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cyberswede

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113. I think the point is that whenever a post about women victims appears...

Thu Jan 29, 2015, 05:23 PM

Jan 2015

there's always someone who chimes in about how it happens to guys, too.

Every time. AFAIK, nobody has ever claimed that it doesn't happen to men, but this is a thread about women victims. WHy not start your own thread about male victims?

Do you pop into threads about Michael Brown or Eric Garner and post about all the instances of police killing unarmed white people?

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Uh guys---if you are having consensual sex with a woman and she passes out---- STOP! [View all] trumad Jan 2015 OP

Better yet, WHY would you want to have sex with someone that is passed out!? Rex Jan 2015 #1

ask Bill Cosby... dhill926 Jan 2015 #7

Ugh...I would rather not, if all that is true he is Rex Jan 2015 #28

Never had that happen to me madokie Jan 2015 #2

Uh, if she's drunk enough to pass out, there was no consent in the first place. MineralMan Jan 2015 #3

+10,000,000 Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #4

But marions ghost Jan 2015 #6

I'm sick of it, and the excuses men make. MineralMan Jan 2015 #11

I am sick of BS strawmen exactly like this. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #19

Yeah? Well, whatever you say. MineralMan Jan 2015 #22

psssst... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #69

I'm afraid I stopped having that kind of party decades ago. MineralMan Jan 2015 #73

awww..I could have brought the yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #75

Maybe I'll reconsider, then... MineralMan Jan 2015 #76

Sounds like my kind of guy and my kind of parties. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #125

and why would I even want to come to your party? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #172

I don't know. They were always for people I knew. MineralMan Jan 2015 #174

Most likely,but don't take it personnel but I find most people, boring and uninteresting ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #203

wtf? uppityperson Jan 2015 #106

Somebody doesn't know what "straw man" means, apparently. nt cyberswede Jan 2015 #118

i agree with you. it sounds like a lot of hate samsingh Jan 2015 #149

What the... cyberswede Jan 2015 #150

Where do you read a lot of hate in MM's post? yardwork Jan 2015 #182

How is this is a strawman? yardwork Jan 2015 #181

One party might not give consent and the other party might not realize what they're doing. Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #36

I'm long past the time when I ever drink that much. MineralMan Jan 2015 #42

The idea that people rape because they are too drunk to know better is ridiculous. yardwork Jan 2015 #183

So obvious it hurts. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #159

What if both parties are falling down drunk? Then what? madinmaryland Jan 2015 #186

Well, if you're functional enough to fuck somebody... cyberswede Jan 2015 #190

If both parties are well over 3-4 times the "legal" limit of alcohol, then what? madinmaryland Jan 2015 #191

While I question the likelihood, cyberswede Jan 2015 #193

Wow! trumad Jan 2015 #211

Then it's the man's fault if anything goes wrong Yupster Jan 2015 #197

Had That Happen About 20 Years Ago Tace Jan 2015 #187

I would go further and say that this applies to all genders. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #5

And to people of all sizes cyberswede Jan 2015 #30

But that's not rape... SidDithers Jan 2015 #8

Nor is refusing to use a condom...when consent was clearly predicated on using a condom. nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #25

What if that is what they are both into? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #9

Rape is a crime shenmue Jan 2015 #10

If 2 adults are into it and consent is given it is not rape no matter what you say. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #15

I'm having difficulty figuring out how two adults consent to necrophilia. . . Journeyman Jan 2015 #72

Wow, thanks for your post. cwydro Jan 2015 #98

How does a corpse consent? Please, do tell... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #105

A little known clause Yupster Jan 2015 #198

How do 2 people mutually agree to Necrophilia? uppityperson Jan 2015 #107

"Lots of folks are into necrophilia" Scootaloo Jan 2015 #201

Partners may choose to pretend My Good Babushka Jan 2015 #13

People who are drunk enough to pass out are not "into" anything. MineralMan Jan 2015 #14

Bunk , say I me and my partner are into necrophilia it is what we are into, who the F are YOU to ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #16

Is your partner passing-out drunk when this occurs? MineralMan Jan 2015 #20

I see a rape accusation in someone's future ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #61

Actually, I'm betting it's just speculation to make an argument, really. MineralMan Jan 2015 #63

One can only hope. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #79

I don't like to think otherwise. MineralMan Jan 2015 #84

This message was self-deleted by its author Exhibit A Jan 2015 #21

I admit to not knowing everything - but isn't necrophilia sex with the dead? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #23

DuZY of the year! trumad Jan 2015 #32

Yup. It's also a weird fantasy roleplaying kink some people are into. MineralMan Jan 2015 #49

It does seem very odd. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #58

Craigslist is one of the more common places the freaks can find each other ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #60

Nah. I'll leave the freaks to other freaks. MineralMan Jan 2015 #65

"Kinky is using a feather"... riqster Jan 2015 #81

People do lots of things with each other. MineralMan Jan 2015 #83

uhh..Does "willing partners" and "how people find each other" dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #86

