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JustAnotherGen

(31,780 posts)
203. I'm surprised you missed this post of someone point defending and justifying the Zimpigs shooting
Mon Jan 12, 2015, 02:26 PM
Jan 2015
PorridgeGun (80 posts)
249. Dancing around the actual facts and sticking your heads in the sand isn't going to get you very far
GZ had bleeding contusions on the back of his head from hitting the concrete sidewalk. He was bleeding from his nose and likely had a closed fracture, along with numerous other minor lacerations. UNderstand?

Zimmerman was the only one with injuries consistent with being physical assaulted, get it?

There was not a shred of evidence that Trayvon had started out as the victim of Zimmermans aggressions, not even the sort of light bruising that would result from a hard shove or the dna under the fingernails and on the hands that commonly results from defensive parry. Are you with me so far? And yes, I know, there are people stupid enough to believe that Trayvon not having Z's DNA under his nails goes against Zimmerman, but we understand differently now, don't we?

Ohh.. someone hit their head on the concrete just once and got knocked cold? Oh wait, no, it has nothing to do with that. He was knocked senseless by the first punch and likely fell to the ground limp. That certainly will ring your bell, but it has about as much to do with the Zimmerman case as the particulars of Mike Tysons last fight.

Next you'll be telling me about the guy that died after being hit by one punch, so how could zimmerman even have been alive to fire the shot? OMG! VAMPIRE!


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023645749#post249


He made it all the way to November of this year with his 80 posts. Seems like he joined in August of 2013. . .


This one is so much better though . . .

the discussion thread: O'Mara: George Zimmerman will ask state to cover $200K-$300K of his legal bills [View all]
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #24)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 10:12 AM
PorridgeGun (80 posts)
70. Fact is? Oh dear..
Fact is, Z is not guilty of murder in anywhere other than your imagination. He never was, and should never have been charged.

Sorry assed jury?

Fact is, you'd rather make defamatory comments about people you don't know and have never met rather than admit that the 6 people who found him unanimously not guilty might have had a more even handed perspective on the thing than you can manage.

Fact is, there is no evidence zimmerman "stalked" Trayvon. Sorry, getting out of your car to see what someone who has just disappeared behind a row of houses might be up to is not "stalking" by any sane definition of the term.

Fact is, it was the unhinged, emotionally hysterical reactions to the case that prompted an unscrupulous but politically cunning prosecutor with a history of overcharging defendants to put on a show trial at enormous taxpayer expense.

Fact is. you are on to something when you cite the self defense laws, but you. like many commenters on here, are unable to get your minds off of demonizing zimmy, the jury and anyone who disagrees with you long enough to have a positive impact on that issue.

Fact is, Zimmy is a mediocrity who represents the attitudes and views of a very large swath of middle american men around his age. He was emboldened SYG to get out of his car when he should have stayed put. These laws create new Zimmermans by the tens of thousands and the focus should have been on them from the beginning rather on ridiculous attempts to paint Z as a "bigot" when, yet again, there is no evidence he is/was and some evidence to the contrary.

If people were willing to spend the amount of time and energy getting these laws amended or repealed that they've spent shrieking anti-zimmerman invectives over the internet and airwaves we might have seen some positive change on the issue.

If you're true to form you'll now accuse me of being a Zimmerman supporter despite the fact I've made it clear I believe he f&^ked up by not staying put, which is the problem. If this case has screwed with your mind to the point where you cannot brook any disagreement without spouting hysterical, defamatory drivel, perhaps you should take a break.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=577176


Oh by the way - did you know that the Medical Examiner was told to shut up even though he had proof that Zimmerman was the aggressor?


At minimum - if not outright 'defending' - then - he certainly spent his time here as a whiny little snot didn't he? Oh the POUTrage that someone doesn't like the Zimpig! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh the manateeeeeeeeeeeeee!

