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Hissyspit

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Sun Dec 7, 2014, 07:07 AM Dec 2014

What I've Learned from Two Years Collecting Data on Police Killings [View all]

I've been lied to and delayed by state, county and local law enforcement agencies—almost every time. They've blatantly broken public records laws, and then thumbed their authoritarian noses at the temerity of a citizen asking for information that might embarrass the agency.


http://gawker.com/what-ive-learned-from-two-years-collecting-data-on-poli-1625472836

What I've Learned from Two Years Collecting Data on Police Killings

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D. Brian Burghart
Filed to: POLICE BRUTALITY
COPS
DEATHS
PROJECTS
8/22/14 1:25pm

A few days ago, Deadspin's Kyle Wagner began to compile a list of all police-involved shootings in the U.S. He's not the only one to undertake such a project: D. Brian Burghart, editor of the Reno News & Review, has been attempting a crowdsourced national database of deadly police violence. We asked Brian to write about what he's learned from his project.

It began simply enough. Commuting home from my work at Reno's alt-weekly newspaper, the News & Review, on May 18, 2012, I drove past the aftermath of a police shooting—in this case, that of a man named Jace Herndon. It was a chaotic scene, and I couldn't help but wonder how often it happened.

I went home and grabbed my laptop and a glass of wine and tried to find out. I found nothing—a failure I simply chalked up to incompetent local media.

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I started to search in earnest. Nowhere could I find out how many people died during interactions with police in the United States. Try as I might, I just couldn't wrap my head around that idea. How was it that, in the 21st century, this data wasn't being tracked, compiled, and made available to the public? How could journalists know if police were killing too many people in their town if they didn't have a way to compare to other cities? Hell, how could citizens or police? How could cops possibly know "best practices" for dealing with any fluid situation? They couldn't.

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The biggest thing I've taken away from this project is something I'll never be able to prove, but I'm convinced to my core: The lack of such a database is intentional. No government—not the federal government, and not the thousands of municipalities that give their police forces license to use deadly force—wants you to know how many people it kills and why.

It's the only conclusion that can be drawn from the evidence. What evidence? In attempting to collect this information, I was lied to and delayed by the FBI, even when I was only trying to find out the addresses of police departments to make public records requests. The government collects millions of bits of data annually about law enforcement in its Uniform Crime Report, but it doesn't collect information about the most consequential act a law enforcer can do.

I've been lied to and delayed by state, county and local law enforcement agencies—almost every time. They've blatantly broken public records laws, and then thumbed their authoritarian noses at the temerity of a citizen asking for information that might embarrass the agency. And these are the people in charge of enforcing the law.

The second biggest thing I learned is that bad journalism colludes with police to hide this information. The primary reason for this is that police will cut off information to reporters who tell tales. And a reporter can't work if he or she can't talk to sources. It happened to me on almost every level as I advanced this year-long Fatal Encounters series through the News & Review. First they talk; then they stop, then they roadblock.

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Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Dec 2014 #1
Amazing that there are databases in some of the Anglophone malaise Dec 2014 #2
The police in the USA are worst then those under Russia Pres. Putin. sammy750 Dec 2014 #3
It's not just GOP... Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #4
And you felt the compelling need to post that because??? Speed8098 Dec 2014 #6
I was responding to the comment... Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #7
That is by definition maindawg Dec 2014 #8
Why? Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #22
wow, hyperbole much? pasto76 Dec 2014 #35
What do you mean by "Liberal controlled police agencies"?` eomer Dec 2014 #10
The mayor of New York City is a liberal. For instance. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #24
That would be an interesting list to see. Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #28
Right, that's a good question. In the case of NYC, de Blasio has been major just 11 months. eomer Dec 2014 #42
They are Rethuglicans of they behave that way. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #14
What? Why? Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #25
Wow, you re right. A single typo invalidates my entire argument. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #27
I guess so... Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #29
Your "question" is ridiculous and not worth replying to. ncjustice80 Dec 2014 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Munificence Dec 2014 #43
If they're dirty cops, they aren't liberal. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #11
Whatever... Callmecrazy Dec 2014 #23
I'm an expert on liberals. I am one. I know how they are. Enthusiast Dec 2014 #32
No true Scotsman n/t RufusTFirefly Dec 2014 #30
, blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #5
"The lack of such a database is intentional." Scuba Dec 2014 #9
^^^^^^I was just about to make the very same post.^^^^^^ woo me with science Dec 2014 #34
Kicked and recommended! Let's give this thread the attention it deserves! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #12
Thank you! marym625 Dec 2014 #13
K&R nt avebury Dec 2014 #15
So Much Information To Delve Into... ChiciB1 Dec 2014 #16
At the cost of 25 minutes or so of time, Ms. Toad Dec 2014 #20
Keep trying and trying. truedelphi Dec 2014 #39
So Very True... I Need To Re-Learn HOW ChiciB1 Dec 2014 #46
Sounds like a job Congress COULD DO. I didn't say would do because we all know that they won't. Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #17
First action they will take is reduce their work to 2.5 days per month. lonestarnot Dec 2014 #18
Crowdsource the database Ms. Toad Dec 2014 #19
Thanks for the link (and the prod). Bookmarked for review later today. I don't have KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #21
They are not the only ones who have learned that there is no data on the murder of US Citizens sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #26
Colorado under-reports officer-involved shootings jayschool Dec 2014 #31
Wikipedia... mwooldri Dec 2014 #33
Last about the last paragraph - the reason your locat news says things like "Police were forced to . Liberal_in_LA Dec 2014 #37
Great project. Gathering facts is going to be the first step in exposing our cop problem. pa28 Dec 2014 #38
K & R MoreGOPoop Dec 2014 #40
K&R nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2014 #41
K&R.... daleanime Dec 2014 #44
Of course they lie and hide info. blackspade Dec 2014 #45
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