As a fantasy fetish kink, it involves one partner playing the MineralMan Jan 2015 #92

ahh..I misunderstood your context. dixiegrrrrl Jan 2015 #108

Sexual fetishes can be pretty unsettling. MineralMan Jan 2015 #116

Luckily, the world doesn't phil89 Jan 2015 #160

You have no idea what disturbs me. MineralMan Jan 2015 #175

Huh, I learn new things on DU all the time. I thought it was all "real". uppityperson Jan 2015 #115

Depends on the definition of "real," I guess. MineralMan Jan 2015 #119

Roleplaying, meh. Not for me but meh. But for real? Way illegal. uppityperson Jan 2015 #129

I should have clarified my post. When I referred to MineralMan Jan 2015 #133

Well.... uppityperson Jan 2015 #137

Well, ick! Just ick. MineralMan Jan 2015 #139

Oh yeah. That one includes stalking and controlling someone with the inability to control uppityperson Jan 2015 #141

If it's role playing Dorian Gray Jan 2015 #206

Please stop misusing clinical labels like sociopathy phil89 Jan 2015 #158

Thanks for your advice. MineralMan Jan 2015 #178

Hey baby, do you bbBbBrrRRrraaaAiiInnNnZzz here often? NuclearDem Jan 2015 #50

If your partner Dorian Gray Jan 2015 #71

So you and your partner get off having sex with a corpse? A fresh one or decaying corpse? Fla Dem Jan 2015 #78

Necrophilia - Just so we understand what we're talking about here..... Lochloosa Jan 2015 #85

The poster is actually referring to a fantasy fetish that involves MineralMan Jan 2015 #134

how does a corpse give consent? uppityperson Jan 2015 #110

Do they have a will? Glassunion Jan 2015 #168

A will? Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2015 #169

If you randomly change the definition of words to mean whatever you think they should mean kcr Jan 2015 #143

if they are actually unconscious, they can't consent CreekDog Jan 2015 #147

So your partner is dead? And they consented as a dead person to necrophelia? smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #152

Man are you ever a charmer, pretending to not understand what MM is talking about. Hekate Jan 2015 #194

Either the sickest post ever, or MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #208

If the partners agree ahead of time phil89 Jan 2015 #162

How far ahead of time? cyberswede Jan 2015 #173

Let's see...how would that work? MineralMan Jan 2015 #177

What if men didn't ask questions that made them look like utter creeps by trying to figure out how Brickbat Jan 2015 #17

Then there would be no rape apologia threads on DU. Where's the fun in that? nt msanthrope Jan 2015 #29

Then it's not rape, you have to go by the definition of rape. Rex Jan 2015 #34

Passed out---no consent---correct? trumad Jan 2015 #52

I don't see how it is possible for an unconscious person to consent to anything. Rex Jan 2015 #56

How does a passed-out person consent? cyberswede Jan 2015 #35

Seriously, you personally think it's ok to continue to have intercourse with a woman after she has Fla Dem Jan 2015 #66

If there is mutual consent, it isn't rape. Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #153

Unconscious people can't consent. /nt yardwork Jan 2015 #184

Agreed. I will add that a female did this to a male friend of mine in college joeglow3 Jan 2015 #12

Women are much more frequently victims of this, though. MineralMan Jan 2015 #18

It never fails with a thread like this that some will come in... trumad Jan 2015 #24

That's certainly true. MineralMan Jan 2015 #27

And it's the same characters. trumad Jan 2015 #31

Not so weird, really. MineralMan Jan 2015 #33

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #102

Uhh huh trumad Jan 2015 #126

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #101

Not that your experience don't count, but rather some people simply may not believe you. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #109

Again, you would never call a woman a liar in the same role joeglow3 Jan 2015 #112

It also takes a special kind of asshole to pretend simply to make a point... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #123

I think the point is that whenever a post about women victims appears... cyberswede Jan 2015 #113

The point is NO ONE should have sex with someone passed out joeglow3 Jan 2015 #120

Threads addressing certain aspects of topics are posted all the time. cyberswede Jan 2015 #136

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #140

It depends... cyberswede Jan 2015 #146

Well DUH! Texasgal Jan 2015 #189

Penthouse forum material ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #64

Now, that's just speculation, see. MineralMan Jan 2015 #68

You are fucking amazing. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #99

Thanks, but I'm not really amazing. MineralMan Jan 2015 #179

This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jan 2015 #196

And like I said above, shitty responses like this contribute to lack of reporting. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #95

Yeah ... Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #161

Except I am the one who walked in on it joeglow3 Jan 2015 #94

It doesn't matter what the genders or sexual orientations are. Passed out people can not give uppityperson Jan 2015 #117

Exactly. It is a good message to share with all. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #127

I would assume if she passed out that there was something wrong mythology Jan 2015 #26

Exactly unrepentant progress Jan 2015 #38

Explain? trumad Jan 2015 #45

Women pass out unconscious while having sex with you all the time? unrepentant progress Jan 2015 #53

wow... trumad Jan 2015 #97

you're under the half-witted impression a person chooses the moment when they wish to pass out? LanternWaste Jan 2015 #111

