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catbyte

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29. It started going to hell when they moved the SS to Homeland Security.

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Tue Sep 30, 2014, 06:01 PM

Sep 2014

This has been a decade in the making. Huge, colossal mistake. It needs to be its own department again.

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The President is not safe. [View all] geek tragedy Sep 2014 OP

Unbelievable. femmocrat Sep 2014 #1

Not for this President. He must be favored by God and the universe that he is still with us con- kelliekat44 Sep 2014 #53

Well said. narnian60 Oct 2014 #132

Okay, this is getting ridiculous. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #2

ridiculous = worthy of ridicule. imo it's gone way past ridiculous. HereSince1628 Sep 2014 #24

+1,000 malaise Sep 2014 #95

seriously! Evergreen Emerald Oct 2014 #145

I so agree with you! cornball 24 Sep 2014 #31

it's like an offensive line laying down so the defense rurallib Sep 2014 #48

Wow. Again, this is more than negligence and/or incompetence. Tatiana Sep 2014 #3

Agreed Hutzpa Sep 2014 #10

Absolutely. silverweb Sep 2014 #14

Never attribute to Maliciousness what can easily be explained by stupidity. Xipe Totec Sep 2014 #26

Don't know about that saying... FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #30

By that criteria, they failed miserably Xipe Totec Sep 2014 #33

You can only say they failed if you know what they were trying to do FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #35

Are you joking? Surely you are Xipe Totec Sep 2014 #38

Several on THIS THREAD have suggested it may be a warning. FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #39

You're arguing the point, so make your case. Xipe Totec Sep 2014 #43

It's hard not to be stunned by the frequency of this type of mistake starting with earliest I recall proverbialwisdom Sep 2014 #70

the point is heaven05 Oct 2014 #142

So your premise is that the Secret Service is Evil AND Incompetent? Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #158

Stupidity is the easier target Hutzpa Sep 2014 #37

Occam's razor - People just isn't that smart. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #161

Well Hutzpa Oct 2014 #163

People are stupid if they're claiming the Secret Service wants the President dead Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #164

and you are? heaven05 Oct 2014 #165

I aren't too. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #166

Congress? get the red out Oct 2014 #131

and the thing with these cases is that they don't even involve any huge plan JI7 Sep 2014 #4

presidenting while black nt msongs Sep 2014 #5

ding ding 1dogleft Sep 2014 #17

Exactly!!!! cornball 24 Sep 2014 #32

Truth LoisB Sep 2014 #56

It surely is partly that, but the fact that he is trying his best to represent the regular person LawDeeDah Sep 2014 #115

nothing but applause JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #152

I didn't think it was this bad. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #6

POTUS is not safe with the USSS...WTF... Historic NY Sep 2014 #7

I feel for his daughters Sasha and Malia Cali_Democrat Sep 2014 #8

Good point, they're at risk as well flamingdem Sep 2014 #13

And, unfortunately, someone armed with only a knife can be horrifyingly lethal calimary Sep 2014 #22

She has to go though she should stay on in some role for the best flamingdem Sep 2014 #27

But with her track record, I wouldn't want her in a supervisory position of any sort calimary Sep 2014 #41

Why should she? Here's the reason why security wasn't increased, but decreased: freshwest Sep 2014 #92

I hope they were never told. n/t Iwillnevergiveup Sep 2014 #28

Malia WAS home with grandma when WH shooter shot the WH 9 times a while ago. catbyte Sep 2014 #58

It is mighty suspicious.. this just keeps happening over and over and over again Peacetrain Sep 2014 #9

Wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't all stacked up recently. MohRokTah Sep 2014 #25

Especially when there were agents on scene who spoke of gunfire, and calimary Sep 2014 #52

Bad bad bad blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #11

Maybe we can understand why he is afraid to fire Gen Clapper. His and his family's security is in rhett o rick Sep 2014 #12

