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50. Democrats in general still don't get it: Obama = victory.

Fri Nov 7, 2014, 12:39 PM

Nov 2014

And apparently some folks here on DU don't get it either, judging by some of the delusional ODS posts trying to blame him for the election loss.

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Only ONE Senate Candidate Campaigned With Obama &... [View all] kpete Nov 2014 OP

Lesson learned? MoonRiver Nov 2014 #1

That's because there is no lesson to learn there FBaggins Nov 2014 #2

Are you kidding don't you realize anecdotal evidence is always better than logic? HERVEPA Nov 2014 #3

I'm sure this is how the tea party souded a few years ago FBaggins Nov 2014 #6

Maybe the lesson is biglib63 Nov 2014 #7

Welcome to DU! cilla4progress Nov 2014 #39

Grimes should have said vlyons Nov 2014 #44

+1 Arkansas lost (finally) two DINOS Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Nov 2014 #55

After Ross bragged (on a commercial) that he voted against Obamacare... Blanks Nov 2014 #78

how dare you insult weasels! vlyons Nov 2014 #134

I dare say that any candidate with a set of weasels is not likely to win. Thor_MN Nov 2014 #140

You at least have to make the D stand for something more than A Simple Game Nov 2014 #54

^^^^^ marions ghost Nov 2014 #77

+1000 blackspade Nov 2014 #119

But it turned out, those races weren't close at all, except for HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #11

And that worked out so well for them. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #14

Missing from that claim is any evidence that it would have been better FBaggins Nov 2014 #25

Well the results could not have been worse. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #38

Maybe Obama is NOT the only Democrat in the world hfojvt Nov 2014 #40

She made a horrible mistake and lost, imo, because of it. MoonRiver Nov 2014 #46

neither do I hfojvt Nov 2014 #49

The fact that PO is a DINO... ReRe Nov 2014 #114

Exactly! cilla4progress Nov 2014 #41

yeah sure, Grimes lost 56% to 41% hfojvt Nov 2014 #51

Yep. cilla4progress Nov 2014 #60

Her strategy was based on coal country's anger towards Obama JonLP24 Nov 2014 #101

Of course it could have been worse.n/t FBaggins Nov 2014 #73

A different strategy... ReRe Nov 2014 #112

Yes, but the base was not inspired to vote for candidates trashing their own President. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #57

And there's no evidence of that FBaggins Nov 2014 #72

Well, there is this: Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #74

Rick Berman, whose strategy is/was... ReRe Nov 2014 #113

You haven't seen that before? FBaggins Nov 2014 #118

Your comment makes no sense here. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #124

Then you missed the point FBaggins Nov 2014 #125

before the election maybe, but not after. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #126

It's *always* before an election FBaggins Nov 2014 #128

You're assuming only Republican-lite candidates can win in moderate districts. Qutzupalotl Nov 2014 #131

Other factors in NC marions ghost Nov 2014 #79

Not convinced "all politics are local" still applies lexington filly Nov 2014 #98

clintons would be the drag PatrynXX Nov 2014 #20

Lol... and there's the problem with this line of argument FBaggins Nov 2014 #29

yeah I don't get the line of reasoning hfojvt Nov 2014 #42

Given how most of the world acts based on quotes that are thousands of years old Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #61

Truman was speaking in a day hfojvt Nov 2014 #70

There were a lot of TV ads with B. Clinton as well. Your point is very good one. spooky3 Nov 2014 #90

Ask Al Gore. zonkers Nov 2014 #32

That's what I was thinking. deurbano Nov 2014 #52

The Regpig in Michigan Wabbajack_ Nov 2014 #37

Is that true? navarth Nov 2014 #84

Probably not Dopers_Greed Nov 2014 #58

Funny that.. Thanks for the Graphic, kpete.. I mentioned Gary Peters in a post earlier as one who Cha Nov 2014 #4

Durbin in IL lunasun Nov 2014 #21

We had a good chance at getting rid of McConnell, but Grimes gave the middle finger to her base. B Calm Nov 2014 #5

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #12

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #17

She was never going to win Kentucky Calista241 Nov 2014 #99

She lost because she ran as a right-wing gun totin conservative who never voted for Obama. B Calm Nov 2014 #116

That's one idea MFrohike Nov 2014 #122

She lost by 20 points because she ran as an Obama hating republican! B Calm Nov 2014 #135

Ok MFrohike Nov 2014 #137

Please explain to me how she was going to win over the racist white voters B Calm Nov 2014 #141

You're a hoot MFrohike Nov 2014 #142

. B Calm Nov 2014 #144

! MFrohike Nov 2014 #149

K&R ReRe Nov 2014 #8

yep. BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2014 #9

She not only let her state down... ReRe Nov 2014 #15

What does Grimes defeat for Senate have to do with KyNect onenote Nov 2014 #83

How does her defeat affect KyNect/ACA? ReRe Nov 2014 #87

Your passion is admirable. But you don't make a lot of sense onenote Nov 2014 #103

Thank you for your opinion... ReRe Nov 2014 #105

You're opinion might carry some more weight if was backed up by any facts onenote Nov 2014 #106

Do YOU live in KY? ReRe Nov 2014 #110

I don't. But I have a personal dislike for McConnell too. onenote Nov 2014 #121

Yep. HoosierRadical Nov 2014 #13

Agreed LondonReign2 Nov 2014 #28

I agree (in theory) with what you are saying. dotymed Nov 2014 #68

Like Dukakis and the Tank... SomethingFishy Nov 2014 #123

Gawd, I miss Molly Ivans. n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #130

hem allan01 Nov 2014 #10

Who gave who 2 stunning victories? n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #16