I'm surprised that second one which was pretty insulting to the poster wasn't hidden. He obviously was so upset that someone thought Zimmie was too wet to step on and too low to kick that he needed the smelling salts.
The fact that we had Zimmerman defenders here on DU ..... marmar Jan 2015 #1
It is/was out not-so-sleepy sleeper-cell…. PCIntern Jan 2015 #4
It's no longer the DU of yesterday years. FarPoint Jan 2015 #5
Those on the left were tolerated when DU was 'underground'. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #109
The Left was a minimum requirement back in the day. FarPoint Jan 2015 #113
You've learned that in the one month you've been here? FSogol Jan 2015 #128
Things that make you wonder, eh? Hekate Jan 2015 #154
Funny how that works, isn't it? arcane1 Jan 2015 #201
really? Bwahh.haa haa haaa? Sheepshank Jan 2015 #219
It's about freaking time. Chemisse Jan 2015 #2
They will be back to show us how foolish they are at some point Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #3
true that... trumad Jan 2015 #6
i'm skeptical there were people that defended Zimmerman Enrique Jan 2015 #7
or those who do not believe the prosecution proved their case DrDan Jan 2015 #9
oh please... trumad Jan 2015 #11
Oh please what? GGJohn Jan 2015 #13
There was no reasonable doubt, the asshole admitted to following and killing Trayvon Martin Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #14
Go peddle your nonsense elsewhere. GGJohn Jan 2015 #18
No you go peddle your nonsense elsewhere, this is Democratic Underground not Gun Love Underground Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #21
WTF does "gun love" have to do with my post? GGJohn Jan 2015 #22
The defense attorneys may try to smear the victim but the victim's rights still need to be respected Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #23
My post has nothing to do with my position on firearms, that's irrelevent to this GGJohn Jan 2015 #26
I am not talking about the defense attorney Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #28
The shooting victim does have rights, that's what the prosecutor's are for, GGJohn Jan 2015 #33
Not exactly.... IowaGuy Jan 2015 #189
Thank you!!!!!! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #168
The jury referred to him as "georgie boy" as I recall...there was no doubt, you are right randys1 Jan 2015 #34
The jury did not refer to him as "Georgie boy", only one juror did that. GGJohn Jan 2015 #38
Did they need a unanimous decision to convict? randys1 Jan 2015 #41
In our system, yes, it has to be a unanimous decision in a criminal trial to convict. GGJohn Jan 2015 #43
Oh, so as a liberal you think maybe Trayvon precipitate his death somehow? randys1 Jan 2015 #45
Where the fuck did I ever say that? GGJohn Jan 2015 #47
I said i thought all liberals agreed on this, you said you thought liberals were not like cons randys1 Jan 2015 #50
The only fucking position I'm taking is that the jury, GGJohn Jan 2015 #52
First, I agreed that DA purposely fucked up the case, the racist DA and justice system randys1 Jan 2015 #53
Those reason for his acquittal were because of the lack of a robust prosecution GGJohn Jan 2015 #59
Don't apologize randy JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #125
why are you playing these little word games? backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #83
Ahh yes, it is a liberal who AGGRESSIVELY pushes liberal positions who are the problem at DU randys1 Jan 2015 #85
Now I get it, GGJohn Jan 2015 #88
Not mine, the VAST majority of posters here who agree that Zimmerman hunted and killed randys1 Jan 2015 #90
Who here has denied that that's what happened? eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #93
Pls leave it alone with the hijacking of the thread . . . brush Jan 2015 #96
yep that's exactly what I said backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #99
... randys1 Jan 2015 #101
WTF? backwoodsbob Jan 2015 #102
LOL. eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #103
I like your link better. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #129
there was reasonable doubt introduced from witness after witness DrDan Jan 2015 #49
And from those witnesses? MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #56
All prosecution witnesses phil89 Jan 2015 #104
exactly DrDan Jan 2015 #106
Defending himself from what? liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #139
That's the problem LittleBlue Jan 2015 #234
The "problem" is that you're saying self-defense only works one way. R B Garr Jan 2015 #243
And here is where your argument breaks down LittleBlue Jan 2015 #244
like we saw in Ferguson, prosecutors present the case they want to present notadmblnd Jan 2015 #81
Yes. GGJohn Jan 2015 #84
It's amazing how so many on DU cannot distinguish Vattel Jan 2015 #121
Is someone who makes the following statement a "Zimmerman Defender"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #15