Hence I've been puzzled by some of the decisions Hutzpa Sep 2014 #16

Makes you wonder... SalviaBlue Sep 2014 #21

what the fucking fuck. mopinko Sep 2014 #15

Whats the point of your other thread if you didn't know this? Hutzpa Sep 2014 #19

huh? mopinko Sep 2014 #77

Yes Hutzpa Oct 2014 #154

Kind of have to agree. They really keep dropping the ball. closeupready Sep 2014 #18

cant blame understaffing fot this Mosby Sep 2014 #20

How many teabaggers are in the SS? thecrow Sep 2014 #64

SS complicit in "security lapses" that could endanger the President? Too much of this stuff going on AlinPA Sep 2014 #23

It started going to hell when they moved the SS to Homeland Security. catbyte Sep 2014 #29

It was in treasury before, no? nt geek tragedy Sep 2014 #36

Technically, but it really only answered to itself. Once HS swallowed it up, it went downhill. catbyte Sep 2014 #54

Yet another reeking pile of crap left behind by Bush-Cheney. nt Hekate Sep 2014 #47

Yessiree bob. catbyte Sep 2014 #55

And there you have the answer!!! These problems started with that change. 7962 Sep 2014 #73

this is what i read was the issue a good couple years ago. nt seabeyond Oct 2014 #159

K&R for EXPOSURE! ReRe Sep 2014 #34

No doubt they're negligent Gman Sep 2014 #40

Christ on a trampoline. Why do those stupid fucks still have jobs? riqster Sep 2014 #42

This is frightening. nt sheshe2 Sep 2014 #44

I'm glad that contractor was fired on the spot. The Secret Service officer should have been too. n SunSeeker Sep 2014 #45

I feel nauseous Hekate Sep 2014 #46

Thank you for saying this. That is all. Raine1967 Sep 2014 #62

I am with you Hekate. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #81

Recently the President's photos show a man whose skin looks gray. No wonder, she. nt Hekate Sep 2014 #106

My friend yesterday asked had I watched the 60 minutes interview the other night. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #108

yes, it is unfathomable.... Tumbulu Sep 2014 #111

+1000 heaven05 Oct 2014 #146

WTF is going on here? MerryBlooms Sep 2014 #49

The Secret Service cannot and should not stop someone from taping the president. nt Logical Sep 2014 #50

If they are a security officer on watch... defacto7 Sep 2014 #74

100% not true in a public place! Sorry! nt Logical Sep 2014 #75

If you are right... defacto7 Sep 2014 #79

Taping the president is a security threat? Really? Nt Logical Sep 2014 #80

Straw anyone? defacto7 Sep 2014 #84

what????? heaven05 Oct 2014 #149

Obama's in an elevator, with an uncleared, armed man, the SS doesn't know he has a gun... SidDithers Sep 2014 #85

What you said Hekate Sep 2014 #86

No, I get the other part. nt Logical Sep 2014 #98

good point!!!!!! Tumbulu Sep 2014 #112

I am appalled with your overwhelming lack of concern sheshe2 Sep 2014 #117

I bet the problems lie between the rank and file and the director. I believe middle and upper mulsh Sep 2014 #51

good points. jeeeezus, this is seriously ungood. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2014 #59

Good place to begin- I agree Tumbulu Sep 2014 #114

The sad fact is DonCoquixote Sep 2014 #57

No leftist would celebrate the failure of the Secret Service. blackspade Sep 2014 #89

This is outrageous! colorado_ufo Sep 2014 #60

All they have to say is, "Stand aside, we'll take it from here." Don't let any stranger on. NBachers Sep 2014 #82

This shit is getting more outrageous by the day theHandpuppet Sep 2014 #61

I am surprised harm hasn't come to President Obama Hulk Sep 2014 #63

Is this incompetance or is it intentional? If it's the former that's bad enough, totodeinhere Sep 2014 #65

Saw this on the news mcar Sep 2014 #66

It's almost as if they don't give a fuck about what happens to him graywarrior Sep 2014 #67

What is going on??? C Moon Sep 2014 #68

After an LA Kings hockey game, I was in an LibDemAlways Sep 2014 #69

Maybe Running Tests Checking on Rank and File Reactions? eom LarryNM Sep 2014 #71

