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True Blue Door

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Fri Nov 7, 2014, 02:59 PM Nov 2014

Vote: What was the worst act of GOP Treason ever? [View all]

Here is the short list of Republican acts of treason over modern history:

The Business Plot (1933)

A group of wealthy industrialists attempted to hire a WW1 general to lead a fascist revolution to overthrow the Roosevelt administration. It would initially be a bloodless coup, although given how such things typically evolve in history, it's unlikely it would have stayed bloodless. Fortunately the general was not on board with the idea and reported the plot, although the Roosevelt administration, wishing to avoid potentially creating divisions in the American people at a dangerous time, chose not to prosecute it.

Watergate (1972-1974)

The Nixon administration formed a secret squad within the White House to conduct illegal covert operations to steal information, suppress leaks, and spy on political opponents. Serious discussions were underway to evolve the organization into a secret police force that would assassinate the President's enemies by the time the scandal broke.

October Surprise (1980)

Members of the Ronald Reagan presidential campaign and Republican Party were in contact with representatives of the Iranian revolutionary state that was then holding hundreds of American diplomats hostage in Tehran. They sought to ensure that the hostages would not be released while President Carter could benefit politically from it, so they (the Reaganistas) struck a deal with avowed enemies of the United States to benefit themselves politically.

Iran-Contra (1984-1987)

The Reagan administration had been financing fascist terrorist groups in Central America, but the US Congress took a dim view of this and banned any further support. Reagan ignored the ban and continued funding them illegally. This did not rise to the level of treason (merely impeachable crime), but the method of generating the illegal funding did: Selling weapons to Iran, an avowed enemy of the United States.

The 2000 coup (2000)

A number of interlocking conspiracies led to the final, fraudulent result of the 2000 US presidential election, but the two key factors were the criminal defrauding of the Florida vote through mass-disenfranchisement and other illegal behavior by the Republican Florida Secretary of State. The final act, however, was the lawless and arbitrary ruling of five members of the US Supreme Court, ordering the state of Florida to stop counting votes, and using as justification such bizarre Orwellian reasoning as that thorough examination might yield a different result and thus call Bush's victory into question. It was the most naked example in US history of electoral interference, and overturned the actual result of the election through raw exercise of power.

The US Constitution remained in a state of suspension for the next 6-8 years as a result of the ensuing dictatorship, leaving only state governments and a few standalone federal bureaucracies in effective operation. The next two acts of Treason followed directly from this one.

Torture (2001-2008)

Following 9/11, for years on end thousands of terrorism suspects - including innocent people whose names merely resembled suspects, or who were denounced by paid informants in third-world countries - were held in secret prisons and tortured to confess and give the names of other "terrorists." Anyone they named in order to stop the torture was also likely to be tortured if captured. Several prisoners are documented by the Red Cross to have been tortured to death, but their remains are classified and tape recordings of their torture were burned by the CIA to avoid justice. Crimes for which German and Japanese military officers were hanged after WW2 were finally gleefully admitted by Republican officials once they felt confident of never being brought to justice, though only after years of lying denials.

Iraq War (2003-2011)

Iraq had not attacked the United States, did not have the military capability to attack the United States, had no plans to attack the United States, was not in any way involved with terrorists, and there was no evidence whatsoever to the contrary on any point. Nonetheless, the Bush regime fabricated intelligence to claim so, retaliated against US intelligence officials who contradicted their lies, bullied and threatened Congressional leaders who opposed them, sabotaged UN weapons inspections efforts, ignored a United Nations refusal to authorize action in Iraq, and ordered the aggressive invasion and conquest of Iraq at the expense of 5,000 US lives, 40,000 or so Iraqi civilians through direct US military action, and ultimately a million Iraqi civilians from the ensuing chaos and deprivation.

Aside from the human toll, it also cost the United States taxpayer over a trillion dollars, much of which was stolen through no-bid contractors associated with Dick Cheney who delivered inferior or nonexistent goods or services for the money. The current situation with ISIS is a direct result of the Iraq War, as is nearly 10% of the US national debt. Surplus equipment from the Iraq War was then given to local police departments, contributing to the militarization of police forces in the United States. Thousands were tortured as a direct result of this war. Once again, German and Japanese military officers after WW2 were executed for crimes identical to this.

