to invade Iraq. nt
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#60
Mossad has also repudiated Netanyahu’s political manipulation of the Iran threat.
sinkingfeeling
Apr 2015
#13
I wonder if the deal will limit the "Death to America" chants to just a couple a week.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#26
You might want to go back and read what some of the Bush neocons 'chanted' and then put into ACTION
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#50
My post is FACT. Are you denying the now infamous threats from neocons like Michael Ledeen?
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#82
No, your schtick is that people who favor negotiations over war must be naive
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#76
The split is not between people who trust the ayatollahs and those who don't.
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#87
Amazing how they can say (1) this is a bad deal and (2) no of course I don't
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#96
Well, I'm not terribly pro-Israel these days, but I do favor the right of everyone
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#103
I don't trust anyone, actually, but I trust least THOSE WHO TELEVISE DEATH TO AMERICA AND ISRAEL.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#129
Look, I get it. To make the deal the life-altering thing you claim it is...
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#159
You offer nothing else. We now have intrusive inspections to make sure they don't get nukes. What
neverforget
Apr 2015
#219
McCain did that chant on tv. He also said selling Iran cigarettes is ok because it kills them.
arcane1
Apr 2015
#134
Please link to McCain leading a throng with specifically that chant. I will wait. Forever. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#146
Well, the Iranian leader did, you see. And McCain is a grumpy old bastard with no power.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#150
Well then we ought to be even-stevens by now. Yet they still howl for your death and mine on TV. nt
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#156
And hold candlelight vigils in the streets of Tehran after the US was attacked
truebluegreen
Apr 2015
#161
Part of your demonization of me requires that you assume I disregard the Iranian people.
Dreamer Tatum
Apr 2015
#165
I thought that was a national holiday in Iran… not a daily occurrence
world wide wally
Apr 2015
#168
Because the Arab coalition would have crumbled once the Israelis were Involved...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#108
I acknowledge that it might not be just that Israelis wanted to start a war against Iran - 47 GOP
leveymg
Apr 2015
#37
Maybe those are reactions to the constant threats from ISRAEL to use TACTICAL NUKES
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#40
You don't remember that throughout the Bush years? But we don't even have to go back
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#117
The Republicants threatened to use nukes on Iran not the Israelis...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#123
Wrong, the Israelis threatened to use Tactical Nukes during the Bush years. Of course Republicans
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#140
I'm going to need a citation that the Israelis threatened to use nuclear weapons ...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#169
Back pedaling now? You did not believe that Israel threatened AND worse, PLANNED to use tactical
sabrina 1
Apr 2015
#195
Yes but they have never publicly threatened to use nuclear weapons, especially on Iran...
DemocratSinceBirth
Apr 2015
#188
Israel his issued almost daily threats implying use of nukes against Iran for more than decade.
leveymg
Apr 2015
#193
Israel's nuclear "ambiguity" policy is to evade NPT sanctions. It has been very clear about threats
leveymg
Apr 2015
#251
the right wing war mongerers running the Israeli government are not "Israel".
Warren Stupidity
Apr 2015
#61
Stalin was our close allie in WWII. Under Stalin about 20 were put to death.
Agnosticsherbet
Apr 2015
#67
"It is a pity that neither nation has humanitarian leaders." THAT is the core of the problem imo.
Rex
Apr 2015
#105
Anyone who says Iran is not worthy of serious watching, isn't paying attention.
herding cats
Apr 2015
#75
So it must be the arms Reagan gave to Iran?. Looks like Israel fight is with the United States.
B Calm
Apr 2015
#126
Does that mean that America attacked Palestine, since we provide many of the bombs and vetos?
bravenak
Apr 2015
#127
Then I suppose the only way for the US to have much influence in the area is to break up with Israel
bravenak
Apr 2015
#262
They are fear mongering. They have bombs, Iran does not. Bibi has said inflammatory things
Pisces
Apr 2015
#109
Don't worry, if we roll over and "except the inevitable", they will be obliterated soon enough!
PassingFair
Apr 2015
#114
If they are truly that concerned, what the hell is keeping them from attacking Iran? ...
LannyDeVaney
Apr 2015
#141
If war is the thing that Israelis fear, then I fail to see why they would not celebrate.
lumberjack_jeff
Apr 2015
#143
Boo-fucking-hoo! Dismantle your 'apartheid state' and then perhaps a discussion can be had. eom
Purveyor
Apr 2015
#151
Netanyahu has done more damage to Israel and its security, than its enemies.
still_one
Apr 2015
#179
Hell, Israel needs someone like Rabin, but the radicals in his country assassinated him, just like
still_one
Apr 2015
#182
Netanyahu will go down as the man who did what Nasser, Saddam, the ayatollahs,
geek tragedy
Apr 2015
#184
Sorry, this reminds me of people who complained about Obama's idea for two free years
Starry Messenger
Apr 2015
#209
It's funny; when Ahmadinejad was president, you barely heard people talk about Khameini. We
Chathamization
Apr 2015
#240
So I thought we all wanted peace in the Middle East? Or just another 'thanks Obama' moment?
Rex
Apr 2015
#230
Oberliner: Yes, Khomeini is a menace to his own people and others. I hope is this will usher in an
freshwest
Apr 2015
#232
No I think the deal is great and I am very pleased that an agreement was reached
oberliner
Apr 2015
#249
if we used that logic that would lead the U.S. to do something like say invade Iraq.......
still_one
Apr 2015
#280