to many here, yes Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #27
He Learned His Lesson After The Henry Louis Gates Gaffe wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #32
OBAMA faces relentless racism and hate, all day, everyday, from up to ONE HUNDRED MILLION randys1 Jan 2015 #37
Yes, Obama has to defend the indefensible otherwise the one hundred million rabid racist randys1 Jan 2015 #46
So if he had not chosen to make that statement, a "race war" would have ensued? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #65
It's statements like that, that you just want to GGJohn Jan 2015 #67
no! Enrique Jan 2015 #63
No, no, no. GGJohn Jan 2015 #64
Here is an example Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #73
Ah, someone mentioned "reasonable doubt", exactly like President Obama did (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #75
I don't care one way or another. I was just citing something I saw I took to be an example Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #80
so someone says there was reasonable doubt in the Casey Anthony case Enrique Jan 2015 #79
I have said Mark Furhman arguably introduced reasonable doubt into the OJ Simpson case Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #98
I think you need to check your link therre, Katashi. Sissyk Jan 2015 #133
What took you so long? nt brush Jan 2015 #91
I defended Zimmerman to the extent that people were howling MURDER before the facts were known Dreamer Tatum Jan 2015 #224
I think most of them were trolls who have been banned. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #8
I saw one on Saturday JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #126
At this point, the average American has a better chance of being assaulted by GZ than winning the PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #10
Why would you think that people who agreed with the jury would defend him on unrelated charges Taitertots Jan 2015 #12
There is no reason we should see things from the perspective of racist murder defenders Bjorn Against Jan 2015 #16
But that would require not mischaracterizing other people's positions mythology Jan 2015 #20
many did not agree with the jury also Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #30
Too Bad They Were Deferring To What Is Pretty Much An All-White Jury wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #35
Too bad that is the system Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #42
And You See How Well It Turned Out wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #94
how would you fix it? Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #95
Are You Interested In Fixing The Problem wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #118
well since you are the one that said it was broken Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #148
So It's Not Broken? wellst0nev0ter Jan 2015 #153
They are still here: demmiblue Jan 2015 #17
I don't think sheshe2 is a "Zimmerman defender". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #19
Sheshe2's whole thread is chock full of Zimmy defenders. HappyMe Jan 2015 #25
Do you mind providing a link to an actual post there that you see as "defending Zimmy"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #29
I too would like to see those Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #31
And I've seen the opposite, so people have probably figured out R B Garr Jan 2015 #100
I'm surprised you missed this post of someone point defending and justifying the Zimpigs shooting JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #203
Thank you! Good to see that low-post count troll was removed by MIRT! Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #206
So no acknowledgment - zip, zero, nilch JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #210
MIRT does an excellent job and did (of course) eventually ban him. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #211
You could have provided that link yourself Nye JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #218
I might have seen that thread but missed the post that you spotted in the 250+ responses. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #220
Really? You must not retain what you read/peruse in depth. . . JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #225
Wait.... so because I cited this one post of yours, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #227
Actually no JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #228
Take your time. Let us know when you find one (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #55
Sorry, but real life interrrupted HappyMe Jan 2015 #72
Yep. It is very time-consuming to find a single "Zimmy-supporting" post Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #74
I'm not willing to play your game. HappyMe Jan 2015 #82
That is the tactic. trumad Jan 2015 #86
OK, PM me the link and I will post it myself. So you have no risk of getting a hide (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #87