When Obama was elected, SmittynMo Sep 2014 #72

The times are ripe for a coup. defacto7 Sep 2014 #76

Another sign that we've become a banana repuplic. CentralMass Sep 2014 #78

Time to move the secret service back under the control of the treasury dept. sobenji Sep 2014 #83

We personally know someone who was exceptionally high in the Secret Service, phylny Sep 2014 #87

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #88

This is the RW meme. Who do we want protecting him, Blackwater's newest incarnation? freshwest Sep 2014 #90

This ain't budgetary--it's people not doing their damn jobs geek tragedy Sep 2014 #96

You want every single person in every single building under total survelliance? This came out after. freshwest Sep 2014 #105

I'm saying no one--armed or otherwise--should be riding geek tragedy Sep 2014 #113

No shit!!! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #123

This Surprises RobinA Oct 2014 #136

so let me get this straight jberryhill Oct 2014 #141

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ defunding with a purpose flamingdem Sep 2014 #100

exactly my first thought, underfunded Tumbulu Sep 2014 #118

That is what the facts show, despite this diversion in ther month prior to November. freshwest Sep 2014 #120

You do such a good job writing about this Tumbulu Oct 2014 #162

Ever since the Sahalis waltzed into the state dinner uninvited, Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #91

Yup. Major Hogwash Sep 2014 #110

I'm left bewildered by the fact that Bush AND Cheney always had a small army of security Rex Sep 2014 #93

Gawd damn, Jay Z and Beyonce have more security guards around them than this! Major Hogwash Oct 2014 #122

These Secret Service Agents guarding the President and his Family need to go back Cha Sep 2014 #94

Why was anyone they didn't know on there at all. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #99

I know.. Just saw this on another site.. Not that I understand what this has to do with the Cha Sep 2014 #104

From your link. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #107

Exactly, she.. just what I thought when I read.. Cha Sep 2014 #109

I watched the questioning of the Secret Service by Issa- KrazyinKS Sep 2014 #97

Wow. Unbelievable. FlatStanley Sep 2014 #101

Granted, the SS has had to work triple overtime since we elected a black president, but dang! DamnYankeeInHouston Sep 2014 #102

GOPers only concern is the "White House" not Pres O nor Iliyah Sep 2014 #103

As a parent myself, HeiressofBickworth Sep 2014 #116

so.....what else haven't we heard about? what's the next shoe to drop? spanone Sep 2014 #119

That's the part that makes me most uneasy. Union Scribe Oct 2014 #127

Thanks for context, freshwest. I'm with you. I see it as a variation of protection rackets as old ancianita Oct 2014 #121

kick spanone Oct 2014 #124

People must resign - or be fired - immediately! Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #125

The kind of housecleaning the Secret Service needs... BobTheSubgenius Oct 2014 #126

Couldn't the agents be rotated? Shemp Howard Oct 2014 #129

Yes, they could. They need to be totally replaced and separated from Homeland Security. ancianita Oct 2014 #134

I Could Be Wrong RobinA Oct 2014 #138

This is a true WTF moment. Enthusiast Oct 2014 #128

This in itself should have causes a massive department wide investigation. Kablooie Oct 2014 #130

Do you have a link to a non RW site? Savannahmann Oct 2014 #133

Washington Post is a mainstream newspaper. geek tragedy Oct 2014 #135

This may sound overly judgemental rtracey Oct 2014 #137

Every generation has fucked everyone over. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #156

what? heaven05 Oct 2014 #139

I hope I'm wrong...but MynameisBlarney Oct 2014 #140

agreed! Larry66 Oct 2014 #144

Yup dynasaw Oct 2014 #147

ponder this Larry66 Oct 2014 #143

Most of us here are beside ourselves with worry! LawDeeDah Oct 2014 #148

The President is a black Democrat, and most cops are white conservative Republican men. Zorra Oct 2014 #150

Why are there armed security contractors at the CDC in the first place? Rose Siding Oct 2014 #151

It's either a veiled threat or establishing a norm to lower our expectations and skepticism to GoneFishin Oct 2014 #153

My first thought was INdemo Oct 2014 #155

This doesn't seem like a funding thing to me. ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #157

I'm beginning to think The Rude Pundit got it right, yesterday: Paladin Oct 2014 #160