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In reply to the discussion: Democrats Have Moved to the Right, Not the Left [View all]MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)52. We can start with the 2011 State of the Union Address
Here's the quote: "To put us on solid ground, we should also find a bipartisan solution to strengthen Social Security for future generations. We must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with disabilities; without slashing benefits for future generations; and without subjecting Americans' guaranteed retirement income to the whims of the stock market."
So we need to cut it, but not slash it, for future generations. Obama kept using this cute phraseology after the SOTU, until he got busted by the press:
Briefing room word games: What's a 'slash' versus a 'cut' in Social Security?
Then of course, last summer, during the fully-fake "eat your peas" budget crisis, Obama called for cuts in Social Security and other entitlements:
"We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security." - Obama, July 22nd 2011
Offered is bad enough. But demanded? Rep. Conyers: Obama Demanded Social Security Cuts--Not GOP
Obama demanded Social Security cuts. That's awful.
And when we take into account the other maneuverings - Obama's Simpson-Bowles commission, repeated untruths about the original purpose of Social Security, bizarre assumption used by Obama's Social Security Trustees that force pessimistic projections, etc... It's bad, bad stuff.
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Are you claiming that Obama and other Dems haven't called for Social Security to be slashed?
MannyGoldstein
May 2012
#45
Please post the video of Obama calling for Slashing Social Security. There must be one.
JoePhilly
May 2012
#48
must be entertaining to live in an alternate reality... where the debbil obama slashes SS...
dionysus
May 2012
#77
Are you claiming that Obama hasn't called for cuts in Social Security benefits?
MannyGoldstein
May 2012
#79
The quote you posted from the 2011 State of the Union says the exact oppoiste of what you say it
JoePhilly
May 2012
#97
It seems that our political spectrum spans from the John Birch Society to the Republican Party
myrna minx
May 2012
#2
So ProSense, are you saying that you fundamentally disagree with a major point
bullwinkle428
May 2012
#20
The Obama administration doesn't deserve credit for declining prison populations.
Comrade Grumpy
May 2012
#32
Democrats in office have moved right on foreign policy, economics, health care, and energy
YoungDemCA
May 2012
#91
As Bill Maher said: Democrats have moved to the right, and Republicans have moved to the asylum.
marmar
May 2012
#7
Yep, they have. Only I would say they have moved right on all but social issues.
20score
May 2012
#11
Correct.....They're for anything that doesn't cost money...Yes, the Dems have moved to the Right
whathehell
May 2012
#99
I dont agree. I see the Democratic Party moving right and becoming the Centrist Party
rhett o rick
May 2012
#56
If you look at if from a bourgeois liberal viewpoint it certainly seems that way..
Fumesucker
May 2012
#13
"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be
Tierra_y_Libertad
May 2012
#19
There, in a nutshell, is my rationale for being adamantly independent and anti-partisan.
TahitiNut
May 2012
#26
+1. just another rentier class "solution". the money men make money, the rest of us pay for it.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#94
some of us will be fortunate enough to live next to those who bought pollution credits
yurbud
May 2012
#102
From what I understand the Democratic party are third-way (centrism) party. (nt)
MichaelMcGuire
May 2012
#37
xchrom doesn't deserve this nasty reply, nor is simply posting this article from Mother Jones
myrna minx
May 2012
#59
This is a discussion board. Please don't engage in personal attacks against DU'ers.
Better Believe It
May 2012
#67
"and try to get other democrats to vote third party, in order to help republicans win elections"
marmar
May 2012
#106
Endless War, War on Drugs, Mandatory for profit insurance, Bankster bailouts...
Romulox
May 2012
#60
Since there's a consensus that the Left has been ineffective at influencing the Democratic Party
Telly Savalas
May 2012
#109