Obama gave us two stunning victories in 2008 and 2012 by winning a few Red states. ieoeja Nov 2014 #22

Uhhhh... ReRe Nov 2014 #69

This. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #109

Oh get this... TRoN33 Nov 2014 #18

He wasn't a "Democrat" candidate, he was a Democrat-IC candidate!!!!! George II Nov 2014 #24

Thank you for pointing out the Limbaughism. FarPoint Nov 2014 #127

It's actually a McCarthyism, but it was also used as far back as the 1930s. It's like nails... George II Nov 2014 #133

It makes me cringe too.. FarPoint Nov 2014 #138

Shazam! Old Nick Nov 2014 #19

Michelle AND Barack Obama were in Connecticut last month.... George II Nov 2014 #23

"By the way, Christie was in Connecticut five times....hahahaha!!" Brwawawaaaaa Christie was Cha Nov 2014 #63

I actually think that Connecticut is the bluest of all the states (or close to it)... George II Nov 2014 #75

Good on Conn, George! Blue Hawaii.. I didn't realize our gov race was this close.. Cha Nov 2014 #92

Nice - the RGA dumped tens of millions in states around the country..... George II Nov 2014 #96

I know that is odd.. Was Conn ready to get rid of the last gop when Dan Malloy came along? Cha Nov 2014 #97

The last republican governer decided not to run again....it was a very strange turn of events.... George II Nov 2014 #100

Yeah, you'd think Connecticut would be at least weary of snake oil, er I mean republicons as their Cha Nov 2014 #107

This Meme..... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #26

Can your response fit onto an Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #27

I wish... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #33

Of course he ran a great campaign and he didn't run away from the President or Obamacare. Cha Nov 2014 #64

No, it did not hurt however.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #80

Michigan also has not forgotten what Obama did for Detroit. Barack_America Nov 2014 #104

Oh, yeah! How nice.. those who appreciate! Mahalo, B_A Cha Nov 2014 #108

What do you mean by a "split ticket" state? George II Nov 2014 #136

Do you know what SPLITTING a BALLOT LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #150

Udall in Colorado belongs right up there with Grimes when it comes to stupid and cowardly. world wide wally Nov 2014 #30

Oh wow! Sad pathetic.. thanks for that, www.. Damn! Who's bright idea was that? Can Cha Nov 2014 #65

But isn't Obama a 3rd way, DLC, Republican-lite? JoePhilly Nov 2014 #31

Umm.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #35

What's a Progressive Moderate? JoePhilly Nov 2014 #36

Joe PHILLY.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #56

Agree completely. JoePhilly Nov 2014 #59

Got it....and yes.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #81

On the other hand... ReRe Nov 2014 #111

On the Other Hand.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #120

I'm sorry... ReRe Nov 2014 #129

No Re Re LovingA2andMI Nov 2014 #132

maybe Obama didn't want to be seen with a bunch of losers corkhead Nov 2014 #34

The only non-Dickless H. Chickenshit that ran. nt ChisolmTrailDem Nov 2014 #43

Michigan Democrat taking Koch brothers head on over Obamacare ProSense Nov 2014 #45

I like this guy.. thanks ProSense! Wow, a staunch defender of Obamacare and he won! Cha Nov 2014 #66

Republicans hit Senators voting for Obamacare as the big sin. ErikJ Nov 2014 #47

Despite a F rating from the NRA, he won big in a gun friendly state. Kaleva Nov 2014 #48

Both Stabenaw and Levin have F ratings from the NRA etherealtruth Nov 2014 #62

But Peter's did well in Michigan's red counties. Kaleva Nov 2014 #85

He did better than Schauer did etherealtruth Nov 2014 #86

Yes, Terry Lynn Land was a bad candidate. Kaleva Nov 2014 #89

That boggles the mind and I'm betting makes the NRAers queasy Cha Nov 2014 #67

Democrats in general still don't get it: Obama = victory. True Blue Door Nov 2014 #50

It is sad watching people blame Obama for the results on the 4th. Rex Nov 2014 #53

Gary Peters is not a friend of the gun voters (a large block in the state). Dawson Leery Nov 2014 #71

Infuriating the way they ran from him... randys1 Nov 2014 #76

all white people are racist Doctor_J Nov 2014 #102

We are losing because people dont care about midterms, not because one white guy on the internet randys1 Nov 2014 #117

Oregon is almost all white, just gave you one of your few Senate victories 4 Reps and a Governor Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #148

I commented on this on Twitter and... Harriety Nov 2014 #82

I can think of 3 dem incumbents that won marlene.elyse Nov 2014 #88

Grayson is a Rep, lots of Democratic Reps won. My Democratic Senator won by 20 points but Bluenorthwest Nov 2014 #146

Unrec for not saying who it is Reter Nov 2014 #91

"Unrec" haha.. We political heads keep up.. and there's the link provided in the OP.. thanks for Cha Nov 2014 #93

hehe... hopemountain Nov 2014 #94

Backatcha, hopemountain! Cha Nov 2014 #95

He was a very heavy favorite oberliner Nov 2014 #115

Early in the campaign, Land lead Peters in the polls. Kaleva Nov 2014 #139

That flipped in May/June oberliner Nov 2014 #143

But Peters was vocal about his support of Obama's policies long before that Kaleva Nov 2014 #145

Good point oberliner Nov 2014 #147