Vote suppression (2000 onward)

The GOP has gradually perfected the "science" of rigging elections by preventing likely Democratic voters from exercising their rights, usually by targeting racial minorities for selective and extraordinary demands to prove their identities, leading a state of intimidation and deterrence against voting. In many cases Republicans achieve office solely because they illegally stopped a sufficient number of opposing voters from participating, effectively sabotaging American democracy and ruling by force and fraud. The number of Americans prevented from voting by Republicans tends to grow with each passing year.

Vote for which one of these you consider the worst Republican Treason, or add your own in comments.

Update: I forgot about Nixon in 1968 (before he was President) sabotaging Vietnam peace talks to give himself the leg up in the election. Thanks to KingCharlemagne for bringing that up in a comment. Vast numbers of American and Vietnamese lives were lost in the war in the years following, which may otherwise have been saved. If you want to vote for that as the worst GOP Treason, vote "Other".


18 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The Business Plot
1 (6%)
Watergate
1 (6%)
October Surprise
1 (6%)
Iran-Contra
1 (6%)
The 2000 Coup
11 (61%)
Torture
0 (0%)
Iraq War
2 (11%)
Vote Suppression
0 (0%)
Other
1 (6%)
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I chose Watergate because Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon. That set the precedent that the repukes muntrv Nov 2014 #1
I should have included the pardon of Nixon as an independent option. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #4
What made Ford's pardon of Nixon so insidious and craven is that Ford failed to pardon KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #9
I wasn't around then, but a lot of people sincerely disagreed with pardoning draft resisters. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #11
I was 15 in 1974, so only starting to become politically aware and active. But I remember KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #12
Ford might have been something admirable. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #28
Well far be it from me to speak in defense of the oft-maligned Ford. But I will give him this: KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #31
He papered over the Constitutional crisis only to erupt again later True Blue Door Nov 2014 #32
Without no 2000 coup, there would be no Iraq war Stargleamer Nov 2014 #2
I voted "Other" for Nixon's 1968 footsie with Thieu (via Claire Chennault) that KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #3
I voted for other before I saw your reply... catnhatnh Nov 2014 #5
Yeah, we stll haven't kicked the Vietnam Syndrome, George H.W. Bush's words to the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #8
Damn, I forgot about that one! True Blue Door Nov 2014 #6
No worries. One can make an argument that without the Vietnam War, there KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #7
I was going ask for this addition before reading your post! bullwinkle428 Nov 2014 #16
Yes, Nixon's treasonous actions to keep the Vietnam War going. It killed hundreds of thousands. Stuart G Nov 2014 #24
The Iraq War had a lower body count, but its conspiracies were more egregious. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #29
Technical point: South Vietnam was not an 'allied sovereign state,' at least not by the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #33
Ah, okay. I am not as well versed in that period and place. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #34
This is a great thread that should go viral elsewhere besides here. What a KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #10
Other: Starting the DLC/Third Way, and infiltrating the Democratic party with it. Zorra Nov 2014 #13
I suspect that there is a basketball-sized grain of truth hifiguy Nov 2014 #21
The disturbing meta-question is why does a party hifiguy Nov 2014 #14
That, my friend, is one hell of a sad truth, eh? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #17
Exactly. moondust Nov 2014 #22
To paraphrase Lord Acton hifiguy Nov 2014 #23
Reagan's inaction on AIDS while it became a massive global pandemic. Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #15
OMG, I've turned from rage to tears with just one short post by you. And now KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #18
No shit...And rightwing assholes want to name their new country after the prick randys1 Nov 2014 #27
It does make some sense to name it after Reagan. LiberalElite Nov 2014 #35
Emphasizing "Treason"-I think October Surprise Really Fits Definition Best Stallion Nov 2014 #19
You want just ONE????? Old Nick Nov 2014 #20
I went with the Business Plot. HubertHeaver Nov 2014 #25
It might not have been a better world. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #30
I said a different world. HubertHeaver Nov 2014 #37
When Reagan's handlers prevented the hostage takers from releasing the hostages randys1 Nov 2014 #26
The Y2K sElection. lpbk2713 Nov 2014 #36
Voting for the Turtle. L0oniX Nov 2014 #38
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