I gave him one JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #204
Nobody ever got a post hidden for linking to a low-post count troll who got banned. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #208
He was here for over a year JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #209
Exactly. H2O Man Jan 2015 #213
I don't understand why he's arguing this point so vociferously JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #217
Not sure that thanking you for a link and praising MIRT for banning someone Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #221
One of the people who doesn't post enough here these days is H20 Man JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #223
Exactly 2 H2O Man Jan 2015 #222
When someone makes a complaint about behavior on DU, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #229
Oh, deer! H2O Man Jan 2015 #230
Yep malaise Jan 2015 #24
You mean other than the ones you can see everywhere...weird how you can say you are not randys1 Jan 2015 #39
I don't see what's so funny about it pipi_k Jan 2015 #36
Anyone who defended him at ANY point is a defender of a murderer and i wont say more randys1 Jan 2015 #40
It's like Hannity took Cliven off his speed dial underpants Jan 2015 #44
Like this guy.. butterfly77 Jan 2015 #48
Defending Zimm and suggesting the state didn't prove their case are two different things davidn3600 Jan 2015 #51
not to some here . . . one-in-the-same DrDan Jan 2015 #57
I guess I was wrong... trumad Jan 2015 #54
Yes... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #58
Here's another one for you, GGJohn Jan 2015 #62
Wel... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #115
I wish, eyesight going, legs going, brain going, and the most important GGJohn Jan 2015 #116
Presumably you alerted on those despicable, Zimmerman-defending posts Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #60
Point out one person that's defending Zimmerman the person here. GGJohn Jan 2015 #61
been here a long long time trumad Jan 2015 #66
Interesting how the "DU IS FULL OF ZIMMY SUPPORTERS!" folks Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #68
Well that's kind of hard to do... trumad Jan 2015 #76
PM me the link. I'll post it and risk getting the hide (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #89
I don't trust you as far as I can throw you. trumad Jan 2015 #92
Uh huh Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #97
I found a safe example upthread Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #205
So in other words, you can't provide a link to anyone here defending GGJohn Jan 2015 #69
Uh huh trumad Jan 2015 #77
that's not how this game is played Enrique Jan 2015 #71
uh huh trumad Jan 2015 #78
I believe you are a Zimmerman defender. onpatrol98 Jan 2015 #150
As I have stated many times, IMO, Zimmerman is guilty of Vol. Manslaughter, GGJohn Jan 2015 #152
It's my opinion... onpatrol98 Jan 2015 #157
I didn't say based on the evidence, I said based on the law, the only correct GGJohn Jan 2015 #158
~~~~ Hekate Jan 2015 #155
You give him/her a +1 so it seems you agree, I would like to request that you GGJohn Jan 2015 #156
+1 Starry Messenger Jan 2015 #171
+1 demmiblue Jan 2015 #198
Wow, that's deep. eom GGJohn Jan 2015 #200
+1 Bobbie Jo Jan 2015 #199
He's going to end up like OJ Nevernose Jan 2015 #70
I noticed the same thing JonLP24 Jan 2015 #105
I agree with you, GGJohn Jan 2015 #108
Yet Zimmerman, the person, is who shot Trayvon. R B Garr Jan 2015 #202
No fucking shit!!! GGJohn Jan 2015 #231
Then quit separating them and pretending no one notices. R B Garr Jan 2015 #235
This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2015 #236
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 2015 #107
I have seen that too bluestateguy Jan 2015 #110
Basically what my Op is about... trumad Jan 2015 #112
Droll post to toot your own horn miyazaki Jan 2015 #111
There are quite a few still here. n/t Jamastiene Jan 2015 #114
trust me, that crowd has simply moved to twitter Blue_Tires Jan 2015 #117
Zimmerman is scum cwydro Jan 2015 #119
sure they did trumad Jan 2015 #120
I really wish H2O Man Jan 2015 #122
same characters come running every time. trumad Jan 2015 #124
I noticed that JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #127
Yep billh58 Jan 2015 #212
But what is going on with DU juries? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #130
Zero. H2O Man Jan 2015 #131
Grumbling about DU posts you dislike, while never alerting on any of them, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #132
I wouldn't know. H2O Man Jan 2015 #134
Bemoaning "Zim-porters clustering and sticking" is not "grumbling"? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #160
So, H2O Man, why don't you point out who here is defending Zimmerman the person. GGJohn Jan 2015 #136
Yes, you will wait. H2O Man Jan 2015 #137
Thought so, GGJohn Jan 2015 #138
Gosh. H2O Man Jan 2015 #140
because it will get juried trumad Jan 2015 #141