Uh, why would you feel you needed to post this here? n/t Dawgs Jan 2015 #37

Why not? nt cyberswede Jan 2015 #39

Why would you think I shouldn't? trumad Jan 2015 #43

See upthread. F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #67

Bingo trumad Jan 2015 #142

And if both parties are too out of it to know what's going on, Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #40

So how do both parties do it if they are passed out? trumad Jan 2015 #41

If one is passed out and the other is too drunk to realize it... Ykcutnek Jan 2015 #44

Wow! trumad Jan 2015 #48

How do you feel about drunk driving? cyberswede Jan 2015 #62

So rape is okay if the rapist is really, really drunk? F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #70

Two college football players were just recently convicted of rape after trying that tblue37 Jan 2015 #200

Take a deep breath, and realize the blatant idiocy of your statement. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #114

"no one should be punished for something they probably won't remember the next morning"? uppityperson Jan 2015 #124

Pretzel logic at it's finest. Rex Jan 2015 #219

Seriously... cyberswede Jan 2015 #47

IKR!? What the hell is up with these excuses! Rex Jan 2015 #54

Technically you are wrong, it is rape for both. Sex without consent is rape, drunks can't give uppityperson Jan 2015 #122

you do and i'll kill ya CatWoman Jan 2015 #46

Then you better hire this guy.---oh wait! trumad Jan 2015 #51

is he going to come back from the dead? CatWoman Jan 2015 #164

Uh...yeah no shit. titaniumsalute Jan 2015 #55

If you'd never do it, then the OP isn't addressing you. cyberswede Jan 2015 #59

Look upthread--numerous DUers trying to figure out F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #74

what makes you think I'm talking to you? trumad Jan 2015 #82

did you have to break something up at a party? snooper2 Jan 2015 #57

It may surprise you but most of us don't need you upaloopa Jan 2015 #77

well good for you trumad Jan 2015 #80

If that's how you see it upaloopa Jan 2015 #87

What do you want to teach him? Rex Jan 2015 #90

A personal bug of mine is all the DUers who upaloopa Jan 2015 #100

I see, thank you for the explanation. Rex Jan 2015 #104

Do you represent everyone reading DU? marions ghost Jan 2015 #130

This isn't a communal think tank. upaloopa Jan 2015 #132

Crap marions ghost Jan 2015 #135

click here to trash thread.... uppityperson Jan 2015 #138

Sure marions ghost Jan 2015 #145

I am always amused when people come into a thread to complain about wasting their time uppityperson Jan 2015 #148

Right marions ghost Jan 2015 #180

Wow! trumad Jan 2015 #144

well if it's a personal fucking bug of yours. .. trumad Jan 2015 #166

another kick... trumad Jan 2015 #96

Don't take it so literally mkay marions ghost Jan 2015 #91

Hence the "if" in the post I would imagine. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #131

Does this bug you, too? countryjake Jan 2015 #151

I would have hoped that would be obvious. Vattel Jan 2015 #88

it is a sad fact the both males and females olddots Jan 2015 #89

Let's be clear: F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #157

Also: randome Jan 2015 #93

Uh, first aid. Half-Century Man Jan 2015 #103

I once took 2 really drunk ladies home from a club once. Glassunion Jan 2015 #121

You sir are a Gentleman. trumad Jan 2015 #128

mmmm Classy2 Jan 2015 #154

tick tock... cyberswede Jan 2015 #155

Yah think? uppityperson Jan 2015 #167

Happens all the time. trumad Jan 2015 #156

Does the name Bill Cosby ring a bell? arcane1 Jan 2015 #163

I think that there is a difference with what the OP is stating and the Bill Cosby example. Glassunion Jan 2015 #165

Then you must not be from the planet Earth. Rex Jan 2015 #220

Is it just me? Puglover Jan 2015 #170

Well I agree but different strokes for different folks ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #171

Anything nonconsensual *IS* rape...no "most likely" about it. nt cyberswede Jan 2015 #176

Well I still believe in innocent until proven guilty a concept that seems to be lost here. ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #202

LOL cyberswede Jan 2015 #207

Few things are black and white in life. You best hope for someone like me sitting on your jury if ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #209

I see. You can't show me where anyone in this thread eschews "innocent until proven guilty" cyberswede Jan 2015 #212

Do you know the situation with the people involved? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #213

Uh huh. It's not clear to me how someone who is passed out can "enjoy" anything cyberswede Jan 2015 #214

Believe it or not people are into all kinds of kink ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #215

Consenting to have sex while one partner is asleep isn't what the OP is talking about cyberswede Jan 2015 #216

This is what really annoys me, with you pontificating about shit madinmaryland Jan 2015 #185

Pontificating? trumad Jan 2015 #192

And don't leave your infant in the bathtub with the water running and go watch TV!! egduj Jan 2015 #188

This post is offensive BEYOND belief. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #195

Yet you participated in it anyway ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #204

my post? trumad Jan 2015 #205

No trumad I posted this in the wrong place I'm sorry. cherokeeprogressive Jan 2015 #217

There was a piece in Jezebel yesterday about frat rushes at UVa this semester Recursion Jan 2015 #199

My alert stalker alerted yesterday... trumad Jan 2015 #210

"Why does this only apply to men?" Rex Jan 2015 #218