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In reply to the discussion: Funny how the George Zimmerman defenders--here, there and everywhere have stopped defending him. [View all]JustAnotherGen
(31,780 posts)203. I'm surprised you missed this post of someone point defending and justifying the Zimpigs shooting
PorridgeGun (80 posts)
249. Dancing around the actual facts and sticking your heads in the sand isn't going to get you very far
GZ had bleeding contusions on the back of his head from hitting the concrete sidewalk. He was bleeding from his nose and likely had a closed fracture, along with numerous other minor lacerations. UNderstand?
Zimmerman was the only one with injuries consistent with being physical assaulted, get it?
There was not a shred of evidence that Trayvon had started out as the victim of Zimmermans aggressions, not even the sort of light bruising that would result from a hard shove or the dna under the fingernails and on the hands that commonly results from defensive parry. Are you with me so far? And yes, I know, there are people stupid enough to believe that Trayvon not having Z's DNA under his nails goes against Zimmerman, but we understand differently now, don't we?
Ohh.. someone hit their head on the concrete just once and got knocked cold? Oh wait, no, it has nothing to do with that. He was knocked senseless by the first punch and likely fell to the ground limp. That certainly will ring your bell, but it has about as much to do with the Zimmerman case as the particulars of Mike Tysons last fight.
Next you'll be telling me about the guy that died after being hit by one punch, so how could zimmerman even have been alive to fire the shot? OMG! VAMPIRE!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023645749#post249
249. Dancing around the actual facts and sticking your heads in the sand isn't going to get you very far
GZ had bleeding contusions on the back of his head from hitting the concrete sidewalk. He was bleeding from his nose and likely had a closed fracture, along with numerous other minor lacerations. UNderstand?
Zimmerman was the only one with injuries consistent with being physical assaulted, get it?
There was not a shred of evidence that Trayvon had started out as the victim of Zimmermans aggressions, not even the sort of light bruising that would result from a hard shove or the dna under the fingernails and on the hands that commonly results from defensive parry. Are you with me so far? And yes, I know, there are people stupid enough to believe that Trayvon not having Z's DNA under his nails goes against Zimmerman, but we understand differently now, don't we?
Ohh.. someone hit their head on the concrete just once and got knocked cold? Oh wait, no, it has nothing to do with that. He was knocked senseless by the first punch and likely fell to the ground limp. That certainly will ring your bell, but it has about as much to do with the Zimmerman case as the particulars of Mike Tysons last fight.
Next you'll be telling me about the guy that died after being hit by one punch, so how could zimmerman even have been alive to fire the shot? OMG! VAMPIRE!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023645749#post249
He made it all the way to November of this year with his 80 posts. Seems like he joined in August of 2013. . .
This one is so much better though . . .
the discussion thread: O'Mara: George Zimmerman will ask state to cover $200K-$300K of his legal bills [View all]
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Response to Hoyt (Reply #24)
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 10:12 AM
PorridgeGun (80 posts)
70. Fact is? Oh dear..
Fact is, Z is not guilty of murder in anywhere other than your imagination. He never was, and should never have been charged.
Sorry assed jury?
Fact is, you'd rather make defamatory comments about people you don't know and have never met rather than admit that the 6 people who found him unanimously not guilty might have had a more even handed perspective on the thing than you can manage.
Fact is, there is no evidence zimmerman "stalked" Trayvon. Sorry, getting out of your car to see what someone who has just disappeared behind a row of houses might be up to is not "stalking" by any sane definition of the term.
Fact is, it was the unhinged, emotionally hysterical reactions to the case that prompted an unscrupulous but politically cunning prosecutor with a history of overcharging defendants to put on a show trial at enormous taxpayer expense.
Fact is. you are on to something when you cite the self defense laws, but you. like many commenters on here, are unable to get your minds off of demonizing zimmy, the jury and anyone who disagrees with you long enough to have a positive impact on that issue.
Fact is, Zimmy is a mediocrity who represents the attitudes and views of a very large swath of middle american men around his age. He was emboldened SYG to get out of his car when he should have stayed put. These laws create new Zimmermans by the tens of thousands and the focus should have been on them from the beginning rather on ridiculous attempts to paint Z as a "bigot" when, yet again, there is no evidence he is/was and some evidence to the contrary.
If people were willing to spend the amount of time and energy getting these laws amended or repealed that they've spent shrieking anti-zimmerman invectives over the internet and airwaves we might have seen some positive change on the issue.
If you're true to form you'll now accuse me of being a Zimmerman supporter despite the fact I've made it clear I believe he f&^ked up by not staying put, which is the problem. If this case has screwed with your mind to the point where you cannot brook any disagreement without spouting hysterical, defamatory drivel, perhaps you should take a break.
70. Fact is? Oh dear..
Fact is, Z is not guilty of murder in anywhere other than your imagination. He never was, and should never have been charged.
Sorry assed jury?
Fact is, you'd rather make defamatory comments about people you don't know and have never met rather than admit that the 6 people who found him unanimously not guilty might have had a more even handed perspective on the thing than you can manage.
Fact is, there is no evidence zimmerman "stalked" Trayvon. Sorry, getting out of your car to see what someone who has just disappeared behind a row of houses might be up to is not "stalking" by any sane definition of the term.
Fact is, it was the unhinged, emotionally hysterical reactions to the case that prompted an unscrupulous but politically cunning prosecutor with a history of overcharging defendants to put on a show trial at enormous taxpayer expense.
Fact is. you are on to something when you cite the self defense laws, but you. like many commenters on here, are unable to get your minds off of demonizing zimmy, the jury and anyone who disagrees with you long enough to have a positive impact on that issue.