As I told you before, GGJohn Jan 2015 #142
you don't maybe trumad Jan 2015 #144
I don't doubt it, it's happened to me and I condemn the practice, GGJohn Jan 2015 #145
here's the thing trumad Jan 2015 #147
yep, happened to me several times Duckhunter935 Jan 2015 #149
True, that. H2O Man Jan 2015 #143
it's like my Republican friends... trumad Jan 2015 #146
You only have 1 hidden post in the past 90 days. 4 hides to go before you are suspended. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #161
suspended for 4 months at the end of 2013 trumad Jan 2015 #169
That seems so unfair pintobean Jan 2015 #172
Yes, you do keep track of things. R B Garr Jan 2015 #176
That was a bannered announcement. pintobean Jan 2015 #177
Oh, I doubt that was the real reason for your post. R B Garr Jan 2015 #179
Why don't you tell us what he meant pintobean Jan 2015 #180
Better yet, you tell us why you care about his posts. R B Garr Jan 2015 #181
I was pretty clear about my concern pintobean Jan 2015 #183
Yes, you are very clear about your "concern" for trumad. R B Garr Jan 2015 #185
And here you are so concerned about pintobean's posts. GGJohn Jan 2015 #232
You are here, too. So concerned about protecting Zimmerman R B Garr Jan 2015 #233
Saying I'm protecting Zimmerman is a lie, so why are you lying? GGJohn Jan 2015 #237
Hey, if you want to contradict yourself, go right ahead. R B Garr Jan 2015 #238
See? You're lying again about what I said. GGJohn Jan 2015 #239
Obviously the prosecution did poorly, but it's a lie R B Garr Jan 2015 #240
If you're going to continue to lie, then we're done here. GGJohn Jan 2015 #241
LOL, your own post #59 in this thread describes your OPINION R B Garr Jan 2015 #242
Right, it's my opinion that the jury got it right because the prosecution screwed up GGJohn Jan 2015 #245
Jury Results Blue_Adept Jan 2015 #246
not saying I did not deserve it... trumad Jan 2015 #186
Thank you Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #123
Wonder what George will do next? Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #135
I don't remember anyone here defending him Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #151
Many in this thread have pointed this out, and asked the OP for a link to any post, anywhere on DU, Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #159
Oh yes DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #162
But like everyone else who claims this, you can't provide a single link as an example, can you? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #163
here ya go DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #164
That's a link to a post by UnrepentantLiberal Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #165
no, I said DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #166
there are plenty of links like that... trumad Jan 2015 #170
Can you provide a link to an example of such a post? (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #173
Nice choice, Don pintobean Jan 2015 #174
here ya go DonCoquixote Jan 2015 #175
The first post you linked to said that Zimmerman's rescue "may have been staged", Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #190
and I would tell each one of fools what a bunch of gopiscrap Jan 2015 #167
This thread illustrates that many of his defenders' new line is "who ever defend him?" LanternWaste Jan 2015 #178
Actually a reasonable question, as nobody is able to produce a link to a "Zimmerman defending" post. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #192
Bless your little heart. Of course you can't remember any posts defending Zimmerman. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #194
(Lanternwaste does quick DU Google search and is unable to find "Zimmy-defending post") Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #195
Funny how this OP brought billh58 Jan 2015 #182
yep trumad Jan 2015 #188
Except that neither the OP nor you can cite a single post in this thread that "defends Zimmerman". Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #191
Funny how this OP brought DrDan Jan 2015 #196
Can you post a link of someone defending Zimmerman? eom. GGJohn Jan 2015 #197
Someone upthread finally provided a link to the kind of post Trumad has in mind. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #215
I don't know. The fools in my neighborhood and in my own family defend him. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2015 #184
Most of those defending Zman here were also gun toters. Hoyt Jan 2015 #187
Not this website but there are a few still defending him Catherine Vincent Jan 2015 #193
Actually someone upthread provided a link to a DU post that arguably defended Zimmerman. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #214
Like I said... trumad Jan 2015 #216
Agreed and the example I provided Trumad JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #226
now he's beating up white people samsingh Jan 2015 #207
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