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joshcryer

(62,279 posts)
52. You're right, that was being too harsh on PBO.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 04:41 AM
Dec 2014

Warren didn't run for the first time until the Clintons and Obama finally got her out of that world of administrative committees and panels. That's what bothers me the most, if anyone should understand administrative work, she should know just how tied their hands are. She even writes about how the insiders and outsiders don't get along in her book! But on the committees she acts just like an insider. It's actually astounding, given the fact that the CPFB, which she spearheaded, turned into this nutered organization which is the only bank regulator that can be overruled by other administrative regulators.

You want to know what's rich?

In her speech blasting the Senate for holding up Cordray's nomination, Warren lamented that the CFPB was the only agency that could be vetoed by outside agencies when she says, "the CFPB is the only agency in government subject to a veto by other agencies," but in her testimony of May 2011, she said of such veto power, "I understand – and greatly appreciate – the important role of oversight."

If you don't want your agency to be the only agency in the entire administrative conglomeration of the United States government to be able to be vetoed, then why allow it? All administrative rules are governed by the Administrative Procedure Act, which means that the courts or the congress get to decide if rules are overreaching or not. And it's why in my other post I pointed out how nutered the SEC is, because whenever it does do new financial rules, they're overturned more than any other agency, usually by Bush appointed judges.

Anyway, again, you're right about Obama, he actually followed a classical roadmap to the Presidency. State Legislature, Congressional House, Congressional Senate, Presidency. The other roadmap is generally Law, Attorney General (or other high ranking position), Governor. In a way the Governor route is easier.

No. bigwillq Dec 2014 #1
Same here nt newfie11 Dec 2014 #10
Yes. 840high Dec 2014 #19
Yes. I would like to see a woman President before I die, Bernie is also my first choice. Autumn Dec 2014 #2
Too soon to say. silverweb Dec 2014 #3
I agree Andy823 Dec 2014 #18
Agree completely. silverweb Dec 2014 #26
She kicked so much Senate ass this week, I'm starting to want to keep her there to kick more! arcane1 Dec 2014 #4
second after Bernie nt G_j Dec 2014 #5
Sanders Or Warren... fredamae Dec 2014 #6
I'm in a caucus state Nevernose Dec 2014 #7
I'm a Hillary supporter but would welcome Warren into the race, Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #8
I'd like to see the full menu and ask a few questions about ingredients and preparation prior to Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #9
+1 silverweb Dec 2014 #27
I really like Warren, but she'll need to get up to speed on areas outside her expertise. amandabeech Dec 2014 #11
I'd vote for Warren or Sanders, but to be honest, I can hardly bear to see someone I admire Stardust Dec 2014 #12
Yes PAProgressive28 Dec 2014 #13
I voted "Other"; because ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2014 #14
I have major issues with her openly declaring giftedgirl77 Dec 2014 #44
There's a good probability, LWolf Dec 2014 #15
Yes, and I would work hard for her campaign deutsey Dec 2014 #16
+1 RiverLover Dec 2014 #36
Bernie said he may run. Elizabeth said she isn't running. So Zorra Dec 2014 #17
She's said, "I'm not running", and this is true. She isn't. No one is. Yet. RiverLover Dec 2014 #24
I support Bernie at this point, because woo me with science Dec 2014 #20
Yes, she is at the top of my list. Brigid Dec 2014 #21
Probably, barring anyone else that has similar appeal. I certainly am not voting for HRC. 2banon Dec 2014 #22
But Manny, she's the "Tea Left" with ideas that will set us back decades, just like the "Tea Right" WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2014 #23
Yep, apparently "tea left" TDale313 Dec 2014 #33
tea left, turd right The t's have it aspirant Dec 2014 #34
See, Manny, Chuck Todd says she's batshit crazy like Ted Cruz! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2014 #25
Even Fox News is reporting she's going to shutdown the government! WhaTHellsgoingonhere Dec 2014 #30
Not just the media Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2014 #37
I'd back either Warren or Sanders. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #28
Senator Bernie Sanders would be my first choice. nt Ilsa Dec 2014 #29
Absolutely. Iggo Dec 2014 #31
Elizabeth or Bernie donco Dec 2014 #32
Yes. Warren DeMontague Dec 2014 #35
I'm provisionally holding out for Sanders (provided he, of course, changes his KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #38
No. i am backing Hillary. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #39
I would vote for her in a heartbeat. Terra Alta Dec 2014 #40
I'm not jumping on any bandwagons yet dflprincess Dec 2014 #41
She'd be near the top of my list, but I still have some questions. BillZBubb Dec 2014 #42
yes helpmetohelpyou Dec 2014 #43
No, because I don't know enough about her positions Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #45
IIRC... MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #46
That all sounds good Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #47
I like Bernie more, but Elizabeth can win... DemocraticWing Dec 2014 #48
No. joshcryer Dec 2014 #49
+1. That's been my strong impression too. Thanks for doing the homework! ucrdem Dec 2014 #51
You're right, that was being too harsh on PBO. joshcryer Dec 2014 #52
Pretty sure that her name, "Warren", only has 2 "r's" in it. Major Hogwash Dec 2014 #50
It is close but she may be a better senator than president. She has incredible knowledge and pampango Dec 2014 #53
I'll happily support her if she is nominated, but I'm leaning towards Schweitzer as of now (nt) Recursion Dec 2014 #54
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