Fact is, Zimmy is a mediocrity who represents the attitudes and views of a very large swath of middle american men around his age. He was emboldened SYG to get out of his car when he should have stayed put. These laws create new Zimmermans by the tens of thousands and the focus should have been on them from the beginning rather on ridiculous attempts to paint Z as a "bigot" when, yet again, there is no evidence he is/was and some evidence to the contrary.
If people were willing to spend the amount of time and energy getting these laws amended or repealed that they've spent shrieking anti-zimmerman invectives over the internet and airwaves we might have seen some positive change on the issue.
If you're true to form you'll now accuse me of being a Zimmerman supporter despite the fact I've made it clear I believe he f&^ked up by not staying put, which is the problem. If this case has screwed with your mind to the point where you cannot brook any disagreement without spouting hysterical, defamatory drivel, perhaps you should take a break.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=577176
Oh by the way - did you know that the Medical Examiner was told to shut up even though he had proof that Zimmerman was the aggressor?
At minimum - if not outright 'defending' - then - he certainly spent his time here as a whiny little snot didn't he? Oh the POUTrage that someone doesn't like the Zimpig! Ohhhhhhhhhhhh the manateeeeeeeeeeeeee!
I'm surprised that second one which was pretty insulting to the poster wasn't hidden. He obviously was so upset that someone thought Zimmie was too wet to step on and too low to kick that he needed the smelling salts.
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Funny how the George Zimmerman defenders--here, there and everywhere have stopped defending him. [View all]
trumad
Jan 2015
OP
There was no reasonable doubt, the asshole admitted to following and killing Trayvon Martin
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#14
No you go peddle your nonsense elsewhere, this is Democratic Underground not Gun Love Underground
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#21
The defense attorneys may try to smear the victim but the victim's rights still need to be respected
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#23
My post has nothing to do with my position on firearms, that's irrelevent to this
GGJohn
Jan 2015
#26
The jury referred to him as "georgie boy" as I recall...there was no doubt, you are right
randys1
Jan 2015
#34
In our system, yes, it has to be a unanimous decision in a criminal trial to convict.
GGJohn
Jan 2015
#43
I said i thought all liberals agreed on this, you said you thought liberals were not like cons
randys1
Jan 2015
#50
First, I agreed that DA purposely fucked up the case, the racist DA and justice system
randys1
Jan 2015
#53
Ahh yes, it is a liberal who AGGRESSIVELY pushes liberal positions who are the problem at DU
randys1
Jan 2015
#85
Not mine, the VAST majority of posters here who agree that Zimmerman hunted and killed
randys1
Jan 2015
#90
OBAMA faces relentless racism and hate, all day, everyday, from up to ONE HUNDRED MILLION
randys1
Jan 2015
#37
Yes, Obama has to defend the indefensible otherwise the one hundred million rabid racist
randys1
Jan 2015
#46
So if he had not chosen to make that statement, a "race war" would have ensued?
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#65
Ah, someone mentioned "reasonable doubt", exactly like President Obama did (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#75
I don't care one way or another. I was just citing something I saw I took to be an example
Katashi_itto
Jan 2015
#80
I have said Mark Furhman arguably introduced reasonable doubt into the OJ Simpson case
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#98
I defended Zimmerman to the extent that people were howling MURDER before the facts were known
Dreamer Tatum
Jan 2015
#224
At this point, the average American has a better chance of being assaulted by GZ than winning the
PeaceNikki
Jan 2015
#10
Why would you think that people who agreed with the jury would defend him on unrelated charges
Taitertots
Jan 2015
#12
There is no reason we should see things from the perspective of racist murder defenders
Bjorn Against
Jan 2015
#16
Do you mind providing a link to an actual post there that you see as "defending Zimmy"?
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#29
I'm surprised you missed this post of someone point defending and justifying the Zimpigs shooting
JustAnotherGen
Jan 2015
#203
I might have seen that thread but missed the post that you spotted in the 250+ responses.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#220
OK, PM me the link and I will post it myself. So you have no risk of getting a hide (nt)
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#87
Nobody ever got a post hidden for linking to a low-post count troll who got banned.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#208
You mean other than the ones you can see everywhere...weird how you can say you are not
randys1
Jan 2015
#39
Anyone who defended him at ANY point is a defender of a murderer and i wont say more
randys1
Jan 2015
#40
Defending Zimm and suggesting the state didn't prove their case are two different things
davidn3600
Jan 2015
#51
So, H2O Man, why don't you point out who here is defending Zimmerman the person.
GGJohn
Jan 2015
#136
You only have 1 hidden post in the past 90 days. 4 hides to go before you are suspended.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#161
Right, it's my opinion that the jury got it right because the prosecution screwed up
GGJohn
Jan 2015
#245
Many in this thread have pointed this out, and asked the OP for a link to any post, anywhere on DU,
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#159
But like everyone else who claims this, you can't provide a single link as an example, can you?
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#163
The first post you linked to said that Zimmerman's rescue "may have been staged",
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#190
This thread illustrates that many of his defenders' new line is "who ever defend him?"
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#178
Actually a reasonable question, as nobody is able to produce a link to a "Zimmerman defending" post.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#192
Bless your little heart. Of course you can't remember any posts defending Zimmerman.
LanternWaste
Jan 2015
#194
(Lanternwaste does quick DU Google search and is unable to find "Zimmy-defending post")
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#195
Except that neither the OP nor you can cite a single post in this thread that "defends Zimmerman".
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#191
Someone upthread finally provided a link to the kind of post Trumad has in mind.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#215
I don't know. The fools in my neighborhood and in my own family defend him.
ScreamingMeemie
Jan 2015
#184
Actually someone upthread provided a link to a DU post that arguably defended Zimmerman.
Nye Bevan
Jan 2015
#214