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eridani

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Thu Nov 13, 2014, 11:05 PM Nov 2014

Robert Parry: When Henry Kissinger Makes Sense [View all]


Remember, Kissinger is and was an amoral Cold Warrior.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/26939-focus-when-henry-kissinger-makes-sense

Curiously, one of the few prominent Westerners who has dared question the prevailing wisdom on Ukraine is former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who said, in an interview with the German newsmagazine Der Spiegel, that the West was exaggerating the significance of the Crimean annexation given the peninsula’s long historic ties to Russia.

“The annexation of the Crimea was no bid for world domination,” the 91-year-old Kissinger said. “It is not to be compared with Hitler’s invasion in Czechoslovakia” – as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and others have done.

Kissinger noted that Russian President Vladimir Putin had no intention of instigating a crisis in Ukraine: “Putin had [spent] tens of billions of dollars for the Olympic Winter Games … in Sochi. Russia wanted to present [itself] as a progressive nation. … It does not make sense that Putin, a week later, [launches] the Crimea attacks and a war for Ukraine begins.”

Instead Kissinger argued that the West – with its strategy of pulling Ukraine into the orbit of the European Union – was responsible for the crisis by failing to understand Russian sensitivity over Ukraine and making the “fatal” mistake of quickly pushing the confrontation beyond dialogue.

But Kissinger also faulted Putin for his reaction to the crisis. “I do not want to say that Russia’s response was appropriate,” Kissinger said.

Still, Kissinger told Der Spiegel that “a new edition of the Cold War would be a tragedy. … We must keep in view, that we need Russia to solve other crises, such as the nuclear conflict with Iran or Syria’s civil war.”

When Henry Kissinger starts to sound like the voice of reason, it says a lot about how crazy the New York Times and the rest of the MSM have become.
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When Parry starts pimping Kissinger, I know he's gone completely insane Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #1
Do you also consider Hillary Clinton completely insane? starroute Nov 2014 #3
. nationalize the fed Nov 2014 #4
I think I have to disagree with Monty Python on one detail Electric Monk Nov 2014 #5
I'm addressing Parry's assertions here Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #6
Yes I do. Eridenus Nov 2014 #27
There you have it. Proof positive that Robert Parry has jumped the shark as a journalist. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #2
He's discussing an ISSUE raised by Kissinger eridani Nov 2014 #7
Those who have attempted to use Parry as a voice of authority on Ukraine.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #13
Let's have an example of Parry being factually wrong n/t eridani Nov 2014 #31
Hell, you don't have to go beyond the piece you just posted to find examples of that. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #32
It would never have happened without the fascist thugs eridani Nov 2014 #33
Yanukovych himself had no interest in waiting for elections. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #39
The violent parts of the Maidan protest were due to the fascist thugs. eridani Nov 2014 #50
Actually, Yanukovych was the first to use violence against the protesters. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #54
The violence that actually overthrew the government was perpetrated by fascist thugs eridani Nov 2014 #55
Again, the violence started with Yanukovych. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #56
The only Maidan protesters who were violent were the fascists eridani Nov 2014 #57
That's a rather broad statement, don't you think? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #58
Well said...issues and ideas... KoKo Nov 2014 #19
eridani - truth2power Nov 2014 #44
You can drop all the names you like, but if what they're saying doesn't jive with the actual facts.. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #45
You've already used that excuse, Tommy. Try again.. truth2power Nov 2014 #46
How's it an excuse? You're appealing to authority.... Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #47
I'm not doing your work for you... truth2power Nov 2014 #48
It's your conspiracy theory to prove. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #49
Agree, but it is funny that Parry, who always spoke in absolute morality terms, is for Realpolitik karynnj Nov 2014 #15
I don't know. His books on diplomacy are really good Recursion Nov 2014 #37
Kissinger is saying the strong state should get to dominate the weak one. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #8
All Middle Eastern countries that the US is bombing prefer that that not be the case eridani Nov 2014 #9
Iraq and Yemen would disagree with your assertion. geek tragedy Nov 2014 #10
Which is exactly the same as what US imperialist apologists think like eridani Nov 2014 #11
Chickenshit sir? Chickenshit? Xolodno Nov 2014 #34
Not quite: it sounds like Kissinger is saying that American officials misunderstood Putin Wella Nov 2014 #12
Putin had abundant opportunities to save face and geek tragedy Nov 2014 #26
We're not talking about reason: we're talking about diplomacy Wella Nov 2014 #30
A well stated under statement. Xolodno Nov 2014 #35
I think you're onto something. Wella Nov 2014 #38
A fascist principle and not surprising coming from someone like Kissinger. pampango Nov 2014 #21
As someone who grew up seeing stories of the atrocities in Bosnia and Rwanda... Odin2005 Nov 2014 #29
Kissinger's position (and by extension, Parry's) is completely non-sensical. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #14
Great summary karynnj Nov 2014 #16
I agree. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #17
Interesting conjecture that the President of Ukraine could have traded Crimea for sanctuary karynnj Nov 2014 #18
Isn't he saying Putin has every incentive to go into Crimea, but no farther? Recursion Nov 2014 #36
If that's his analysis, events in Eastern Ukraine would currently be proving him wrong. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #40
I never said the man was infallible, just smart (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #41
Definitely not stupid. Just amoral. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #42
Right. That's why his book is worth reading Recursion Nov 2014 #43
He may be right about the Crimea hifiguy Nov 2014 #20
Actually, when you think that Kissinger starts to sound like the voice of reason, you should start pampango Nov 2014 #22
It was a lame attempt by Parry to explain away why Kissinger is adopting Parry's stances on Ukraine Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #23
Encyclopedic references to the term "Any port in a storm" should refer to this article. nt stevenleser Nov 2014 #24
On a very meta level, it's very Realpolitik, wouldn't you agree? Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #25
Yep. None of us should be surprised when Kissinger minimizes an unprovoked war of aggression stevenleser Nov 2014 #51
Mainly because Kissinger's saying what Parry had already said. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2014 #53
Henry the War Criminal can kiss my Liberal Internationalist ass. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #28
well one war criminal knows well another war criminal rafeh1 Nov 2014 #52
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